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Dalrymps · 13/12/2007 21:16

Hey guys sorry for the sh*t title, if there's already been a new thread set up please direct me there???

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muppetgirl · 02/01/2008 21:15

j20, you put your laptop in the oven?????

alicet · 02/01/2008 21:35

J20 pmsl at you melting your laptop!!!!! Sounds like just the sort of dozy thing I'd do!!! Actually I broke the last one by spilling ds's porrige in it after I put it on the keyboard while thinking 'probably shouldn't do this!' and then knocked the effing thing!

MrsFish (and anyone else) Ledbury is in Herefordshire - see this link www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|ledbury. Will have to ask my mum where would be a good place to meet unless ejt you know anywhere if you've spent time there? Strawberry and Apricott be good to see you guys too! Sounds like it might end up being quite a party!

Anyasmum no organisation required for NYE - just bought cheese, pate, bread and ready made canapes from Sainsburys!!!! Have managed hot meals as Adam settles about 7.30 but only very basic stuff and only by not eating till about 8.30!!! In the early days we ate lots of frozen stuff that I had made while pg.

MrsFish sorry to hear Sam has started waking. Thats no fun. Hope all settles soon...

Off to read some more!

alicet · 02/01/2008 21:42

Stefka hope Dareh's poor sleeping is just a blip...

Choc have you got a syringe? Try squirting a few drops of cooled boiled water up each nostril before a feed to clear her nose as she won't be able to suck properly while its blocked. Its also fine to give Calpol at a dose of 15mg per kg - in normal calpol that would equate to 2.5mls for a 4kg baby. I spoke to a paediatric doc for this advise when Adam had a cold at 3 weeks and he said Calpol is perfectly safe and that the reason it says not to give before 2 months on the bottle is because babies who are ill before then probably need to be seen by a doc. Having said that if you are happy she is otherwise well then I don't see the harm. I was happy with Adam. I know I am a doc but I tend to err on the side of being paranoid with my boys as I don't think its very easy to be objective with regards to their health and I prefer someone else to make the call not me!!!

Ejt - lovely poem - I have heard the last verse before at Sam's baby massage class. Lovely.

Apricott the place you stayed at for NYE sounds gorgeous. We spent a lot of time in St Davids when I was a child - we used to rent a place there with a couple of other families. No idea where though!

And hello everyone else! The rest of our day went well too. Both boys were little diamonds. Just chilling now for a bit with dh...

MulledwineandJ2O · 02/01/2008 22:00

mupet you're doing so well, try and stick at it if you can {{supportive mode}} you could always give a bedtime botle of ff, sorry if you've already been through all this, hven't manage to keep up very well.

i put the laptop on top of the oven while i was having a cig and knocked the hotplate nob off the oven, but just thought i'd pick it up in a minute, then i heard sizling, couldn't work out what it was, then the computer blew up cos the hotplate had come on and i hdn't realised, am hoping that my insrance will oblige! it'll only work plugged in now, the battery is totally melted!

right i'm ff again xx

muppetgirl · 03/01/2008 09:15

Well,

Henry had a bottle at 10pm as usual and woke around 2.30am (half hour earlier than usual ) So i just left him for a bit as he wasn't really crying, just making noise. He went back to sleep around 2.50am ish and slept till 4.40am. Yippeeee!!! So he slept form 8.30 - 4.40am with a dream feed at 10pm.

Dh and I were talking about things last night and I think I was jumping to feed Henry as soon as he stirred and maybe I just needed to leave him for a bit longer to see if he actually did need feeding or he was just stirring. I'm paranoid that he's going to wake DH up or Oliver. I actually dozed on the stairs last night whilst he was deciding whether to wake up or not!!!

He woke up around 8.15am this morning but wasn't really in the mood to feed but did around 8.30 and has now gone back to sleep!

We have friends round for lunch and no food in and the fridge man has just turned up to mend the wine cooler....

Sods law or what as the friends are arriving at 10am....

Stefka · 03/01/2008 09:31

I know what you mean muppetgirl - sometimes Dareh just makes a load of noise and I think he is waking up but he goes back to sleep.

He didn't sleep until 2.20pm last night. Woke up at half eight. Fed him and he has gone back to sleep. I honestly don't know what to do with him - I wonder if he has a touch of colic as sometimes when he cries he seems to be in pain. He seems to have had pains in his tummy ever since he had that bloody jab.

alicet · 03/01/2008 09:53

Adam does this too. I think sometimes I wake him when he's just sleeping a bit lighter by sticking my face in his and ramming a dummy in his mouth but when you are half asleep you don't think about it until its too late do you!?

I am thinking of putting him in his own room for exactly this reason - at least then we will only wake when he is properly awake and needs something

MrsFish · 03/01/2008 09:55

Morning all..

Not good this morning, not only has my stinking cold come back full force, I have a sore eye and have pulled the muscle in my shoulder so it hurts to move/lift Ben, god knows how I managed to get Sam to nursery this morning. Also my ears keep getting blocked and I didn't get much sleep either I was up twice with Ben and twice with Sam. Sam decided he didn't want to wear a nappy last night, so because he has been dry for the last 5 night I obliged. You guessed it... 3am this morning hysterical crying because he had wet himself, I guess that's how I did my shoulder, turning the blasted mattress over. I am going to try and have a relaxing day today and try and shift this damned cold. Although there is loads of stuff to do...

alicet · 03/01/2008 10:01

MrsFish sorry you have had such a crap night and hope you manage to relax today. Sod all the stuff you have to do.

greedygreedyguzzler · 03/01/2008 10:02

happy new year! belated again!!! these school hols are hectic with the three of them at home all the time!!! fun though! just no time for MN!!!

our new years eve was a disaster!!! we were supposed to be having a dinner party but ds and dd1 got a sickness bug so we had to cancel. i was gutted as i had been looking forward to it, but we are recreating it in 2 weeks time instead!

ellensmelons - good plan to go for it with no.2!!! we wanted this baby closer to dd1 but took 9 months to concieve after only taking 1 month with dd1. so you just never know and if you feel ready then why not go for it!!! like alice said, its nice having them close together................my oldest two are 17mths apart and are currently in the playroom playing 'witches and doctors' together!!!

marcy was a star last night and slept from 7pm till 6am. we thought we would just not bother waking her up at 10.30pm and see how long she went and she didnt wake up till 6am! i know i cant possibly be that lucky again tonight, but fingers crossed!

whoever asked about routines..........my dd1 was in a routine from about 2 wks and marcy is kind of in a routine. she has been for the past two weeks with no school or nursery runs to do anyway.

mrsfish - when i potty trained both ds and dd1 they started waking up for a wee in the night, so i just cut right back on their milk before bed and only gave them a little dribble. i didnt let them drink too much with their dinner either and they both do a wee last thing before going to bed and then dont need another till the morning, and they were dry at night in no time. (although i still havent been brave enough to take dd1 out of her pull ups at night even though she has been dry for about 6 months!!! i just hate the thought of a wet bed if she did have an accident!) i have got friends that told their kids to go in their nappies cos they didnt want to keep getting up to them and then they started wetting themselves during the day and still arent dry at night.

ok...better go and play with the kids.....its dinosaurs and princesses now!!!...............what is it with little girls and dressing up hey???!!

ejt1764 · 03/01/2008 10:17

spooky or what, was just talking to dh this morning and saying that I think I feed Mairwen too readilyin the night ...

Rhydian is still home - schools in Cardiff go back today, but the Vale, not til Monday - and he is on INSET that day, so we're going to do something nice ...

He is mithering as his friends are coming round today - better go ...

PolarMummy · 03/01/2008 10:18

Just found out that I have to take Zoe for her second set of jabs this afternoon hate having to do it even though I know its for the best, I feel really mean

alicet · 03/01/2008 10:25

Good luck Polar - know what you mean! if its any consolation Adam was absolutely distraught after the first set and unsettled for about 3 days after but after the second lot he barely turned a hair. Try giving her calpol before you go

PolarMummy · 03/01/2008 10:31

Thanks alice, Zoe was fine after her first set didn't phase her at all (after the initial shock of getting them obviously) so hoping she will be the same after these

WinnieThePooh · 03/01/2008 11:09

I don't have a daytime routine with Shula, I feed or on demand.

Last night I changed her nappy at 7.30 and put her in a Sandy's thinking that I would put the tots bots on about 9.30 before putting her to bed.Wen she fell asleep at 9pm I just put her in her bed as I did not want to wake her. I thought she might wake when I went to bed about 11pm, but she was still asleep. When I got up to the toilet at 1ma her eyes were open, but she was moving about so much that the rocking and bouncing motion of her Amby Nest sent her back to sleep. She slept until DP got up at 6.30 this morning. I fed her and she went back to sleep until 8am.

ellensmelons · 03/01/2008 11:11

Thanks GGG - that's exactly what i'd like for them - both to feel close enough agewise to play smilar games and share friends from school. I know it'll be tough at first, but then easier later (?!).

BTW dd now 12 weeks (jabs yesterday PolarM where she screamed for a second then smiled at the nurse. Strange creature!). Any advice on posseting? She does it constantly - upright, flat, at an angle. Not in her sleep tho. End up changing her 3/4 times a day. Don't think she drinks too much, altho she does take 7/8 oz at a time.. Could it be the formula? She's on SMA. Friend of mine says to change it but will it upset her?

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AnyasMum07 · 03/01/2008 12:19

Anya passed her hearing test this morning. She was a bit tired by the time they called us in and was crying a little so we had to give her her dummy to settle her. She then dozed but was still sucking gently - the machine was so sensitive that her sucky noises were disrupting the test! Even when we prised the dummy out it was still picking up her breathing, so it took ages, but we got all the green lights in the end.

We have to go back for a 'distraction test' when she's 7 months - that's to see if she reacts to squeaky toys - quite frankly she could pass that now. Then she needs to be tested every few months to make sure she doesn't develop any middle-ear problems. Ho hum.

ejt - gorgeous poem. Must still be a hormonal, it made me a bit weepy.

j2o - at the laptop on the oven - that's the kind of thing I do. Hope you get it sorted. Rolling from front to back apparently comes after rolling from back to front as it's harder (I would have thought the other way round? but never mind). Rolling from back to front happens at about 5 months on average.

Alicet - like the picnic idea - might try that soon as Anya's getting better at a routine. We've not done anything romantic for ages but dh seems less depressed lately (thank goodness) so it would be nice to do something like that.

Inzi - we used a dummy from quite early but we only use it as a sleep aid. It helps a lot as she's not very good at getting herself to sleep during the day and gets frustrated - the dummy instantly soothes her (unless she's past a point of no return!). It's also quite a useful way of telling when she's properly asleep and it's safe to creep out of the room - if the dummy falls out and she doesn't stir then she's not going to wake up in 5 minutes time.

alicet · 03/01/2008 14:35

Anyasmum great news about the hearing test! One more to tick off your list . Is your dh doing OK? Is he depressed because of Anya's diagnosis or just struggling with parenthood in general? Sorry hope you don't think I'm being too intrusive. Just that my dh has really strugled both times we've had our boys and has taken ages to bond so I know a bit of how you feel (I think!). It makes it a bit harder for you doesn't it as you feel you have to b extra strong when sometimes you want to be able to fall over too. Dh is still a wonderful support and is there for me when I need him so I am certainly not having a pop at him. Just a little extra challenge at the mo!

Inzi we use a dummy too and it really helps to settle Adam and also to stretch out the time between feeds although we don't need to do that so much anymore. Didn't with Sam but he wouldn't take it anyway.

Its snowijng like mad here too! Went out when it started to clear for lunch with my friends. Had the pram but Adam was in the hugabub on the way home when it started to chuck it down. We were only a few minutes away so rather than mess about getting him back in the pram I put my jumper over his head and ran!!! Must try and find a better solution than that for next time! OK when no pram as an umbrella works fine but not when trying to push a pram weighed down with shopping!!! Hoping the weather doesn't mean that dh is stranded in London - he's there today but was hoping to be back by 6. No chance for that I'm sure - we Brits don't seem to be able to cope with a few snow flakes very well!

muppetgirl · 03/01/2008 14:37

Mrs Fish - So sorry your cold has come back in full force. It's pants atm with all this flu/cold stuff going round.

Re the potty trainning we cut back on Ollie's evening drinks and that helped with the night wetting. We also had a full set of bedding all set out, including pj's, in the airing cupboard and Dh and I took either the bed or the boy to sort out! It only happened 3/4 times in the first week, a couple in the second and he's been fine ever since. He now gets up at night when he needs a wee but we still have to help him with poos.

Ejt - I think I am jumping too soon into feeding him and although I am tired today from the waiting to see and snoozing on the stairs -haven't done that since I was a drunen student! I put him to bed around 10 and he slept for about and hour then I bottle fed him at 11.15 and he took 6oz and then he's been in bed since 1.10. I've just gone into his room and opened the curtains but he's still asleep so I'm going to leave him till 3.

I even managed to do a bit of crotcheting last night!!!

x

muppetgirl · 03/01/2008 14:41

I want snow!!!!

Dh keeps ringing me as he's so excited!!

Inzi - we used a dummy for Oliver, what a lifesaver it was. Henry spits it out unfortunately...

Anyasmum -Great news about the hearing test

My DH was depressed after having OLiver (we both were) but this time round he is so confident it's wonderful to see. He knows exactly what to do and is being a tower of strength to me especially when it comes to Oliver. Ollie is still being challenging but more in a precocious way rather than defiant. Dh and he have 'daddy' time of 'grr-ness' that involves rolling around on the floor playfighting, bouncing on beds, swimming, football etc. This is helping...

strawberrylace · 03/01/2008 14:55

sorry to hear that so many of you are feeling poorly - hoping you are feeling better soon.

No snow here in east anglia yet, but at least this year i don't mind if it does snow as i won't have to go out in it. also, when i was working i used to dread snow, as schools would all shut, and i used to have to defend this decision to the local media - which was annoying because by 9am the snow would all have melted and there was no reason for the schools to have shut! of course, now it probably won't snow here all winter, and we will have an unfeasibly cold snap when i go back to work in June....

Took olly to see some of the people i used to work with today - he was an angel, and smiled and cooed as he was passed around, and then passed out asleep with minimal fuss. he is now sleeping in his swing, and i am putting off doing the tidying up i need to do in favour of reading the mumsnet messages.

Dalrymps · 03/01/2008 17:52

Hey everyone, ds has gone down for a nap but not sure how long for so this could end suddenly...
Had a nice NYE, went to PIL's and watched the life of brian, had buffet type snacks and i had 2 half glasses of wine mixed with lemonade (was driving back cause been bf more anyway so didn't want to drink too much). Just had a lovely relaxed evening although ds was a bit unsettled on and off, not sure why but even when he's unsettled he's such an angel, even his cries are sweet . We counted in the new year and afterwards I got a bit emotional, just stood there holding ds thinking what a wonderful gift he was and how amazing it was that he was ours! The best new years ever imo, I feel so blessed...
Yeah i've been thinking about the fact this time last year ds wasn't even concieved, I don't know the actual date he was as we wern't actually trying, well we were kind of tempting fate and seeing what happened whilst not actually ever saying 'right, we'll try now'... we really wanted him but were trying to hold off actively trying for a few months till we'd moved house, anyway we were less carefull than usual, acidentally on purpose and..oops . What is lovely is that i found out i was pregnant on valentines day so it'll be extra special this year!
I also agree with all of you who have said so that i'm happy to have 'met' you all here on this thread, you have all made my experiences as a first time mum a lot less stressfull and a lot less lonely than it would have been, i feel so close to all of you and love the way we can talk about absolutely anything without feeling embarrased or judged, you are all fab and brilliant mummys too!
Dylan had his first jabs yesterday, the poor little mite, he was all snoozy and just waking when she put the needle in, he cried but not for long and no ill effects so far .
J20 - sorry you melted your laptop, although it is a funny storey, glad i haven't done that with mine, it's only a couple of months old! Hope your insurance pays out! I too feel like i can't drag myself out of bed some days, don't think it helps being winter and having the dark mornings, some days i'm better than others though, don't know why that is?
GGG - your lo's sound like they play some exciting games, i wanna join in! can't wait till ds is that age so i can act silly with him!
inzi - hope your cold gets better soon
nellie - hope your lo's cold clears up soon
ejt - that massage sounds amazing, i've never had a professional massage of any sort but really fancy it
alice - sorry you felt stressed, glad you feel a bit better now, i get like that quite often, dh helps a lot when he's here then i feel like i can't cope when he's not, always do though!
mrsf - hope the weight loss thing goes ok, i have the opposite problem, well, sort of, i didn't put a lot on and lost it straight away but am now in danger of putting loads on cause i've become obsessed with food as i haven't got enough time to eat it so when i get a chance to eat i totally stuff my face, been eating far too much chocolate and never used to eat it that much, i've nearly eaten a whole cadburys selection box today... help, i'm out of control!
strawberry - yeah i much prefer spring/summer to winter, i mean, i love xmas and all that but the dark nights can be really depressing, especially if you don't get up early enough then it's just dark in a few hours and you feel lke you've lost the day, can't wait to take lo out for long walks when it's sunny and to the beach etc
ellens - wow, i really admire you going for number 2 already! i secretly can't wait for the next one but i think dh will want to wait a bit longer than i do cause he worries about money a lot and he's not too happy in his current job so will want to be more secure/settled before number 2, i don't want the next one right now but maybe in a year or two, keep thinking about having a few running about and playing with each other, will be so cute, will be so exciting when you concieve number 2, keep us updated!
polar - glad to hear lo had a good night, hope it continues
stef - sorry you're having trouble getting lo off to sleep, you tried white noise? we used to hold ds near the cooker hood and the sound used to help him drop off, things like an untuned radio/tv are supposed to work also, you've probably already tried it but only suggetion i could think of? Hows the feeding going? any better at all? i'm slowly picking up the pace with the bf again, been doing just about every other feed for last 4/5 days, just trying to take one day at a time cause everytime i get excited and think i've cracked it i get sore agian, no soreness yet this time so fingers crossed, if i manage to get back to full time bf i will be elated, think i'll feel like i've climbed a mountain... although have to say i've had it nowhere near as tough as you!
anyasmum - i've hears that too, that the first 3 months are the hardest, here's hoping. I think i agree, especially the first 6 weeks in particular... like walking through treacle... in fact i just felt like i was at that bit at teh end of 'Gladiators' - the tv gameshow, where they have to run up a conveyor belt and keep falling down, that was the first 4-6 weeks for me - i can look back and laugh, now
apricott - sounds like you had a lovely NYE, whicj i could stay somewhere with heated floors - bliss
choc- i have same probs with managing to eat, as i said ealier, i either have no time to or just totally stuff my face with junk!
my dh has bought me a load of ready meals so i can at least try and eat something instead of surviving all day on crunchy nut cornflakes.
muppet - i am currently ff and bf, it's a bi of a juggling act isn't it? a lot of the time i feel ds hasn't got enough from me but i'm still building my supply up after stopping, way i see it, as long as he's getting some bm it's better than no bm, do you feel like your lo isn't full enough every evening or just sometimes? could jut be growing and feeding more to stimulate your supply? dunno really, my ds bf for a total of 2 and a half hours this morning, good job i had no place to go, he must have thought 'you're not going anywhere till i get what i want', sometimes it is difficult having the responsibility of feeding them, really felt that when was exclusively bf but as am doing mixed at the moment am slowly getting my head round it and trying to get back to bf only if i can, who knows though?
By the way i'm gettin a bit sick of my mama's and papas ziko buggy, anyone got a jane or loola one that can tell me what they're like cause considering getting something different, needs to face both ways and fold up small, also needs to have good access to the shopping basket bit? any advice welcome
I'm gonna go try eat something now cause amazingly ds is still asleep - hooray, hi to anyone i have forgotten and catch ya soon

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muppetgirl · 03/01/2008 18:03

Hi all!

Henry is lying on his change mat with two helium balloons above him that are nearly out of helium. They are near the radiator so when they heat up they rise and then cool and fall. He is fascinated by this! One is silver and catches the light and the other is deep blue so he can see it vividly.

He's wiggling his legs and arms like billiyo!

WEAR YOURSELF OUT CHILD!!!!

EmMcK · 03/01/2008 18:31

Hello all, very about all these marathon sleepers that have appeared. Joseph had taken to sleeping from anout 7.00pm until about 2.00am which was lovely and meant I could have time with dh AND sleep, but has stopped doing that. He is now awake about 4 times a night. I am using a dummy and white noise and it settles him right back down but since he just doesn't sleep in the day, I am feeling pretty ragged.
DH is leaving on Saturday for the US for work for a week and I am already feeling pretty nervous. It is just the idea that I won't have anyone to hand him over to when I am shattered at the end of the day. Silly I know as so many women do this by themselves all the time. I have arranged to meet lots of friends next week, and to try baby yoga and buggy fit, so will see lots of adults but am afraid there will be tears, and they won't be Joseph's.
We have some friends coming over tonight for thai takeaways and I shall have a huge glass of wine. That'll help!