November 2007 - None-day Morning Lay Ins!

[RGPargy]

Hey ladies! Our thread was getting a bit long so i started a new one. Hope you dont mind!

Jet - You sound like a good friend to your pg lady!!

LMB - you sound well knackered! 2 hourly feeds are hard aren't they, you poor thing. Hope you get your car sorted out soon (and cheaply too!).

Loopy - yikes at 6 kids!!

Ellie has been screaming merry hell tonight with her teeth AND colic and in the end i had to just walk away because she wasn't settling at all! DP went to her rescue and then i went back up when i'd got myself together again and finally she settled and is now sleeping again. It's bloody hard isn't it!!

I am in awe of you all that manage to find time to post !! I haven't turned my computer on for...... mmmm..... months.

Marshall very clingy during the day wanting constant stimulation, wether it means playmat, swings, or door bouncer... inbetween cuddles and breastfeeding, IS IT A BOY THING ? how can i stop him being so needy ?? ( he sleeps from 7.30 till 7.30 so no day naps, sleep feed 11pm)

Breastfeeding is so painful.... i am fighting nature , i have small nipples, i think..... but he is sucking soo hard i am in as much pain as the first 2 weeks !!! How do i go about changing him to formula, which brands are best ?? mind field, Any one done this ?? or how can i get rid of the pain..... tried expressing for 48 to rest ( still killed the nipple) lansiloh - i get through oodles of the stuff, i change my pads - although i never leak, i don't have an infection - but do have cracked nipples now, tried hot showers, cold cabbage, etc....

HELP !!

hi all just had a catch up. I'll post so i'm bookmarked and then write a proper post soon. I'm leaving NZ on friday had a great time

RGPargy - my DS had colic till a few weeks ago, when i read a book and it advised never to feed before 3 hours or 3 1/2 is bottled.... simple i thought , so i tried it for a day.... by that night the colic was no more, and hasn't returned. Try it, i may help you too.

Rachee - agree with Loopy about seeing a BF counsellor? Perhaps you are having latch issues?

DD is fed every 3-4 hours so i dont think that's the cause of her colic. She's not suffered from it for aaaages so last night was an unhappy blast from the past!

Fiona - glad you had a great time.

Loopy - Sorry you had a crap night.

Ellie woke up for a feed at about 2am and then woke a couple more times with dummy issues throughout the night. And to think she teased me with two nights of sleeping through last week! What a tyke she is!

We're off to Bounce & Rhyme today so hopefully the stimulation will wear her out a bit.

Have a good day all.

RG, poor you and Ellie! Little tyke indeed. And I love the phrase 'dummy issues'!!!

Loopy, Bliss, I still have DD in with me - in a co-sleeper for half the night then in bed with me...

Sleep is still atrocious for us so best not to comment on that. I'm worried about feeding now, too, which I never have been before. Since the awful bug, my stomach hasnt really settled down (I wont give you TMI!) and I sense that my milk supply is being affected -she gets angry at the end of a feed, latches back on as though she wants more and then gets cross when there isnt any. This isnt happening in the morning, when my supply is more plentiful. It may also of course be a growth spurt... she's 4 months (18 weeks) now and I gather that's growth spurt time typically..? and I am very weak and tired, thanks to the bug, so...

Am going to complain about the Cow and Gate woman in Tesco promoting early weaning strongly, btw.

Baby yoga today, which will be fun.

Have a good day everyone!

Hi all, haven't logged on in a while as my parents have been down so just signing in and going to catch up. x

Sounds like a few of us are tired out! Adam developed a new evening routine of falling asleep at 8 then scratching and pulling at his face followed by screaming and sobbing every time we tried to put him down. Inconsolable for DH which makes DH feel and me feel knackered as no break. However, getting there slowly, have started to swaddle him with a sheet which stops the scratching then unravel him once he is in a deep sleep. Feels harder now sometimes than when he was a newborn.

You think you have a bruiser LMB - Adam is 18lbs 6 at 16 weeks!! He is a whopper. Already in 6-9 month clothing apart from Next stuff which is nice and roomy. Sure people must think I am feeding him pie and chips. Still seems happy with my milk for the time being, apart from health benefits of not weaning till 6 months, I can't be arsed with all the faff of preparing food!

Must go DS shouting x

Choc - good for you for complaining to Tescos. What does baby yoga entail??

Sarah - WOW!!!! Ads certainly DOES sound like a whopper!!! What a great weight! If it's any consolation, Ellie does the same thing - scratching at her face with tiredness and then DP not being able to console her. Think it's a phase of some sort.

Loopy - it's good to have a spend up now and again!

Rachee- It sounds like latch problem possibly your ds is sucking mainly on your nipple as apposed to taking the nipple to the back of his mouth and sucking the areola (dark circle around nipple). If that makes sense.

You could try a deep latch (which is good if you have small nipples) where you get the baby to open his mouth wide and put more of your breast into his mouth, you may not see a ring of areola around his mouth whilst feeding as normal, but there shouldn't be the pain from direct sucking of nipple.

If this is the case the pain should stop pretty quickly and your nipple will heal.
But i would also suggest that you go to bf support group or see a bf counsellor so that someone can check your latch.

Please let me know if this helps (it's hard to know what to suggest without seeing you feed in person!)

Better day today. We went to underones, where there was fireman doing a talk on fire safety. Then a walk to the beach. We also popped to the dr.s as Coby has a lump in one of his legs. But were told not to worry as it was probably a build up of scar tissue from his jab. So were just going to keep an eye on it.

Rachee- just done a quick search on deep latch for you here's a link which may help more than my babbling. there's also some good photo's too, visual aids always work allot better with me.

LMB - you are so good with your bfing advice. I know you do peer counselling - have you advised any mums in rl yet? Think it is fab .

RG - isn't it horrible when they pull at their face when they are tired, especially when that chilled glass of wine is waiting for you downstairs . How's the feeding going?

Loopy ikwym re spending loads of money, all my spare cash goes on baby related stuff these days.LOL re shoes, one of my best friends came from a very big, very poor family and they all used to fight over shoes and would wear whatever they could squeeze on their feet ! She has made up for it now with a fantastic shoe collection.

Well Adam is really chatty and happy today so best go and make the most of it, such a sweetheart.

sarahlou- Thankyou. In RL i tend to talk mostly to pregnant young mums. I give them general advice on bf and what to expect. I think by having a general understannding they are more likely to consider it as a choice on how they will feed their baby. I give them all the positives (health benifits, bonding, ease etc.)

As well as the possible negatives (tiredness in early weeks, thrush, mastitis, sore nipples etc.) But also give them methods on how to prevent these occuring where possible, as well as making sure they are aware of support groups if they need advice in the future!

chocolate- hope your feeling more positive today and better of course. Just remeber that your body will produce more milk to satisfy your lo as and when it needs to! The best thing that you can do is to relax and rest as much as possible and eat lots of chocolate hobnobs. I heard that they do wonders at helping to produce prolactin!

Think i'm going to have a lovely PJ day today playing with ds and possibly maybe make myself do some washing....

Loopy - was going to ask the same thing re baby falling asleep while feeding then waking the second he goes in the cot! The wierd thing is that William takes several hours to settle at night, but in the morning after his morning feed he settles quite happily in it.
The garden kneeler is a great idea - am going to get one for myself!

sarah - I remember being quite sad when I had to start DD on solids, bf is so much simpler! And i didn't want to go down the jars of food route, instead pureeing endless amounts of vegetables and freezing them. It paid off though as DD isn't a fussy eater most of the time, and loves vegetables.

rachee - LMB's advice is very good (as always I would also suggest laying off the nipple cream and letting your nipples air dry after feeding. I think I used nipple cream once after DD was born then read this advice and it really worked for me. Your nipples tend to harden themselves up this way. Nipple cream does make great under eye cream to reduce puffiness though!!!

rg - my friend's a first-time mum and I remember how daunting it was. She's also a brilliant friend, when I was pg with DD I started bleeding in week 12 and she took me from work to the doctors and stayed with me the whole time. It was also nice of our boss to let her do that.

it's been a nice day today so we've spent some time in the garden sorting out the tubs, DD loves growing things, and William just likes being in the fresh air. We made biscuits this afternoon which I've eaten far too many of already!

Jetgirl - Adam is a different boy at night to in the morning too! Crabby like his mum . Keep reading that you should put them in the cot awake to get them used to settling themselves but Adam hasn't read the books so we do complete opposite - feed and cuddle to sleep then swaddle and put down when away with the fairies. Does anyone manage to put their LOs down awake?

Rachee - I second the whole air-drying of the nips advice. Helped me when I had thrush. Kept forgetting that the room where I hang my laundry had no curtains tho . BTW have you ruled out thrush? Bit of canestan can't harm.

Loopy - I started out wanting everything brand new but Ebay is starting to sound like a v.sensible idea. If I look at him for long enough I can see him growing! Flaming ridiculous. Glad I am not the only lazy mum who is groaning at the thought of all that pureeing!

Felt a bit teary when out with Adam today, i still find it hard to bf in public and sure he picks up the vibes because never as successful as when at home and all comfy cosy. Just feel I can never be out for a decent amount of time , especially as Adam has now decided he doesn't like his pram and cries to be picked up (my fault I know, I picked him up initially before he weighed a ton). Bought a better sling at the weekend but still trying to work out which bit goes where! Ah well, this too shall pass.

Have a good evening all x

LMB - always along with such great advice!

Sarah - Oh yes, guaranteed when there's a glass of chilled vino waiting for you they will do their best to keep you from it! I had to gently hold Ellie's arms tonight as she was quite tired after 3 of her friends came round to play today and i think that helped a little.

Loopy - i too think that shoes should be fitted and should in no way be secondhand! As for DD fussing, could you not slip her off your boob at the same time as putting a dummy in?? Dont know if you're using a dummy or not, but if you are, it's an idea anyway!

Jet - wow, your boss was deffo nice to let you do that! Alot of bosses/companies wouldn't entertain it!

Sarah - i know what you mean about feeding in public coz i still dont do it! I will avoid it all costs and only do it if extremely desperate so no doubt Ellie would feel my nervous vibes too. Our local shopping centre has some lovely BF rooms tho so at least i can go out shopping and not worry about finding somewhere nice to feed Ellie. The feeding rooms even have lovely rocking chairs to sit in and free water too!

Well, today i feel like the worst mummy in the land! I had 3 friends round today with their 3 kids (16 weeks, 14 months & 14 months). I fed Ellie at midday and was going to change her nappy but got distracted with coffees or something and Ellie went to sleep and i completely forgot about changing her. Anyway, at 3.30 i fed her again and by this time there was just me and one other lady left so i made a point of changing Ellie only to discover that she had a dirty nappy and it was obvious it had been there for some time!! I was mortified that the poor little thing had sat there in a sh1tty nappy for a good couple of hours. She'd already had a poo this morning so i didn't think she'd go again and as she's a once a week girl, i thought that was that!! Now her little bum crack is red and probably a bit sore too and i just feel AWFUL!! It didn't help that she was teary again tonight from being overtired and was in pain with something, (probably wind or teeth or both) and i couldn't help but wonder if her little peachy bum was sore and that it was all my fault.

Anyway, best go as we are working out finances tonight. How depressing!

Have a good sleep, all! x

Loopy- I'm affraid i don't have any real advice really. Except possibly giving her a dummy if it is only comfort sucking. I don't personally use a dummy or really want to go down that route. But allot of mums who've held out for their own reasons, have said that as soon as they gave their baby a dummy it was a god send. Much happier baby.

Lots of the mums at my groups rave about those weird clear dummies where you can see in the babies mouth. (Think they are nipple like in shape aswell)

Or possibly as your co-sleeping it may just be the skin to skin contact she's after. Have you tried laying your had near your Lo face or hand after feeding (If its not too awkward, images of loopy doing amazing circus contortions pop to mind!) . I do this with Coby if he stirs and it re-assures him and he settles himslef again pretty quickly.

I think its possibly just phase that will hopefully pass as quickly as it started! I wish i could stop Coby's two hourly night feeds in knackered. I've started to introduce more frequent daytime feeds and i think its slowly working. I do hope this constant feeding passes soon for my sanity.

Jet- You sound like a lovely hands on mum, I can't wait till ds is old enough to bake, paint and play in the garden!

Sarahlou- Is there a Mothercare where you shop as they have lovely mother and baby rooms to feed privately in (sometimes there's other mums feeding or changing their babies) Boots also have feeding rooms, as well as most department stores. Marks and sparks are good too, their bra fitting changing rooms are big and have seats so are great for feeding!

I sometimes feel uncomfortable if i haven't chosen a great bf outfit and sit fiddling with tiny buttons, getting flustered whilst ds fusses. Or try and locate my boob for ages because i've fogotten to put on a feeding bra and look to be fondling my breast in a cafe!. But just chuck a blanket over my shoulder and hope for the best! I just think what i'm doing is natural . What those silly girls on page 3 are doing isn't!

Rg- big X post gosh i was typing for ages!

Oh RG- don't worry you are not the worst mummy at all! I'm sure we've all been guilty of leaving our babies in a nappy for too long on an occassion. Especially when there's distractions or the baby falls asleep. I'm sure sudocreme/cream (sp) will do the trick and she'll have her peachy little bum back to normal by morning!

night! xx

Oh RG- don't worry you are not the worst mummy at all! I'm sure we've all been guilty of leaving our babies in a nappy for too long on an occassion. Especially when there's distractions or the baby falls asleep. I'm sure sudocreme/cream (sp) will do the trick and she'll have her peachy little bum back to normal by morning!

night! xx

LMB - our Mothercare has awful facilities, hard bench and weird florescent lights which I noticed the local hospital uses in its loos to deter drug users - lovely! Boots is good. Never thought of using changing room for feeding - do you just ask to use them? Great idea. TBH I have never got the hang of wapping my boobs out discretely so I get in a lather if there is nowhere semi-private to feed. Wish I was a bit more blase about it.

RG - you are a lovely mum. Adam once did a poo and I hadn't realised and it was encrusted onto his little bottom by the time I got to it . Out with the chisel. Bet Ellie is just tired from all the extra stimulation.