August 2007 - milk, mash or puree - take your pick and take cover!

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James - sorry, couldn't wait any longer... hope my link works...

hello! hope everyone enjoyed the meet up yesterday?!

we made the most of the sunshine and went for a long walk with one of my mum and baby friends. very excited because trying out my new bumgenius nappies today. so far so good. will invest in more once i see how they go over the next couple of days. was always determined to use reusables but the ones i've tried haven't been great so have used more disposables than i wanted to. have high hopes for these though!

dd is desperately trying to crawl. gets in the right position and everything but can't quite coordinate yet. she's moving more like a caterpillar. already scarily mobile. crept up on me and bit my big toe while i was on the laptop. her teeth are bloody sharp!

went to work monday. still no news on part timie front......getting very frustrated. nearly finished the application form for the other job though so will have to see what happens.

hope everyone is having a good week x

James, no accidental words from Liam yet, but you've reminded me of ds1's first words. First word was 'ba' which he said incessantly. Then moved on to his second word - 'ga'. Which again he said over and over again. Then, while in a queue in mothercare, my clever little boy strung his first 2 words together to make a new one; very loudly and very repetitively he said 'baga, baagaa, buggaa, bugger, bugger ......'
Eight years later he still won't shut up.

woo @ leifmums creepy crawly, and lol @ kinki's little baga!

He said poo again this morning, I know it's a coincidence though, it's because he's constantly blowing raspberrys with his lips iyswim, and sometimes the raspberries don't quite form, so it comes out as a "pooo" instead. So to speak!

J is tucked up on the sofa with a warm hot water bottle as he got a bit chilly playing on the floor and I had a sudden pfb moment and imagined him getting pneumonia.

Again, not much time to post, busy training in the new job and need to get the house done, dad over tonight, new friend over tomorrow and it looks like a bombsite. My kingdom for a cleaner...

hello - just a quick post from me too.

kinki my dd1 loved to shout bugger too (seemingly i did too then moved onto 'feckin' which i learned from an irish neighbour!!)

dd2 blethers ALL the time! she's doing dadagagdagaba's just now. dd1 thinks she said dd1s name (which is Ailsa, so probablt not ).

leifmum was your ds an early crawler?

going into work tomorrow to find out what my options are - not looking forward to it, makes it more real that it's april that i'll be going back )

off to pick up dd1

sorry leifmum - getting confused you don't have a ds

Lexie doesn't shut up she is making noises/talking all the time. Seems to say ooh alot and this week she has discovered how to shout.

She not quite crawling she get her bum up then shuffles along so she hasfew carpet burns on her chin.

Have just got out lizzie babywalker and she can move that around so she is bit happier.

We have also have had some improvement with her feeding she is now having a 6oz bottle every 4 hours and some lunch at 12 and a supper at 4pm.

hello. Had a nice day. Made some cakes with dd (which i almost burned ) and then we came to fil's. We went to a country park with fil, his partner and her dad who's staying. Dd has been really good. We're staying for dinner so it can't be bad.

The meetup was good fun. We went to the cafe in John Lewis and stayed there for a couple of hours I think. All three needed feeding at different times. We definitely got our money's worth. Kinki - no worries about not coming - sounds like you've got your hands full. I'll be coming up to Maidstone next time so it won't be a problem if you've only got a couple of hours to spare.

tasha - no word on the doula thing yet. I might phone up to find out what's happening soon. The dcs are a lot better now. Ds is still a bit clingy but he slept a lot better last night. He's eating much better too.

james - they say the pregnancy causes the saggy boobs, not bf. I guess it's because they grow so big and so quickly. How is the diet going?

leifmum - ds is doing something similar. He can push his chest up and he can bring his knees up under him but not at the same time. He doesn't like staying on his front for long cos he can't get anywhere.

I feel for all those going back to work soon. It must be a lot harder for you now as you've spent a lot more time with your babies.

leifmum - what wraps are you using? and what problems have you had with the other nappies you've tried? If it's leaking then have you tried motherease airflow wraps? I wouldn't use anything else, no matter what nappy is under they don't ever seem to leak.

hi loler! the ones i've only really tried are the mothercare smart nappy system. i found they were quite uncomfortable around her legs, left big red marks and seemed to be totally soaked through, including the wrap part after not much longer than an hour. to be fair they do come in different sizes and as she's got bigger they've been less effective but i didn't feel so happy with them that i wanted to invest in the next size up. i know it's only day 2 but the bumgenius ones do seem great. much softer, slimmer, cuter but i know that shouldn't matter, and last as loong as a disposable. just working out now whether i can afford to buy more! i know in the long run it will be cheaper but paying up front is never nice!

well we've had busy day. dh brought me croissants in bed for breakfast which were then shared with dd! then had our second swimming lesson. so sweet seeing her kicking away! then she shared my lunch of ham and mozarella panini and salad. went down well but she was so tired after swimming she only had 3 ozs of her bottle before falling asleep! then met up with some friends for coffee and dd shared my teacake for tea. she loved it!

she's now in bed refusing to sleep but we'll see how she goes. dh home late tonight. think i shouyld maybe put something sexy on and get romantic with him....it's been a while iykwim. just not really in the mood.....not sure i ever will be again!!!!

Hi everyone. You've had a busy day leifmum! Hope dd settled down for you. Swimming always makes my lot really sleepy, they're always knackered afterwards.

Glad you had a good time the other day Gill. Turns out that ds1 was at school afterall, but I've since come down with something. I'm back on antibiotics for another chest infection. So I'm glad I wasn't with you, breathing my 'orrible germs all over your lovely babies. If you're in maidstone next time, count me in. Promise I won't faff around as much!!!!!

Hope your trip to work went ok My2wee. I only work one day a week and I'm not looking forward to going back either. Never mind doing more than 1 day. I'm off until May, but I said I'll do some keeping in touch days before then when I'm in better health. Now that screw is out of my lung I am feeling a squillion times better, but now I want to rest and enjoy some time off. They phone me every week asking when I'm coming back.

I went to see the hv today, been meaning to for a while. Turns out ds has dropped several centiles. He's just above 0.4th, or just above the 2nd with his adjusted age. Last time he was weighed he was just above the 50th (adjusted age). So the hv wasn't happy with me. Wanted to know why it's been so long since I took him. Oh ffs, why do they go on flapping. He's a small baby that's all. His brothers were the same, and they've turned out to be decent sizes. Liam is currently 13oz 1oz which is just a tiny bit smaller than ds1&2 were at the same age. I've got to start weaning now, and bring him back in a month's time. If there's not a significant weight gain then she's going to refer him. I'm not going to let it bother me, but I'm annoyed how hvs put so much pressure on.

Hey pinkranger, are you in the same position as me? They've taken away the hv from my gp surgery so I have to go into town to see one. Bloody pain in the arse that is. Nearly got a parking ticket too. Had to sell my soul to a parking warden to get away with it. It's really stupid that they've taken the hv away from the community. Have been told I can see one in allington instead of going into town. Apparently it's easier to park there.

Morning all [yawn] Ds actually slept through last night without even waking once for his dummy He's much better now and back to his happy little self. Maybe it's because his first tooth is finally through. It's not where I expected it to be though. Several teeth are just under the gum and there are lots of white lumps so who knows where the next one will turn up.

Tried ds with mashed veg the last couple of days and he didn't gag on the lumps. So, when I gave him banana I didn't bother mashing it, I just gave him fairly big lumps and he was fine.

We're going swimming today. It will be ds's first time and I bet he's going to love it. He splashes so much in the bath that everything gets covered in water.

Kinki, I agree you're right not to worry too much. I just checked dd's red book. She was 13lb 12oz at 21 weeks and 15lb 2oz at 28 weeks so not much bigger than your ds. She was full term and just a small baby. I started weaning slowly at 26 weeks and never had any concerns from hvs. Will definitely sort out another meetup within the next couple of months. I'll let you know. Hope you feel better soon.

Hi folks, sorry I haven't been around much, been so busy and not feeling myself really. It's dp's birthday today so we're off down to his friends tonight followed by mils saturday til sunday. Not in the mood at all. Might take some kalms with me to get through it, I find it all so stressful.

Lo's sleep has been weird the past week or two and he's been waking up several times in the night, every night I get less than 4 hours sleep so I'm just exhausted all day every day. Plus I've been burning the candle at both ends trying to get the house done in the day and work done at night, and James is a full time job in himself, he's still crying as soon as I leave the room and I still get no time off ever.

I had to listen to him grumble and cry constantly yesterday while I tried to get some cleaning done, but I just had so much to do I had to get on and leave him to it, and just come back in when it turned into real crying. I'm finding myself getting more and more annoyed by the grumbling noises he makes (it's a straining sort of noise as if someone is holding him tightly and he's trying to break free iyswim?) he does it all the time.

He's also discovered how to shout and scream, so sometimes the grunts turn into a full scale prolonged bellow and my natural impulse is to tell him off, but I know there's no point and he'd only wonder why I was annoyed with him. I mean, there's no reasoning with a 6 month old! And I don't want to make him sad or even scared by shouting at him.

The sink is full of dishes, I haven't got anything to wear, I need a shower and I'll have to pack everything for all three of us, we're supposed to be leaving in an hour. it's not going to happen, I'm just too tired and I don't care.

Just needed a vent! sorry! Back sunday x

banana - The crying when you leave thing gets much easier when they can move (it just turns into them following you about!). I know it seems really annoying now but it really won't last forever and it will be a blink of an eye until they won't want to spend time with us! Forgot the house it doesn't matter! Got a good poem somewhere that says it well - will dig it out.

Went and had a lovely afternoon out (halfterm here so dd off school) - all ruined by ds1 having a major paddy about which car seat he wanted to sit in - lasted over half an hour. Wasn't going to give in but inthe end I did as needed to feed ds2 who was also screaming. Would love to have seen the super nanny deal with that one!

Found it:

I hope when my children look back on today
They'll remember a mother who had time to play.
There will be years for cleaning and cooking
But children grow up while we're not looking.
Dusting and scrubbing can wait 'till tomorrow
For babies grow fast we learn to our sorrow.
So quiet down cobwebs and dust go to sleep
I'm rocking my baby and babies don't keep.

not sure if im gonna be able to catck up here but ill do my best
elenor, how are ya?!what have you been up to?(hoping i havent missed a post before) hows lo getting on? dont worrie about dp, he wouldnt actually have done anything? my dp is always getting frustrated with the kids and i end up telling him off like a child although thats not great parenting so dont take a leaf outa my book was he sorry after?
loler, what a great poem have jotted it down and it will be stuck to my fridge shortly so if anybody happens to pop round and my house is a tip ill point to it its so true though already when i look back at baby pics of ds1 and even ds2 it just all went so fast.....ds3 is def not though still in 0-3 month clothes! oh tell me about it i think suppernanny would be well outa her depths here!!
James, dont get too stressed theres no point (easier said i know) have a good time!
gill, very good on the first tooth and full
nights sleep
kinki agree completely lo has another checkup on wed even though she seemed alot happier with his weight last wed they just like to ....not sure what thee word is but you know what i mean..
leifmum lucky you breakfast in bed! can i give your dh my dp's number? my lo has started being able so do the slug thingy too but nothing like your lo.
hes also started rolling and compleletly sympathise with you gill as the last couple of nights he has rolled from his belly to his back and cant get over again(sleeps on belly) cant remember what else i was gonna say but think this post is long enough

I've been lurking & reading for a bit now as my ds2 was born on 1st Aug -avoiding his brothers birthday the day b4 by 1hr 56mins!. I hope you don't mind me just jumping in. I have 3 kids ds1 6, dd 3 & ds2 6months
ds2 is still exclusively bf, but is showing an interest now in our food so we are just letting him grab veggies & fruit etc off our plates.
no teeth yet, but they are right there waiting to erupt, & no sign of crawling - he just managed to roll this last week. however if i hold his hands he makes an effort to walk & always prefers to be upright rather than sitting! but with polly pocket shoes & micromachines everywhere I am praying for plankable baby for as long as possible!

Kinki - dont get too stressed about weight - & keep in mind that milk has far more calories in it than the amount of real food your ds would be eating. so weaning wouldn't see your ds necessarily gain anyweight.
I would say maybe up the feeds a bit perhaps? is he feeding any less than before? are they measuring him on the bf charts?

leifmum - I'd recommend the motherease air flow wraps too - those in combination with totsbots make for a bomb proof, powerwee proof nappy on my ds2!

I think I need another week off to get over my week off work. Ds was ill the first half and dh hurt his back on wednesday. So I've not had one lay in and I've had to do everything with the kids and I've been really stressed. If it was me who'd hurt my back dh would still expect to have his extra sleep and I'd still have to do most of the work with the kids.

Ds decided to get up at 5:30 this morning Dh said he would try and get me another hour in bed later - how kind of him

Hope things get better for you soon James. My dd was exactly like that at this age and it was difficult to get anything done. I just had to resign myself to having an untidy house or tell dh to do it himself if he moaned. I hate walking past a counter full of washing up but I also hate spending all my time in the kitchen and no time with the kids. How was the weekend?

Didn't get to take ds swimming after all. Dh couldn't come with us and dd was really looking forward to it so I took ds to mum's while I went with dd. It was really good fun.

I like that poem loler. I might print that out too.

tasha - I just put ds on his tummy straight away when I put him to bed now. He always ends up there anyway and settles better. It saves time running up and down the stairs.

Welcome bogwoppit. We don't mind at all, we like having new people joining us. Well done on the exclusive bf. A lot of us have been weaning for 1-2 months already. I know what you mean about little bits on the floor. Dd was making a bead necklace yesterday and I was so worried one would get left on the floor and ds choke on it.

Made a cheesy cod potato broccoli mixture for ds last night. The cod exploded in the microwave and I put the flour in with the butter before it melted (idiot). Dh had to rescue me and make the cheese sauce before I destroyed the kitchen. It turned out alright in the end. I hope he likes it.

Welcom bogwoppit.

I have 2 dd's Lizzie just 4yrs and Lexie 23wks. I have beening weaning her for about 3wks as she doesn't like Milk (a bit of a disavantage for a baby ).

She has 2 teeth at the bottom which are ready to erupt at anytime.

welcome Bogwoppit i have 3 ds's 3.4, 1.4 and 5 and half months. started weaning lo and hes doing well, no teath yet but chomping on his hands. he likes to be on his feet more too.

why does my life have to be so bloody complicated i have dp moaning about ds1 going to see his dad and nan every saturday. last week his nan asked me if he could go away with her on sunday this week instead i agreed and forgot about it until his nan phoned me yesterday to remind me then asked if she could take him at 10.30 rather than 1.30 i said no problem and forgot to tell dp till thismorning dp starts argueing with me saying hes stuck in the middle i say no im stuck in the middle he says thats the problem you should be on my side i say no im in ds1s side and i couldnt stop him seeing a family that loves him and he loves so he huffed saying in didnt care about his feelings i said i do its just a bit hard to be symathetic when your argueing with me.
i dont understand i mean i know its hard for him but it was hard for me too when my ex was sending the woman he left me for to pick my baby up every week but i just kept thinking i have to do whaats best for ds1 so why cant he?
then my dad phones and says hes givve up with my brother... my dad left us at 4 and 6 and we never heard from him for a couple of years then he came back and went again without saying he let us down allot but when he finally wanted back in our lives i forgave him but my brother couldnt. its his birthday on tuesday but dad isnt going to send him anything.
my past is really depressing me today i just wish i could get a few things out of my head that happened but the more i try the more i think its not good
ok thats me typing it all down makes me feel a little better sorry to bore you all with that.

james hope you had a good weekend.
gill my wee man is the opposit he sleeps on his belly but rolls onto his back.
hope everyone had a good weekend

missed allot of full stops in that

was feeling down earlier and thinking things i shouldnt have been but im grand now im meeting up with a mum tomorrow she has a wee boy and a wee girl at age 2 and 8months and she is coming here for a cuppa better get the house tidied...ive got that poem on my fridge

I'm just lazy & am putting it off as long as I can!

beads & necklaces are a pain Gill - dd has had 2 in the last week where the elastic snapped & i've had to hunt all over to make sure there are no escapees.
I hope the cod went down well after all that!

James - hope the weekend was ok & you got a little rest. ds2 is a placid boy only cries when really tired or hungry. dd however was a different kettle of fish, & stillnow can scream at the most irritating pitch. I sometimes shove ds2 in his sling to get jobs done. i'm lucky tho - dh does the dishes my most hated chore. I do the diy!

I'm looking foward to tomorrow - ds1 & dd back @ school/nursery!

hello everyone! sounds like people have generally had a few low days and i'm joining you! went to my mum and dad's for the weekend and it wasn't the best. normally get on well with my mum but we were both tired for various reasons, dd refuses to sleep during the day if we're not at home and it ends in guaranteed meltdown and it just felt like we were more of a hindrance than welcome visitors. i know that's not the case and it's more that we both like our own space. just a shame because we were there because it's my b'day tomorrow but in the end i just couldn't wait to get home!

tomorrow we're off to yorkshire to visit the inlaws for a couple of days. not really looking forward to it because of more disruption to dd. has to be done though!

on the way home today we popped round to new house to see if any more work's been done. the wall lights are up, garden gate's on, kitchen's been finished off so things definitely happening. hope we get an estimated date this week. getting excited now!

loler that's a fab poem. will definitely do like tasha, write it out and stick it somewhere prominent!

welcome bogwoppit!

Welcome to the thread bogwoppit! James has up to now been very placid, I think the straining sounds is perhaps him getting bored and frustrated. Not much I can do about it right now I'm stretched too thin.

Weekend was ok, my sil (the one I had the most problem with) was giving me a wide berth which I suppose she thought would upset me, but meant we had a mostly stress free time- hah! I didn't exactly have fun but it wasn't bad either so can't complain.

Had the worst nights sleep ever though last night as we were freezing and didn't have enough bedding so I ended up being awake all night shivering. Didn't help that J kept kicking off his covers and then waking up cold and crying- he did this about seven times!

I think someone stole my purse in tesco today so just had to cancel my cards, and will need a new housekey cut which is a bit of a bummer.

Thanks for the poem loler, I'll bear it in mind but I've got my landlord coming next weekend to check the boiler so I need to get the house done from top to bottom. This is just what I don't need, I'm busy enough as it is with the regular housework, and now I have to start treating mould and polyfilla-ing and magnolia painting and carpet cleaning (he's the type to take money off your deposit for professional carpet cleaners etc) I don't need it!

I need to do as much work as possible this week as my maternity money is now finished, and I need to get some things sold on ebay to help bridge the gap. All takes time and all needs to be done by me, while James whinges.

Needless to say, my diet has gone to shit. Bah.

James is now is 9-12 month babygrows and trousers. I have no idea why unless I'm making blindingly obvious mistakes, and I'm scared of seeing my hv.

I'm freezing and I need my bed so haven't read the thread in depth. Tasha I hope you're ok you sounded quite down about all your family stuff. Men, eh? How's your lo doing now? Gill your week off sounds like it was hard, hope you're catching up on sleep now.

Goodnight all x