November 2007 - None-day Morning Lay Ins!

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Hey ladies! Our thread was getting a bit long so i started a new one. Hope you dont mind!

"so I'm not going to be someone who weans early to help her sleep!..."

er ahem !! well i am one of those evil mothers i'm afraid, though in honesty i don't think it has made much difference tho' i don't know, what i will say is that Ollie does love his little meals one at lunch and one at supper, he has baby porridge or rice mixed with either banana, apple, peach, pear and one meal of veggie ie mashed butternut squash or sweet potato, i still BF him as much though whether he is taking as much is anyones guess

after dream feed at 10 / 11ish he is still waking at 4ish for feed and then goes till about 6.00 ish , however last night he woke ar 3 for feed and then decided to start his day at 5 what a nightmare, he is sleeping quite peacefully now though !!!

I am a bit worried about weaning him off the breast although i will probably continue until hes 6 months, as he blankly refuses to take a bottle unless its EBM, does anyone have any tips ?

anyway feeling quite bleary eyed today, as was also feeling knackered yesterday but went out with my mum last night to see "Zorro the Musical" LOL ermm......altho the spanish numbers were really good the schmaltzy ballad types tunes were just terrible, still made a change i guess

see ya
Lxxxx

ELB1

CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!

ELB - WOW!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

Lizzie - Ollie sounds like he has a fab appetite!!

ELB1- Congratulations Your LO will be so close, It'll be lovely! I have a few friends with a year gap siblings (same sex) and they get on so much better than the ones with 2 year gap! (which is what i'm plannining!)

RG- Coby was going along that route, I was starting to think he needed something else (and he is a bruiser!). But i didn't give him anything and now his hunger is calming down today.
I was talking to the My HV and she said that allot of mums still do wean early against their addvice. But the addvice is there for a reason (she said that lots of mums just think theire being difficult!!) but at the end of the day its the mothers choice. So if you do decide to wean early don't beat yourself up about it. Just weigh up pros and cons. It may not lead to Ellie sleeping through. For example the food could upset her immature stomach and she may fuss more at night, some babies do. Or not. I think what i'm trying to say is food doesn't always mean sleeping through!

Plus your milk has so much more nutrition than baby rice (which probably taste like yuck goo anway).

I'm waiting for Coby, so that he can eat all the yummy tasty stuff at 6 months!

What are your current thoughts on it?

Loopy- I try and kick dp out all the time but he wont have any of it as the we haven't put the blinds up in the spare room yet. Our beds only a double too! I'm so jealous. What i'd do to stretch out in bed!

ELB1- Congratulations Your LO will be so close, It'll be lovely! I have a few friends with a year gap siblings (same sex) and they get on so much better than the ones with 2 year gap! (which is what i'm plannining!)

RG- Coby was going along that route, I was starting to think he needed something else (and he is a bruiser!). But i didn't give him anything and now his hunger is calming down today.
I was talking to the My HV and she said that allot of mums still do wean early against their addvice. But the addvice is there for a reason (she said that lots of mums just think theire being difficult!!) but at the end of the day its the mothers choice. So if you do decide to wean early don't beat yourself up about it. Just weigh up pros and cons. It may not lead to Ellie sleeping through. For example the food could upset her immature stomach and she may fuss more at night, some babies do. Or not. I think what i'm trying to say is food doesn't always mean sleeping through!

Plus your milk has so much more nutrition than baby rice (which probably taste like yuck goo anway).

I'm waiting for Coby, so that he can eat all the yummy tasty stuff at 6 months!

What are your current thoughts on it?

Loopy- I try and kick dp out all the time but he wont have any of it as the we haven't put the blinds up in the spare room yet. Our beds only a double too! I'm so jealous. What i'd do to stretch out in bed!

Wow ELB!!!! Congrats!

Lizzie- I wasnt criticising a mum who weans early to help lo sleep. Goodness if I thought it'd help I would do the same, it's just my DD's bad sleeping isnt cos she's hungry.

Having CRAP day as have hideous vomiting and diarrhoea bug - which doesnt go well with bf!!!

LMB can i ask what the recommendation is for preterm baby re. weaning. Callum is 25 weeks (adjusted 18 weeks) but I don't know if I should stat weaning next week or wait another 8 weeks?

Evening all

LMB - thanx for the info. My thoughts on weaning keep changing all the time. I dont think i really want her on purees and babyrice just yet so i think i'll be holding off til she's six months. I might be just being paranoid about my supply of milk because she's going through a phase of not feeding for very long so i think she's not getting enough. I am starting to wonder if, as she's been having a small bottle of EBM before bed, she's preferring the flow of the Tommee Tippee Closer to Nature bottle and is getting lazy with mummy's flow?? She certainly favours the right side over the left as the flow is better on the right but i read on Kellymom about trying to get them to feed on the left (slower) side first as they'll feed from it better if they feed from that side first, IYKWIM, thereby increasing the flow/supply. I think i'm just paranoid that she'll prefer the bottle to me and next thing you know, she'll be on fomula!

As for her sleeping, she's actually started to go a bit longer at night recently. Tuesday night she slept from 8.45 til 6.30, Wednesday night she only woke up once for a short feed at 1.40am and then last night she slept through from 8.30 til 4.40am. We've recently borrowed a sleeping bag for her so i'm wondering if she's not been waking up much because she's been warm and cosy all night?!

Loopy- I think your suggestion is a good one, can't see any problems with it to help the transition from BM to formula.
LizzieO- I think if you do it slowly over a couple of weeks your Lo will probably hardly notice. Its really great that your thinking of continuing with BM till 6 months.

Sparkly- The advice with weaning early babies is to wait till their 6 months adjusted. Just because the stomach hasn't had that extra time to mature. But I think you'll get a good indication when Callums ready. As he'll be sitting confidently in his high chair supporting his head well and have a good sense of hand eye co-ordination. Maybe you could try to introduce a few soft finger foods in 6 weeks, which he may just play with and suck. It may take him a further 2 weeks to become really interested, and start swallowing the food.

The good thing about BLW is that they will let you know when they are ready. All you can do is offer them a range of foods to try and they will only start eating when they are physically ready!

chocolate- Hope the bug has passed and you feeling a little better.

Morning

Ellie has been fussing alot on the breast ever since we introduced her nightly bottle of EBM so i've decided to stop giving it to her nightly as i think she is becoming a lazy feeder and getting frustrated. Instead, we've agreed that once a week on either a saturday or sunday, Ellie can have a bottle of EBM in the morning so that i can have a lay in and DP can get up with her. That sounds like a great idea to me and takes the pressure off me to express 3-4oz every day for her. At least i can express leisurely throughout the week and not worry if i dont have a productive milk day!

On the down side tho, Ellie only had a feed from me before bed last night and subsequently woke at 11, 2 and 4, whereas normally she'll just wake at around 4ish. Oh well, cant have it all ways. It's either cut out the nightly EBM or slowly go to bottles but i dont want to do that.

What's everyone up to today?

hi all, had my parents surprise party last night, we actually pulled it off even though someone tried to spoil it by sending my parents a card with 'saturday party for you ssh' on it, but my dad read the ssh as 55H and it just confused him lol. Anyway fed Callum at 10pm, and he fell asleep in his pram and when we got home i put him straight tto bed and he slept till 9am!!! my boobs have leaked and are very full but he slept all night

Sparkly - glad everything went ok! What happened about the DJ in the end?

Loopy - sounds like you have a very sleepy household there!

Ellie is taking less time at her feeds, but I'm finding i'm feeding her more often because she's a whinge-pants after a couple of hours or so. Feeds used to take at least 20 minutes but now they take about 10 with her whinging and pulling off and on for the last minute or so.

I'm not sure if half the time she is just bored (we need a major toy/activity centre injection i think) or whether she is actually hungry again.

HAven't had time to catch up. Wanted to say hi. Very tired/frazzled mummy here.

M is being a sweetie but being back at work full time is taking some adjustment on my part. M loves nursery and is sleeping through the night (usually). Anyone else weaning? It looks like M is taking after mummy in the eating stakes ie she loves food!

RG the first DJ didn't arrive (not a shock really) but the one we managed to get on wednesday was great. He came dressed in a suit and a bowtie and played all the music we requested.

I am hoping Callum will sleep again tonight, but judging on pass experience with Callum I bet he doesn't!!

Loopy - sod's law isn't it? I think they know when it's night time. I haven't tried putting Ellie in her cot for her morning nap coz i really dont think she'd go down. She sleeps on the sofa instead. Obviously i'll have to watch that when she can roll over etc but all the time she's pretty immobile she's safe enough.

Silk - i feel your pain - been there, done that. It's knackering isn't it. No weaning here at the mo, although it does make me laugh (??) when Elie whinges and blows bubbles when we eat! She desperate to ger her gnashers into some foood but i'm going to hold out til 6 months i reckon.

Sparkly - glad it worked out in the end. The original DJ sounds like a complete arse to take your money and run! You'd think he'd have the courtesy to at least call you and tell you he wouldn't be showing up, but obviously he's not a courteous person!! Did Callum sleep ok last night?

Callum slept from 10pm till 8am!! I woke up and went into his room and he was awake playing with his cloth book. Finally after 6 months of no sleep, he is sleeping through!!! I never thought he would get it!!

After Ellie kept me up from 3.20am til 5.30am, i am seriously of Callum sleeping through!!!!!

the other night I was awake with him from 2am till 6am, and then the older ones woke up, I had 1 hours sleep, I was soooooooooo tired...

Oh yuk!! It's horrible when that happens isn't it. Yesterday when DP got up, I handed Ellie over to him and went back to bed for a couple of hours! It was lovely!

choc - I know what you mean about people telling you that you can wean at 4 months, someone at DH's office said i should start weaning William as our nights are so disrupted at the mo, but he's not waking because he's hungry, it's just a comfort thing. I would have been furious at the cow and gate rep and tesco.

sparkly - glad the party was a success in the end

congrats ELB. How are you feeling? Not too much morning sickness I hope.

Loopy - no glitter today, but sugar strands instead, which are nearly as bad! DD and I made butterfly cakes this morning, they are very yummy

William is now using his hands really well, reaching for things and grabbing them, much to DD's amusement. He's developing a cute sense of humour too, usually laughing at DH's face
Off to visit my friend who is 38 weeks pg. Am taking her a magazine and nutri-grain bars for when she's in labour, a feme-pad in case she needs stitches, breast pads and a pack of nappies!! The essentials for the first couple of days IME!

I've had such a flippin awful day today.

I'm soo knackered from these two hourly night feeds. But stupidly decided to go shopping as i wanted to get all my didgital photos developed and start making an album. (The other computer breaking scared me into doing this as we lost allot of photos) Luckily i had a few of the best ones saved on facebook or as attachments in e-mails.

any way where was i.... Oh yeah so i was driving out of the multistory car park and knew i was going to most probably scrape my car but did nothing stop it. So wasn't really surprised to hear that horrible grinding sound. I'm such an idiot. I often do things like this at the moment, for example put a drink down thinking if i put it there i'll probably spill it. Then 10 minutes later i'll kick it over. Its like i can see the negative thing happening but don't stop it.
Its just from the sheer tiredness I don't think my brains working properly.

So now i have around 5 dented scrates above my wheel arch! I've been quoted between £90-£300 to fix it! The company that quoted £90 are coming tommorrow evening to view the car to confirm the quote. So i'm really pissed off at myself as well as being exhausted and even more skint. And Coby is having teething pains and winging allot which is making things a whole lot worse.