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Lets start again girls!

Hi, just wanted to post, let you know how it went, won't post too much as this is supposed to be a HAPPY thread, and I feel far from that. Apparently the sac was only just visible on the scan, which means I am just 5 weeks, so a week off what my dates gave me (which means the MAP was taken before rather than after). I have to have another scan in 2 weeks as I'm so early, and abortion is booked for 14th Oct. I have counselling booked for a fortnight too. Did originally have it for next Tuesday, but was too much of a mess to realise that that's ds1's birthday until I noticed it on the calendar!

Hey Panda,

Well, these things happen for a reason and i truly, truly believe that. I don't know what else to say. Are you working at the moment? I think some quiet time for you should be on the cards, i don't mean a night out or anything, just some time to think about you and reflect. (something i do or rather did when in doubt that helps so give that advice generally). Anyhow, me and the kids are full of the cold and i should get to bed before one of them needs me. DH probably back in another 10 days....

hope ur appt went well nova

Evening

Panda I'm with CHacha on this one, shes right about things happening for a reason. You know where I am if you need anything

Nova hope your appointment went ok today. Saw something that I thought might interest you today. There is a Burlesque Ball in aid of Macmillan Cancer in Hove on 6th November. Am thinking of trying to persuade dh to take me

Have just been speaking to AmI and O is doing fabulously at nursery, she's really pleased.

T went in without tears for the first time today - yippee

Hope everyone else is well Beks

Just a quickie for Chacha

I was about to post this on ffp but then thought to ask you. I've got a gorgeous coat, Little Rocha, brown wax with fleece lining and furry hood which O has just grown out of. It's age 12- 24 months, but almost fits him now so is quite big. If you could use it I'd be happy to send it. I'm quite attached to it and would love to see it have a good home. There's a couple of pictures of him in it on my profile.

Wow Panda, it must be so hard having to wait until 14th . Don't worry about being sad on here, we're here for all sorts not just happy things.

Well, I have my surgery booked in for 16th oct, which is a bit of a shame as I had tickets to see the Miss Pole UK competition for that night. It looks like my cyst has been caused by my mirena coil. My consultant said I can either leave it in and hope it doesn't happen again (although the chances are increased), take it out (not really an option as it was my last contraceptive resort), or he can steralize me during the op to remove the cyst (DH won't even entertain this idea). So, it looks like option one, although I don't really fancy going through all this hoo ha again.

Yay for no tears at nursery Btks. Noo still has them sometimes even though she's been going to the same place for nearly two years. Sometimes she evens tells me she's going to cry that day, and when I pick her up she delights in telling me that she cried.

Hi all, am not in work today, was sent packing to the doctors by my boss. Basically I'm a complete mess, I want it over. Have to go back to see my GP tomorrow morning, she's really worried about me, trying to get it brought forward but with no real joy, mental health team can't help. There is a thread on the mental health section.

I'll be keeping fingers crossed for you Nova that this is a one off with the coil. It looks like I'll be having a coil fitted (makes you sound like a car!), as there's no way I can trust condoms alone anymore, and the coil is my only other option too.

Hi girls,

Nova, will you be having a laparascopy then? Good that your appt is not too far off, when is Noo's birthday - i'm sure October just can't remember when.

Panda - How are you feeling tonight?

Ami - Yup, will take you up on that. Sounds lovely Thank you for thinking of us.

Am off to bed, both DS's were up from 3am to 6am last night, can you believe it? DS2 woke DS1 up talking nonsense and then the two of them demanded to go downstairs so succumbed for some peace and quiet but it turned into a bit of a toddler party with both trashing the room! Problems i'm having at the moment are:

• DS1 pushing/shoving and biting DS2, sometimes for no apparent reason but often when DS2 is getting 'in his face' iyswim.
• DS2 trashing any room that he enters. He throws everything on the floor, toy boxes get emptied etc.. one after the other, if he finds even just a blanket on the sofa it has to go on the floor..
• DS2 waking at ridiculous hours calling me and not going back to sleep for hours. Thought he might be hungry/thirsty so made sure he had a good supper etc.. not working.
• DS2 swiping glasses off my face, biting me, pinching me, laughing, body slamming me, also hugs, kisses and is v.sweet.

Is this all normal toddler behaviour?!?

Shattered, sorry for ramble x

ooops forgot something.... i want a really big bag that will cater for all 3 kids stuff. Any practical suggestions please?

Should really stop looking at Lin & Leo bags....

BB - how are you?

Chacha, the behaviour you're describing could so easily be my two. They do exactly the same, so I guess it's just normal, and I guess more so for two that are so close together. The only thing I don't have is the night waking, but then mine are still in seperate rooms (not been brave enough to attempt sharing yet for that very reason). Not sure what to suggest really, apart from stick to the discipline structure you want them to follow and let the rest of it go.

As for big bags, I've actually worked the other way round and reduced the amount of stuff I carry around. For noo I carry a pair of trousers and pants rolled up small and tied in a nappy sack, and an emergency nappy, again rolled up small and tied in a nappy sack. For miniman I carry a nappy rolled up small and tied in a nappy sack. I then add a packet of wet wipes, small packet of tissues and a muslin. For drinks I have one or two tropicana go/or small bottle of water, and usually some fruit puree in resealable pouches and organix crisps.

HTH?

Hey Nova, glad to hear this is not an isolated case! This afternoon they were building a spaceship that involved trashing the room once again - this time by taking all my baskets off the basket shelves, contents and all over the floor. I know it's a bit trivial in the big scheme of things but it really annoys me and i have to bite my tongue and not freak out. I can't move anything else or we will simply be living inside 4 walls and nothing else! Is only DS2 that instigates this, DS1 follows.
As it stands, i have everything boxed including toys and DS1 will either go and get his preferred box or ask me for one (usually the railtracks and trains) but DS2 just climbs up on things and throws them all down on floor - suppose it's just his age but i am soooooo sick of mess everywhere. When he comes out of the bath it is a strict routine of hairdry, pj's, story and bed - while i'm doing DS1 he will find ANYTHING he can get his hands on and throw downstairs/hide/rip/break and you can't tell him anything, he just laughs and runs away Oh and mealtimes - 'all done mummy' and bang goes plate/cutlery on floor - i have told him so many times, i even try to supervise every spoonful to ensure he doesn't do it but he thinks its great fun.
Sorry, think i am voicing all my todder worries -

I like your bag make up Nova - sounds good. Maybe i just take too much stuff around with me, i notice that when we're in the car i take much less, it's when i'm out and about alone with them that i seem to be overloaded - i never use half of what is in the bag TBH.

Well, i've separated them for 2 nights now. DS2 didn't wake up last night and fingers crossed for tonight...maybe he's feeling a bit insecure or something. I put him in my bed and a few times in the night he just came over for a cuddle or put his hand out to check i was there and went straight back to sleep. Didn't wake even when baby was grumbling over dirty nappy. Have also cut out amount of juice their drinking even though it was only Rocks Organic stuff - i'm sure it has an affect on their appetites.

Well i hope everyone is well looking fwd to weekend. Sorry for the extra long ramble. Will try and get to bed at a decent hour, have been falling asleep fully dressed in their bed as of late x

ChaCha, you could also be describing ds2 here. Just wilfully destructive, making a mess for the sake of making a mess. Violent towards ds1 and myself. Since having the nursery nrse working with me, he has inproved a lot, but it's hard being so tough wth him, especially at a time when you just want to feel sorry for yourself, so I'm ashamed to say I have lapsed quite a lot recently.

ds1's birthday party today. I'm taking the easy way out and having it at a soft play centre. Bloody expensive though. It's £8.50 per head , thankfully I'm not paying for it, xp is. Well it's about time he paid for something seeing as I've had £80 maintenance from him since May, and he's cleared out the joint account that I've been trying to get him to close.

Hello all - only really quick from me, as am having another v busy weekend!
Just wanted to say - hugs and strength to you Panda - it must be hard and my heart goes out to you - feel free to let it all out on here hon, that's what we are here for.
Nova - fingers crossed this is a one off, and good luck for Oct (I know it's ages away, but have brain like mush at the mo!).
Chacha - T goes through days of non-stop impishness, but on the whole he is good as gold, tho it seems to be me and dh he plays up most for!!
I am soo exhausted at the moment - am in bed for 10pm most nights, and am feeling dreadfully queasy most of the time, tho thankfully not actually sick. Most of my clothes don't fit, which is a pain in the backside!
Have got midwife appt on 5th Oct (yes the date is right - it is a Sunday!).

Got to dash, as going out in 10 minutes!

Love to all
x

Lovely to hear from you Brownie - good as gold? Just you wait until you've got two on your hands .

Panda, I'm at a loss as to what to say, I'm a bit crap on the advice thang, but do feel free to come on here and let it all out if you need to. Sometimes it's easier to write it down .

Chacha, hang on in there, it sounds like our munchkins are just doing the job that all toddlers do - driving mummy mad! My mantra lately has been 'if it keeps them quiet, let them get on with it' and I deal with the consequences when I can be bothered! If noo goes quiet though I call out to her and the usual response is 'I'm not doing anything', which usually means she is!

Miniman being slower than noo at speaking, no real words yet, although I can make out his words for splash and cat. I'm not too worried though as noo's speach seemed to come in a tidal wave.

DH is finally coming around to the idea of me getting steralized during the cyst op, which I must say is a relief for me.

Went to Harrods today to buy noo a party dress for her birthday (we're taking her for afternoon tea at a posh hotel). I have warned DH that she probably won't want to wear it, but he doesn't believe me. I'm betting on lots of screaming come the 15th!

Have a lovely weekend y'all x

Evening girls

Brownie glad everything is going well and that bump isn't causing you too many problems

Panda have read your other thread and just don't know what to say hun, just hang on in there and don't you dare do anything stupid to yourself you're far to precious a person to do that. Whichever way you go with this decison and however life changing it is, you will come out of this the other side having made the right decison for you. This thread is for the good the bad ans the ugly that we go through in life and we're all here for you.

Chacha sounds like the boys are doing what toddlers do. Tom went through the destroy everything in his path stage but if you persevere with the NOing ds will soon get the message.

Nova your post about the dress made me smile, you know shes going out in the ballet outfit and pirate patch to the hotel

Can't believe we're nearly celebrating their 3rd b'days where has the time gone. Toms having a Power Ranger party for a dozen of his friends - I can't believe how mad he is on Power Rangers I'd never have let Ben watch them at 3 - oh how different we do things second time round

Tom is now going to nursery 3 afternoons a week and there are no tears - hooray!!!

But he has decided to hit the tantruming 3's a few weeks early. We've virtually sailed through the 2's without incident but I remember that the 3's were hell with Ben too.

He threw the most amazing wobbler today becasue he didn't want to go to the park. You'd have thought we were taking him to his execution the fuss he was making. He then went for it again in Tescos, don't you just love the people who stare at you like you're the worst mother on earth. Stange that they don't offer to help though isn't it

Am sitting typing this at my bestfriends house, whilst babysitting her two girls. I thought I was going to have crowbar my friend out the door. The baby is 4mths old and has been a dream and thankfully she's now tucked up in bed just like her big sister - hooray. Just need to keep them that way for another hour or so till they walk through the door and the evening will have been a great success

Hope everyone is enjoying the lovely weather this weekend, catch up again soon Beks

I don't care much for stares Btks, although once after I'd shouted at noo to stand still after she'd tipped the buggy over trying to get in it, a mother came over and said 'I'm glad I'm not the only one who shouts at their children'. I think around here (maybe everywhere) there is such a pressure to be the 'perfect' parent, it's all rice cakes and therapy speak. Sometimes a good old shout is very necessary!

Hi girls, good to hear from BB

Hope you've all had good weekends. I've been taking the boys out for lots of fresh air and they've been returning home ready for dinner, bath and bed. Organisation, deep breaths and lots of patience seem to be helping and Nova your mantra is quite right!

Also wondering BTKS where 3 years have gone - suppose looking at DS2 and DS3 and i have my own answer! Bought a wonderful close carrier and am enjoying the freedom of playing with the kids at the parks and shopping with almost free hands, best baby item bought i think. I don't know what's wrong with me but i have buying a little too much for DS3, DS2 had most of DS1's stuff but i've been buying things for DS1 that will barely last a minute - do you think it's something to do with possible last baby syndrome? I have the most overwhelming feelings for this baby - much stronger than with the others, am also wondering if this is something to do with being so much more relaxed with the third - he just fits in around us.

Well before i yap away will go and photo this bag of maternity stuff for ebay. Have to justify baby spending somehow!

Our Eid celebrations may be Tuesday or Wednesday - will try to log on before x

p.s. BTKS, thanks for the Tomy snugli carrier you sent me when with DS2, I no longer need it (was good when baby v.small but not for my back/shoulders as they grow). Woudl you like me to return it to you so that you can pass it on/sell it?

Love x

Hi girls

Chacha no its fine just sell it with your other stuff, i certainly have no intention of using it again

Hope everyone enjoyed the weekend, I'm having a 5 min break from cleaning, which I can do in peace as Tom has his girlfriend here to play, shes about 18mnths older and absolutely gorgeous

Panda hope you're ok?

Beks

Hiya,

Brownie, glad you're not feeling too bad, I'm with you on the tiredness though, have been having early nights most nights.

Enjoy the Eid celebrations ChaCha.

I too hate the stares & comments that you get when you have a child who's playing you up. Although I don't notice that at all where I'm living now, but definately did where I used to, especially at ds1's school.

I'm enjoying a Wispa now they're back for good. Much needed!

I've had a counselling appointment today. Load of $hite! Really was useless. Didn't start well as I went to the wrong place, but they didn't bother telling me that until I'd been sat there waiting for 45 minutes. I'd even been up and checked a few times, and they still kept saying, yeah, she'll be out to call you. Rarrrrr! SO of course, the lady has gone home as I hadn't turned up, but she did come back, and it really was pointless. She is quite obviously anti-abortion and was basically trying to talk me into having the baby. Didn't take any notice of the fact that I've become suicidal becasue of the wait and that I've wanted to self harm. Just went back to talking about how hard it would be afterwards and how I'd find it so so difficult after the abortion and that I'd regret it for the rest of my life and wouldn't be able to handle it. Yeah done me a whole lot of good, ta!

Have been ok over the weekedn fortunately had lotsto be getting on with. Owen's party on Sat, and took him to the football yesterday. Must remember to wrap his present from Sean before I go to bed, he's already had mine - the new Pompey kit as he didn't want to wear the old kit to the game - he's as bad as his mum !

Am just watching the original 'Toughest Pubs in Britain' on Sky3. This is the one with one of my locals on!!!

Hi girls

Have only just seen this Panda, what a nightmare, you must have been furious at such crap service. I thought the idea of these services were that they were impartial and gave you the opportunity to form your own decision, not for them to force their opinions down your throat.

Hope you are coping ok and that the boys are behaving for you at the difficult time.

Beks

Well I'e cancelled everything!!! Went a bit mad today, got very upset on the phone cos I felt they weren't being helpful, and just told them to cancel the lot. So I've got to phone back tomorrow and grovel to try and get my appointments back. I'm just so frustrated with the wait, I thought an abortion was something that had to be done quickly becasue of the obvious time constraints.

Emotionally I'm up and down all day, plus I've discovered 'morning' sickness. Why does it have to be this time round that I suddenly get pregnancy symptoms. I feel yuck from waking until I go to bed, have not been sick at all, although a couple of times I've felt close and have had to grab the nearest biscuit/chocolate bar or whatever to hand. If this is what being pregnant feels like, I don't like it!

Hope you're all well, hope I'm not boring you all, but you're right, just writing things/getting it off my chest does make me feel better.

x-posts Beks, meant to put in that post that I'll give you a call later in the week when I'm not in work.

I'm sorry you've had to deal with such crap people at the clinic Panda, you'd think this was all hard enough without others making it worse. Maybe they give you an appoinment a couple of weeks away to make sure that it's a decision you've thought about rather than do on the spur of the moment .

I think I've managed to talk DH round to my way of thinking regarding steralisation. I was ill yesterday with a bit of food poisoning, and we both had horrible flash backs to what it was like for me in pregnancy. I really don't want to go through it all again.

Can't believe it's only 2 weeks until noo is 3. She's so funny, I love her grasp of the world. She's really into Snow White, and apparently spends all her time with the over 3's at nursery. Miniman is about to move up a room at nursery too. He has such a pleasant nature, he is a real joy to be around, and when the two of them are getting on it's hilarious.

We went over to the Isle of Wight on the ferry on tuesday to remember my grandfather who passed away a year ago. His ashes were scattered on the crossing last year, so the captain of the ferry stopped the boat at the same point and we dropped flowers into the sea. Noo and miniman loved the whole boat thing, and loved spending time with my family too.

oh, and noo has discovered the word that every parent dreads...

WHY?

Hi Nova, that was a nice touch by the captain ofthe ferry to stop the ship for you. I really have to say hat to you & anyone else who really suffers during pregnancy. I'm obviously a wimp! Constantly munching on bread or biscuits throughout the day so I don't feel sick, but then I'm too full for dinner.

I did give them the benefit of the doubt to start with and thought that perhaps the reason for giving you a long wait between appointments was so that you ad plenty of time to think about it and change your mind, but they told me they only have 12 appointments each week . No wonder there's so many teenage mums around here.

Owen's at school, Sean's at nursery, so should crack on with tidying etc, but I'm sure I'll end up spending hte next 2 hours playing on Owens ds (wasn't too thrilled at xp getting him that for his birthday, but I've been playing it quite a bit , ssshhhhh! Don't tell anyone!)