April 2007 - It's a minefield out there, nipple tassles on every corner......

[PillockOfTheCommunity]

ha ha ha ha ha

this and this

both on GMM's christmas list

lol if off to bed - could carry on decorating but....... probably not such a good idea - catch you all tomorrow

Arse just wrote a long post and it got lost

Thanks everyone for your comments about Izzy's weight, especially Pinions I think I understand what you were saying and yes Dad is a real reverend honestly they are generally just normal people, hope the meeting goes well. Great name and pics on your profile.

NL - Praying that the redunancy turns into a positive situation.

Nutty - Great about the gorgeous nappy from the nappy fairy.

Pesha - Be thinking of you tomorrow, hope the new jobs go well.

Football widow here tonight Have been watching I'm a celebrity...

Another one here who'll put Christmas dec/lights up on the 1st...I'm such a kid

GMM - Glad to hear Christopher? is doing ok. Wow 1lb 9oz that's really tiny!

Maveta - Sorry about your weekend plans. It's a difficult decision to make and no you're not pathetic. I agree with everyone else. If you're not sure about leaving him, then don't, but if a bit of you wants to go and spend some time with DH, then go. Only you can make the decision.

Pinions - the headaches could be hormone changes related to taking the mini pill, I suppose the only way to know for sure though is to stop taking it. I suffered terrible hormonal headaches pre-pregnancy when taking the combined pill.

KHIN - Sorry you're having a bad time. I can't imagine living back with my parents again. Hope the house is finished soon.

LOL NL, sex while being a labourer mmmm

I know now I've typed this essay that there will be a new thread...off to check before I post

I knew it...great title Ellie

hi there folks. greetings from dark and damp ireland. home with the family for a few days - tlc and all that.
sympathies to everyone with bubbas not sleeping. it is a tough time and i really really am hoping it is just a phase for us all.
feel like a crap mum that i cant get her to sleep through the day. 20 mins naps - she goes down after maybe 1hr of trying and wakes cross. arghhhhhhh.
through the night - she gets a feed at 11.30 and i am not feeding her again til 6am. awful times - but - it is getting easier in settling her back to sleep without bf. my body wants to do it but i am so so tired after 7 months of no sleep.
KHIn - was wondering how you were getting on. did yu get those tickets i sent you?
gmm - have a lovely day at luce's. any chnace of a minimeet up?

maveta - dp has let me know that your post arrived. thanks

Hi all

NL, sorry to hear about your dh's job. Hope he finds something else good soon. And SOL's advice on checking he has everything he's entitled to sounds good to me.

KHIN, living at your parents sounds very tough under those circumstances. NL's suggestion made me laugh, but maybe it's worth a try.

Nutty, I'm just imagining your Erin in a few years time when you show her her baby photos in that collection of nappies you have. Hope she'll appreciate it.

Maveta, don't know the answer to your Madrid dilemma but hope you sort it out.

The local meet up I've been trying to get going for months was lovely. 5 mums and 5 babies in an otherwise bizarrely empty back room of a pub in North London's Nappy Valley. Danny was keen to share my lunch - I had fish and chips but I gave him some bits of fish and some pureed peas (yucky to me but was nice to have something extra I could offer him). Hoping we can meet up again in the New Year.

D was very grizzly when we got back though and is awake again now, suffering with his teeth and one of those man-colds.

I've not forgotten everyone else honestly, just can't hold all the details from the previous thread and this is another marathon post as it is.

Take care

omfg
go to sleep
what on earth is going on

has anyone managed to sort out the not sleeping problem?

oh spb not again you poor thing. Not really sorted here, he was up at 10pm, 12am, 4am, 5am, and I´m sure there was one between 12 and 4 I´m forgetting.. but at least tonight he went straight back down after feeding which is an improvement. But who knows? Every night seems different at the moment.. are you feeding when he wakes in the night?

Hi WO! Didn´t realise you were going to Ireland, hope you are having a lovely time with your family. glad the package arrived safe, you never know with the spanish postal system Interesting that you are dropping night feeds.. does C eat quite a bit in the day now? N still doesn´t eat much in the way of solids so until he ups that intake I´m not sure I can cut out any feeds in case he really needs them and isn´t just using them for comfort. Besides, I´m quite lazy and feeding him back to sleep really is just easier for me right now even though in the long run it´s creating a habit.. oh what a minefield.

Elkie glad you had a lovely meet up.. hi oooggs, pesha, pillock, bwi (what a post!) and everyone else.

Thanks for the advice on madrid you big bunch of on-the-fence-sitters Talked it all over with dh last night and he was mortified that I was thinking of not going and has sworn to me that being with N and I will be his absolute 1st priority until the soundcheck at 8pm which is fine because by that time N will be in bed so I´ll just settle down with a book. And if that´s not the case, he is a dead man. (that´s a serene smile..)

Off to get weetabix for n, he is happily plugged into baby einstein, tried to turn it off earlier and how he cried little...um.. what´s the male version of madam?

Forgot to say I really like the sound of those t-shirts aswell dippy - any colour except pink, probably white? age 1 year? Can´t believe we are talking so calmly about clothing for 1 year!

Morning

Right, here goes with what I remember,

I think if I was to wear one of those 'bras' dh would vomit everywhere and at the price jeeze if i had £90 it wouldn't go on some string Now I do sound old

Maveta, glad you sorted out your weekend. It's crap when you think one thing and dh/dp thinks another. And if it were me i'd have left ds&dd with mil and gone on my own I woul've missed them but it does you good to be without them. Well it does me good

Pesha, good luck with the jobs today

KHIN, sounds like an absolute nightmare

erm, that's all i can think of oh and for all the rubbish sleep. I don't comment on sleep in my house for fear of jinxing it and maybe getting pelleted with stones by you lot>

Had a lovely chinese last night with eandh(from on here) and another friend. Was lovely to have a girlie chat/gossip Off out on sat night with my other ladies and can't wait. I think August was the last time we all went out and got merrily drunk. Just have to work out when i'll be able to get ready to go out maybe i'll find 5 mins used to take my time but alas that is no longer allowed

Right, off to think of what the hell I can do to keep little miss not so spotty and most definately not feeling ill, amused for the day

Morning all.

SPB, I am so sorry you had another shit night.

Elkie glad you had a good meet up.

Eddas, ikwym re being good to spend time away from the lo's.

KHIN, what a nightmre you seem to be living atm. Hope things get sorted somehow, soon.

Ok here, although (tmi) I have dreadful period pain which woke me in the night. Typical that both B and K slept. K even slept through the fact that she had done a massive poo which had leaked at the top and soaked through her sleepsuit AND grobag! Bloody Pampers. We have moved to using Tescos' nappies, but not last night sadly. Poor little lamb.

Right, hope everyone is ok. Need to run as time to commence the battle of getting B to get ready for school. See you later. xx

Morning!

Ds seems a bit less wheezy today so hopefully will be Ok at nursery tomorrow.

Pinions - I think the headaches could be pill-related as progesterone can cause headaches. Make sure you're drinking plenty too in case you're mildly dehydrated.

OK - I'm going to risk sounding thoroughly patronising BUT....

WILL ALL YOU FIRST-TIME MUMS STOP REFERRING TO YOURSELVES AS CRAP JUST BECAUSE YOUR BABIES WON'T SLEEP!!!!! You are NOT crap, it is NOT your fault, they're just being babies.

Pants weather again so off to soft-play then a biscuit-making marathon I feel.....

Hello again just popping in for a sec then off to catch 40 winks while N is sleeping I think.. am knackered..

Liath - I´m a first timer but totally agree - I am a marvellous mummy, it´s all dh´s fault that N won´t sleep well

KHIN - forgot to say you have all my sympathy re. the upheaval in your life atm. You are coping really well in difficult circumstances, living with your parents again must be so hard no matter how much you love them..

Eddas - tbh I kind of wish we had arranged to leave N, the thought is very appealing just for the short break with dh but I just feel like I´ve not had any time to get used to the idea iykwim? There´ll be other times.. [hopeful]

Good point, well made Liath. It is hard not to feel like you've broken the baby in some way - but we really haven't.

Morning everyone
LOL at leaky nappy SOL! Hope you're feeling better today.
Your night sounds awful maveta T was only up once, unfortunately it was from 1.30 to 3.30! After going to bed at 11. Glad N has at least started going straight back to sleep.
When are you off to Madrid?
Hi Eddas, NL and anyone else I have overlooked.
Had a horrible night and it wasn't just Stinky. I was full of cold and we are sleeping on a futon at the moment and I just couldn't get comfortable. Oh plus DH was taking up most of the bed, despite the fact he tells me this morning he was awake all night

No time to post but someone remind me later i was going to say something to spb re sleep!!

oh no, this puts my bad night into perspective

thanks Pesha, I hope yiu realise I am waiting for a solution!

spb, it does doesn't it I think part of the reason I try to stay so blah about most things(although I do blow up a fair bit too) is what happened to my mum. It was all so quick it made me realise that you have to live for now I get wound up by dd & ds(although mainly dd) but when I watch them sleeping I always feel bad about shouting/moaning as they are truely the most gorgeous, lovely children. But I would think it's impossible for me to not get wound up at all, tis not my nature

You're right, I do know how lucky I am, and in a few months I'll barely remember these bad nights

I have a theory so humour me, it's probably rubbish but the best my sleep deprived brain has managed!
Who exactly is having sleep problems at the moment? In particular unable to settle when asleep / half asleep at end of feed?

SPB, it's hard to keep remembering that though without any sleep.

Right, i'm off for a bit as i have no 'babies don't sleep' advice

My theory is:
(or that should probbaly be hypothesis)
The sleep-inducing stuff in breast milk decreases after 6 months (in the same way as iron does??)
So obviously I'm hoping that the babies who are having problems right now are mainly bf, and are having to learn to settle themselves with less of the drug in their system, which is something the ff babies have probably already done.
Well the other theory is that I've had little or no wine in the last few days

Well that's been met with a distinct lack of enthusiasm
Geniuses are never recognised in their own lifetime!

OJ's threads break my heart . Has anyone watched the Mummy Diaries? My worst fear is one of the kids dying but equally I'd hate to leave them behind....

TBH Katy I'm blaming BFing for ds's sleep pattern just because dd was FF and slept so well. He's off solids at the moment with being ill so I reckon he needs the night feeds. I tend to put him down after and switch the mobile on and shut his door - I've never left him crying inconsolably but he has got better and better at settling himself to sleep after a feed, I used to have to take him into bed with me.