December 2006 - Stairgates and cupboard locks at the ready!

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Couldn't think of anything contraversial!

Though thanks, AQ

And the company that delivered it was very efficient at communicating re delivery, the blokes put it up in 20 minutes (we paid the extra to have it done, flatpacks being DH's idea of a total nightmare) and its nice and solid.

I sometimes contemplate sleeping in it, when nights are bad in the non-play house

The weblink already had http in it, you didn't need to add http again, that was the problem. DP & I are both in it, it's a nerdy house! Have just asked him what his zombie plan is, he came straight back with 'there's a bottle of holy water in the loft' !

DS1 cried today when I said I didn't think we could afford a playhouse. We were going to buy them one, but twins kind of changed our spending plans! I felt awful!

both in IT, fgs aq must go to bed. I think you should mention need for holy water in ur loft to dh, eli btw, he may not be aware.

That's lovely but too grand and expensive for us Will have a look on e-bay ... sob!

AQ holy water, excellent idea. Thanks for explaining, am seeing double need to sleep almost as much as you - did wonder about the double http but didn't have energy to re-try

Castles sorry, admit we were utterly shocked at prices of playhouses, did find a few for less, but not many. E-bay great idea though, might that help for your ds1, AQ?? Wish I'd thought of it. Have to say, though, its the best investment we've made dd-wise, keeps them both out of trouble and occupied for hours, daily, for minimal work.

Does take up half our garden, though, garden being small

Hello, laptop is playing up - dcs have broken power connector thingummybob so having to use dh's work one when he's not on it.

Have caught up with what I've missed but can't remember any of it.........sorry .

DS2 is up to his old non-sleeping tricks. He's up at least 3 times every night but has noe decided that he doesn't like his cot so will not be put down awake. If I do manage to get him in awake then I have to stay in the roomm until he's asleep or he gets absolutely hysterical in seconds. Anyone like to hazard a guess as to what that's all about?!

He seems to be teething on and off - still no sign of any teeth breaking through though and dosing him up on paracetamol, andesol and Nelson's powders makes no obvious difference.

Bleurgh, hate sleep deprivation.

Dh is off at the Grand Prix this weekend - I would be jealous but sitting about in the rain watching cars go round and round and round isn't my idea of fun. I am very of the uninterrupted night's sleep he'll be getting in a hotel though.

Indith, how long til the wedding? I haven't had my invite yet .

DD also teething - back teeth at the top and molars at the bottom. Had a terrible couple of nights with her and she hasn't eaten anything at all today and only a couple of spoonfuls of jelly last night. Sounds like they are all teething at the same time. Hope you have a good night Oli and Indith... think we'll be up a few times too so will think of you both.

think that should have been canines at the bottom?? Aren't molars back teeth??? Would you believe I am the daughter of a dentist?

I haven't a clue about tooth names either!

I met a lady who was in the bed next to me when I had dd1. I hadn't seen her or her ds since they were about 3 mo. She works in the same field as my dh, though not in the same office. small world,eh?

Hi guys, We're teething here,too. Two upper molars have come through before the canines and his poo was really runny yesterday and today which makes me think we'll have a couple more coming in. He's been nursing like crazy and I'm feeling sore for the first time in well over a year. I really want to stop bfing but he's really insistent and I feel like I don't have the energy to battle over it right now. Getting the "look" from dh and my parents tho...

Jabber we have bottom molars here and no canines. Think it is common for canines to be last.... and worst. Only two wake-ups last night and she slept until 9am, so can't complain too much.

I've got to start thinking about what I will do about feeding the next one. Didn't bf DD at all because of my arthritis medication - I couldn't be weaned off it in time for the birth and the consultant thought I would have a big flare up after the birth, which never happened fortunately. At the moment I'm not taking anything so could bf the next one in theory - as long as I don't have a flare up after the birth. Am worried about the nights though - am sore and stiff in the night, and struggle to get to DDs room, am not sure how I'd cope with feeding a newborn without DHs help. Would like to bf though. Midwife has suggested mixed feeding but that sounds like the road to ruin to me.

Nice to meet you Lennied

Sorry about your dilemmas over bf. Can you express? It's hard work and I gave up with DD2 because I am a lazy slattern but you could do it for a bit and get DH to give at night. Just do what works best for you and your LO. I gave up bf DD1 after 4 weeks sadly (long story) and she seems alright on it again!

Olihan ((hugs)) sounds like teething. Bloody hell they are all at it. DD2 too. Constant snotty nose which is lovely esp when she wipes it on my clothes

Sorry slight diversion (ramblings due to coming off anxiety meds incase anyone is wondering!!): Olihan aren't babies meant to suffer anxiety separation aged 18/19 months?? Remember all mine going through it. DD2 is certainly going through it during day at mo.

Small world indeed Margo. I bump into people from the past all the time and have no recollection of who they are

Jabber, we had molars before canines too. DD got 2 top canines last week which explains why she's been so miserable lately

We have molars but no canines, and drooling/grumping is on/off with no apparent change in the tooth dept

Poor teething LOs, as if separation anxiety (yes, we have that too) wasn't enough at this age

Short moan: dd1 had her 'sports day' this morning, all very nice until the teachers put out too few hats for the kids to pick up in the 'pick up a hat race'. dd ended up without one, in tears, and was then made to finish the race holding teacher's hand with a broken plastic cone thing on her head in lieu of a hat - she cried harder and harder and got dragged to the finish line, clearly angry and humiliated. I imagine the teacher meant well, but

feel better now. And dd is fine, it was just me still growling.

So with all the teething causing unsettled sleep I won't mention that though ds is teething like mad he still sleeping through until at least 8.30 then

Lennied how do you feel about co-sleeping? Or a sidecar cot/cosleeper cot so that you don't have to move at night. I do know people who have mix fed successfully but you do have to work hard at it and generally only start mix feeding once your own supply is pretty well established.

Poor dd Eli, that is very thoughtless of the school.

Oli it is 29th August! So close now and still half a million things to do!

Eli, I don't know what to say! Us teachers can be cruel folk at times, can't we. If its any consolation I very much doubt the teacher will ever forget to put out enough hats again, and will probably be as horrified about the whole incident as you are. I caused floods of tears once when I suggested a little boy should paint his sky purple after the blue paint got tipped all over the table and there was none left for him to use. He was fine about it until my suggestion at which point he declared "But... skies... aren't purple..." I still feel bad about it 4 years later.

I've no idea what teeth ds2 has, can't get in there to check! Not sure if I know diff. b/t molar & canine.

Lennied, mixed feeding can work fine (or expressing as castles suggests) but usually not straight from birth I think (or have been advised). But you do run the risk of losing supply altogether, depends how much you want to bf this time. I did find bf 'easier' in many ways having a ds already to deal with as I could do that with one hand/hands-free, using a sling which can't be done with bottle! Although of course the early days a lot, lot harder!

Is dc2 going to sleep in your room in which case a cot right next to you so you didn't have to move much might help? Are there more 'natural' alternatives you could take during pg/bf which could help with arthritis?

Bit of a shock today, had a scan and one twin has too much water in the sac so pre-term labour risk is up. Consultant ordered me to leave work today, I had planned to stay on another month but she was very clear that I should rest as much as poss. Which I haven't been, really, trying to get too much done and wearing myself out a bit. Feel and and .

Indith, am pleased DS is still sleeping, although you deserve lots of these...

DD co-slept (is that the right past tense for co-sleeping??) most nights from when she was about 6 weeks until 7 months. We missed her like crazy when she went in her own cot . However, DH used to get massive anxiety attacks over it, he would wake up convinced he had rolled on her or suffocated her or something. He'd do really odd stuff like drag the bedding off the bed while still asleep and start hunting through it looking for her. He would also grab my legs quite a lot and start shouting that she was under the bedding. It was actually worse when she was in her cot, when she was in the bed I think he would just reach over and know she was safe. It took him about 6 months to get over it, and I'm not sure I could go through that again.

AQ - hope you are resting already. Hope you are ok.

Thanks for all the advice on feeding. I think I'll have to have a good talk to DH about it all and we'll have to come up with a plan. Have tried herbal remedies and homeopathy without any success in the past, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't work in the future. Acupucture helps when it is really bad. Will have to make a plan.

Hope you are following Dr's orders AQ!

Show your dh a few links to a sidecar system? Feeding benefit of co-sleeping with the baby still being in their own space that you can't accidently roll into. We are planning on one with this baby, ds co-slept a lot and it was fab, took a fair while for dp to realise the benefits though! He used to spend hours pacing the floor with ds until giving in to me at 3 or 4am, whereupon we were all asleep in no time. I think this time he is even more keen to co-sleep than I am! The co-sleeper cot seems like a good way for us, retain our own bedspace and don't have to worry about ds feeling evicted if there is no space for him in our bed.

Hope you are ok AQ ((hugs)) TAKE IT EASY

((AQ)) you had no reason to do things any other way than you have been, so drop the ! I think its always shocking when scans say anything other than 'alls well', and I hope yo'ure ok, have your feet up, and are being nice to yourself....

LenniEd, I think yo'ure right - teacher was mortified, unfortunately I think thats why she then needed to drag dd to the finish line regardless, when all she needed was a good yell! Maybe the teacher needed one too

Hmmm, like the look of those Indith. Also like the look of those Amby Natures Nest things too - I know someone who had one and her baby sleeps like an angel. If only they came with a guarantee

AQ, definitely give yourself a break. I can't imagine carrying two and having two more at home. Put up your feet and start eating bonbons

Lennied, we had a co-sleeper crib with both babies and loved it. Tried an Amby bed with ds2 with limited success. But then, my boys just aren't good sleepers anyway it seems.

thanks, all. I just feel like life's out of my control & thought that dt's could arrive now scaring hell out of me! Will stop overdoing it now.

Co-sleeper cribs look fab, I so wanted one for ds2 (or an ambys). But no way can I fit two babies in our bedroom in one of those things, so I guess I'll put a put-up bed in their room. Haven't thought about it!