January 08 shiny new - year babys , tired mums and dads!

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hi all

just a quick random musing. Is baby Oscar (from Eastenders) the most invisible baby in the world or what? He seems to be permanently secreted away in Tanya's nursery. And why does she never look like a "proper" mum ... complete with sick and dribble stains on shoulder, huge eyebags and piles of laundry and ironing everywhere?

I know, it's not real. But it's so not realistic!

PS Bluebell I KNOW how hard it is... good idea about the stepper.

Hello Ladies,

It's been a while and I have a feeling I may splurge.

Bluebell - Well done for galvanising yourself to quit. Giving up smoking is a real b*h. I think what helped me was firstly waiting five minutes and thinking, if I slipped, that it wasn;t the end of the world and that I could give up again and again. Every day if need be... but it didn't need be, so good luck. Also big hugs: my mum and brother are alcoholics and I know what a sad and wearing situation it is. I think I'd fancy a ciggie in your shoes. And we're having Sabela christened even though my athiest family mock me.

Gingeme - that is sad about the wedding. Personally, I can't understand people who don't invite children. Family seems to me to be what weddings are all about.

Little Miss Sabela behaved herself very well at my friend's wedding on Saturday, which was a relief. She screamed all the way there in the car, but then didn't make a cross sound the whole day. Then she screamed all the way back. GOOD LORD that girl hates her carseat. Anyone else?

Feeling a bit low and starined. DH has been away for a week (due back on Tuesday - hooray!). I'm staying at my DAd's and the idea was that I might get some help with the baby and have a wee break but things have not worked out that way. I feel like I've had the baby in my hands constantly for the last week and have really been missing DH and his help. No one here seems to have thought i might want any help. Plus no one really has anythingnice to say. They all love Sabela but my family can be so negative. A trivial example might help explain this. My dad will ignore the fact Sabela has a perfect complexion, and then when she gets a tiny spot, says, 'she's got a spot' about ten times. I wish I was with my mother in law. She piled me with praise because she had such clear skin. But my dad is just so negative about everything, and my brother is worse. I'm furiously making mental notes to myself to give new mums encouragement and to say nice things to them for the rest of my life. A little encouragement and praise go a long way. Or they certainly would with me at the moment. I think I get more encouragement going round the shops back home in Wales.

Plus, Sabela has gone back to waking through the night, I think because we're in a strange place. Last night she woke at three and stubbornly refused to settle in her cot. I really don't want to start taking her into bed with me at night. I don'tmind in the morning btu she's been pushing the time back further and further into the night and I'm going to need some help in getting her out of the habit. I resisted her until daytime anyway, and then we had a wee sleep. It was not nice though. Tired, tired, tired.

Sorry for the splurge. I needed it!

Hello everyone How has everything been? Just had a quick scan but brain like jelly atm. Have been popping on mnet now and then but not been following postnatal threads. Felt that i was prob pissing people off abit with how i am trying to do things this time around, although i might be just being over sensitive.

Ds2 now 20 weeks, was 17lb10oz last weighed and is a content and lovely little boy. LOts of laughs and smiles and loud noises. Is still excl bfed, every 3 hours or thereabouts atm. The night time feeds have increased and he is going at the most 5 hours at night. He is still co-sleeping so not to much distruption. He also has a cold so lots of snuffles, big brother is full of cold too.

Saw dr about next baby today and need to go back in October to be referred again. Might not be able to receive treatment tilll finished bfeeding. Raises a dilemma and want to continue feeding ds2 for as long he wants.

Hi Awen - X post. What do you mean, the way you are doing things?

the whole baby led route including weaning.

I think I do that too!

Awen - You'd never piss us off love, we love you! [ahh] seriously though, everyone has their own way of looking after their LO's don't feel you can't come here because of it.

Betterhalf what a nightmare

Gingeme how sad. Surely he must see how impossible that would be for you and dh, you would think immediate family would be invited.

Lucky sorry no great tips, think most stay at home things pay peanuts anyway. I would love to stay at home too but money means i have to work it's a dilemma but my dc's have both loved nursery.

Ange LOL at baby Oscar, he obv sleep 23 hours a day

Awen great to see you what do you mean He sounds to be doing great am with you on the no sleep.

JKS yay on a good night , well done you i am not one bit You can't have everything!

Susie poor you, sounds like it was a tough time. TBH my side ofthe family are similair. They don't offer to hold dd or help me out even when they see i am obv struggling, just think some people have no idea. At least dh back tom.

Nicky will you be pleased if you are ? Sorry not able to advise on sleep we doing rubbish here !

Well at least Martha seems to have stopped waking an hour after she has gone to bed but after dream feed she still wakes twice and then is up around 6.30!

feel better for that. Just read your post. You sound like you are doing a fantastic job. People are so quick to critisice when words of support and encouragement can help so much. Love the pics on your profile, Sabelas nightie is so lovely and she is a real cutie. Are you a red head? I am. Need to put some up to date pics on.

Hey Awen, it's good to hear from you. Everyone does everything differently here as we all have different lives. But that's what I like about reading this thread, you pick up ideas and you get support when you can't find it in real life!

Was thinking - it was just over a year ago that we had a Eurovision party for DH birthday, we had food and drink aplenty from the different countries we had picked, and I felt so horrible the day after - that's when I first suspected I was preggers!

ooh weird Ange me and dp just saying we went to Chicago this time last year at half term and i had just found out i was pg and felt so sick all hol!

Hey Awen hows it going?
An update on the wedding siuation. Apparantly its all down to the brides family there are no children allowed. Its because her uncle owns the cricket club they are holding the reception in and there are no children allowed there. Sounds like the mil is a right bossy cow too. I don't think poor ss has had a lot of say in any of it realy. Dh just rang his ex (theyre pretty good friends) and she has been on the phone to their son and he has told her he doesn't know how to ring DH because he is so upset about the whole situation . DH said if hes man enough to ring him and apologise then he will go to the church bit just to see his son get married.

well charlie slept from dream feed until 8.30 so no complaints here.

Dh got very drunk last night and this morning was nearly late for work so i had to put charlie in car - unfed and drive him to nearer tube - what a bad boy.

Lily - pleased would probably be putting it too high we didnt want much of a gap but were going to give it 6 months i have a court case booked for january that would really help with family coffers if i can do it.

Anyway housemum took the plunge and charlie just been accepted at baby shak which is part of the bizzy kids company as baby model. so we will see what happens

Hope everyone all well

Good morning ladies.
nicky have I missed something here? Are you pg again?
Had the night form hell last night. Everyone in bed at 7.30 as usual. ds5 woke at 12.30 for a bottle, very unusual, settled back to bed. ds4 woke at about 2am grizzley, guess his eyes were annoying him with his conjunctivitis settled him back to bed. ds3 woke at about 3 had a nightmare and wanted a wee. ds5 woke at 6. 05 for his mornign bottle but wouldn't settle back down and wouldn't take hisdummy. ds3 and 4 woke for the day at 6.18 making lots of noise. ds5 had gone back to sleep by now so dh got the other two up and let me have a lie in till about 9.30. Oh boy don't want to that again

Oh Ginge!! Sounds like a rough night!!

Thankyou LuckySalem. Great advert for contraception aren't I ?
Everyones been grumpy today due to lack of sleep too which doesn't help
Oh well this to shall pass as they say
Meet up anyone?

hi all,

hope you all are well. rough tnight DD2 awake from 12am - 3am due to ezcema - she just would't stop scratching herself and was very unsettled. In the end had to swaddle her really tightly and after about 1/2 hr of rocking eventually fell asleep....

Hi ladies,

Lost the thread so just posting to say hi and add to my threads.

Hi all

Awen - lovely to hear from you! I'm surprised you've had any stick for your parenting style - it's what I'd love to do if I was able to! (excl BF, BLW etc). Samuel is still gorgeous!

Had a lovely day today - baby massage this morning, then a walk and a picnic with my mum friends, then a lovely hour tonight with DH and Ben when Ben was so smiley and giggly and just loving everything. He's just taken six (!) ice cubes of banana and prune, and fallen asleep instanty after his milk! My dad is coming to visit from Wales in an hour or so, and bringing a takeaway with him, so will be a nice end to a nice day

Ben's sleep is so much better at night now - he wakes for one feed a night, usually at about 4:30 / 5am, then sleeps until about 7. I'm going to try and give him a dream feed tonight at 11, and see how long he sleeps until. Last time I tried a dreamfeed it didn't make any difference - he still woke at 3, but just took less milk! (but still enough for him to wake hungry!). We're still struggling very much with his daytime naps, but a more strict routine has helped somewhat, and it was only one nap today that he cried for half an hour with.

I don't know how you do it with so many Gingeme! I feel harrassed enough with just one baby and three cats!

Sorry you've had a tough time with your family Susie - some families are just like that - DH's for a start. Apparently LOs go through a wakeful period between 4 and 6 months, which may be why she's waking more often (and usually isn't related to having solids, although did in Ben's case!) - just remember the mantra "This too shall pass!" As for the car seat - Ben instantly falls asleep in his, but I remember my brother used to scream for hours in his. Could it be the design/position? Could you borrow someone else's to see if it's Sabela or the seat?

Hugs to everyone else - got to go and tidy the house for my Dad coming!

I give up last night was virtually every two hours i am shattered!
Although not as much as you Gingeme i guess

Currently having a glass of wine, eating lemon sorbet and watching Eurovision semi final.... Love a bit of OTT cheesy euro pop!!!!

Well, over last week I have been weaning LO on to the bottle and I have such mixed feelings about this it's indescribable (guilt + relief). We are now on about 50-50. Tonight he just looked up at me so adoringly after his bedtime bottle, I burst into tears . Presumably it must be the hormones. I always said I would go to 4 months, it's been getting easier but he's still a real hungry boy and the bottles feel so liberating! I'm still BF his night feeds and will perhaps carry on morning and evening (if I can) for a while!

ooh Ange you just reminded me is it bbc3 ?
Will have to share a glass of wine with you now too

Ange- I am doing exactly the same1 I was intending the bf Ruby until she was 6 months but because she refused the bottle so much I wanted to make sure that she was content being partly bottle fed before introducing solids as introducing both I think would have freaked her out. I am feeding her in the morning and evening and once in the day basically she is getting two bottles of formula a day since yesterday and she has taken to it like a dream... I hopefully want to bf her in the morning and evening until she is 1 yr old and give her a bottle for her lunch milk... however me and dh have decided that we are going to start trying for dc2 in July which is exciting!!!!

Susie just wanted to say that coping with drink problems in families is so traumatic, I was the main carer for my dad, he was my best friend but also so dependent that my whole life revolved around him, when he died I felt like a little part of me did too. You have to be strong at the end of the day and remember that they have chosen the path in their lives and you have to choose yours... I have had to tell unhelpful inlaws to do things, like when they come round and I am up to my eyeballs in shitty nappies that they are able to fetch their own drinks!!! Families hey, you can't pick them but are forced to love them!

Have a good evening everyone!! xx

ps -- no smoking and feeling great, bought a sling for Ruby and love walking with her in it so when I carved today I banged her in the sling and walked the streets!

Well done
p.s ladies need to start thinking of new thread name soon any ideas ? thinking we should keep the first part the same so can identify it and just change last bit maybe something weaning orientated as the sleep deprivated among us seems to be more of a minority

ooooooooh just updated some pics of Ruby... [pushy proud mother]