December 2006 drag yourselves over here!

[Indith]

Oooops no room to link to old thread!

Lol at AQ forgetting that she is pg Sure the madness will pass. And don't worry about my chocolate supply, I live round the corner from Tesco

Jabber I think you should pop ds in the post and I'll sned him on holiday with all my clibing friends, they do similarly dangerous stunts on a larger scale. He'd have a ball

BP, you and me both (asleep on sofa, or nearly). Don't quick shags take more energy than slow ones?

My period's late at the moment and I mentioned it to DH who promptly said 'well you'd better get a DNA test done then'. Apparently we haven't done the deed since we were on holiday in October . Oops. It's not really top of my list of priorities but I didn't realise it had slipped that far down!

I still can't catch up with everything i've missed.

Ds1 was sleeping really well. We had over 3 weeks of 12-14 hours straight sleep every night. But it all went skew whiff at the beginning of this week and last night he was up most of the night.

I just don't get it. WHY won't he sleep?

Indith, I'm only about half an hour from Manchester - how about a get together next time you're this way?

Poor Mags, hope she's working something out with her DH.

AQ, when's the scan? Have I missed it?

FGS and Eli, I'm now feeling like I'm complete with 3. I saw my DNiece this weekend and it was lovely cuddling her but I felt a certain sense of relief knowing that I could give her back, iykwim? 3 is perfect for me, I've realised.

solo, congrats on the shag! Perhaps this will start another long thread about sexy fiction etc. DP wanted me to get some from the library as he's feeling the pinch (should show him this thread as we're like rabbits in comparison!).

oli, drat on the sleep, so frustrating when you get used to it and back it goes. Scan's on Tues, and I do hope it lifts my mood. I've been feeling so depressed all week, I thought it had lifted but I'm crying every day, hard to sleep all the signs really.

eli, I look forward to the first date b/t our lo's! Consider him booked!

Hi All,

PMSL at Solo.. in fact am still chuckling to myself now

Its nice to hear about all these complete families too - makes me surer that I want another and hopefull that that will be enough for us... don't fancy 2 more pregnancies

Sorry to hear about yet more disturbed sleep Olihan and Indith. I sympathise entirely, just when you think you've turned a corner, you end up right back where you started again .I am finally having some sleep-related joy at the moment but there seems to be no pattern to it at all. I have given up on any solution per se and am just going to accept it as part of life until the bubs gets a bit older. I've decided that's the best way for me to deal with it.

After my pulled muscle in my chest last week I had been carrying DD a bit funny this week and have completely put my back out. Am in agony and can't lift anything. Aaaaaargh! Have borrowed a woven wrap this week to use for short trips and am ditching my Ergo for a ToddlerHawk Mei Tai for long periods so hopefully my babywearing days can be rescued although looks like DD isn't coming on any walks for a couple of weeks. Really like the wrap... if I could work out how to do some of the better carries I think I would get on better with it than the MT.

Being nosey Olihan which side of Manchester do you live? I am 45 mins north of the city and go to uni there

AQ, have you seen your GP or spoken to your MW about feeling low? You've been feeling down for most of your pg so far, haven't you? I'm just wondering whether it's a touch of AND that could do with a bit of professional support. ((hugs)) for now, have a warm bath and a cuddle with dp before bed, perhaps?

Lennied, south, into Cheshire. I didn't realise you were oop north too.

God! sleep? my wonderful Dd is now back dowwnstairs (sorry, she's just added to my typing-pretty eh?)after screaming for 20+ minutes and keeping big brother awake!she's the same almost every night and keeps me awake with least one wake up each night, so is a nightmare! Now she's running around like she's just had a refreshing 12 hours sleep! blowing large raspberries at me when I give her ' the look' or tell her off...so, she's now in the playpen and screaming some more

AQ, so sorry to hear that you're feeling low. I think it is definitely worthwhile to check into whether it might be AND. I remember getting quite depressed the first trimester with ds2.

solo, congrats!

ds2 has also gone back to getting up every 3 hours - grrrrr. Not sure if it's teeth or just habit. Suspecting the latter which worries me that he is getting more and more like ds1, who didn't sleep through until he was over 2

So as far as complete families, when ds2 was born I felt very sure that we had completed our family. The only thing is that before I met dh I had been planning to adopt from China and still have pangs about not getting my little Chinese girl Dh has said repeated that he will not consider adoption and I am sure I do not want another pregnancy. So, it's two boys for us and I'm thankful for them.

Hugs to AQ you poor thing, take care of yourself, listen to these wise ladies here.

Oli very sorry to here about the sleep, it was all going to well! Would love to meet you but my sister only has a 1 bed flat so not like I'm there much!

Jabber, solo etc my sleep sympathy to you too.

Ds slept through last night Hoping it was just a week or so of mummy needing/teething stuff. Must instruct him on the importance of not waking during exams.

Well ds and i have lots to do today, washing to do, bathroom to clean, library books to return.....already been to tesco though

FGS you would be proud, I did the washing up last night and put it away and made my sink all shiny.

Thanks, guys . Yes, have been low all the way through, it did lift for a few weeks & I thought it was just 1st trimester hormones. But now nearly 16 weeks so can't be that (did lift at 10-11 wks with ds2). DP is being v.supportive as I am complete cow at present. DS1 having major tantrums (at 4.5!!) so we're setting each other I think. Will see how scan goes tomorrow, might be enough to kick me into touch, if not I need to speak to someone as don't want my boys to have me like this rest of the year much less dc3.
Commiserations on the lack of sleep, oli, jabber, solo - we get a night now & again with both of them, can't imagine doing it all the time I'd be dead on my feet!
FGS, just to agree with Indith that posting flybaby tips are helping me too. I'm managing to do 2-3 new things every week so sink remains shiny and all clothes put out every night etc which is really making me feel better about it all. I know you got into it to cope with dd2 arriving and that's my motivation.

Hi everyone.

AQ - I've been feeling really low lately. This last month has been awful but DH and I sat down and made a list of everything worrying me yesterday and then came up with a plan against each one. It did help.

Glad to see you are still babystepping. Here is Babystep Day 11 - Morning and Evening routines If you can get these cracked then there is much less morning chaos I find.

Congratulations Indith

((hugs)) AQ and anyone else who needs it. Magnolia?

Glad something positive came out of the clinic visit Jabber.

I ran into Sacha on facebook recently and sent her a drink as she was feeling sick. Probably not very appropriate when pg but it's the thought that counts

3 DCs is enough for me though I am still unable to get rid of any baby clothes/prams/maternity gear

Ah this parenthood thing is hard

Ds and I have cleaned the bathroom (he tried to shut me in the shower), my kitchen is clean from last night and ds is grinning manically having discovered that leather sofas are fantastic for blowing raspberries against.

I had always wanted 3 Dc's, but it took me 14 years to get my son and I was 34...his father p*d off when I was pg and I spent my entire pregnancy depressed and on antidepressants and continued to take them until Ds was considerably older. I then spent a lot, if not most of the next 6 years single and terribly unhappy, working full time, and making myself ill.

I met my Dp and he told a little white lie in order to get me to go out with him(told me it was up to me to get him to change his mind about having children). This was just general conversation as I was saying that there was no point in us getting together as he didn't want any more children(he has a grown up Dd)and I did IYSWIM.
Anyway we ended up with our beautiful Dd, but Dp and I still don't live together after 3.6 years and I often feel really down about that- which is not the same as being depressed, but I think various other life problems can very easily compound those low feelings and turn them into depression.
I had, before getting pg with Dd decided in my head that I wasn't going to have any more babies as I'd rather keep Dp and be happy with him and my Ds, so I got rid of everything out of the loft to do with babies and 10 days later found out I was pregnant! Soooooooo...I won't be having any more with Dp so that'd be TWO for me!!!

((AQ)) belated hugs, but big ones...your plan makes sense to me, I'm glad you will get help if scan day comes and goes changing how you feel. Its tomorrow, yes? Will be thinking of you

dd2 is going through her glued-to-mummy phase (dd1 did it too, I vaguely remember) and has gone from being easy to put to bed to squawking wildly if I step away from the cot for a second. Not at nap time, but at night time - seems to be the longer separation prospect doens't appeal! She's still got a hacking cough a couple of times per night, that needs at least water and at worst Medised to soothe...so commiserations to my fellow sleep-lacking parents...

Jabber, we looked into adoption for ages before dd1 came along, and I can relate...the feelings have pretty much gone now, but I sometimes feel there are shadowy children (miscarried babies and not-adopted ones both) at the back of my consciousness somewhere. Not often ly, but still there. We do a Plan International thing instead now, as a sort of acknowledgement of the child out there somewhere we didn't adopt - if that makes ANY sense at all!!

Rushing off to get dd1...Solo, you sound like one strong Mum, want to post more but aargh time...

not changing how you feel. Sigh.

Shadow babies...that's a lot of it I think. I had this image of my little Asian daughter for so many years. Still can't quite accept that she's not here. I did sponsor a child from China for a while but it seemed to rub salt in the wound instead of making me feel better.

Ds2 did two 4 hour stretches last night and dh "allowed" me to go to the guest room for a while when it became obvious that ds2 was up for the day at 5:30. Dh told me Sat that he didn't think new meds were working and was going to stop taking them I have managed to convince him to stay on them for now but I am feeling very charitable towards him atm

I think that DD2 has settled into a lovely 1 nap per day at about 12.30 routine

that is "not" charitable!

FGS, congrats on the nap! Ds2 has always been a pretty good napper at least = just wish that could translate into good nights.

Indith, I had a dream last night that I met you!

Love the shadowy children Eli idea I have them too and try not to think about them ever. I would still like to adopt but whilst there is a functioning ovary in my body, DH will no doubt say it has to come out of me. Drat

How random Jabber

Thanks again for hugs & support, really appreciated & I had quite a good day. I was at work, so I'm wondering whether part of it is exhaustion. I can barely stay on my feet by the afternoon. Even though like fgs's dd, ds2 has a decent nap, I'm always getting tea or washing on, spending time with ds1.

Poor sacha if she's still feeling sick, she's more like 20 weeks I think as due in Sept.

The shadow babies make me sad I can see why you'd still think of them Eli/Jabber, we thought we would adopt/foster if no.3 didn't come along but I wasn't wedded to it. Jabber, have you read that Anne Tyler book about adopted asian babies or would it make you too sad? Digging to America, I think. Very good, but I love all her books.

Lennied, I bet you'll be next on here to announce! I've a feeling...

Did LOL at castles and functioning ovaries!