May 07 - 6mths on...........Oh I can't think of a witty title, 6mths is obviously not long enough to have regained some brain cells.....

[Mrsjaffabiffa]

Morning all.....

Thought I'd start a new thread as the other was huge.

Bit late now but big hug to Beau..... hope you went back to sleep little man.

J & M still asleep, it's one good thing about having Mum & Dad around, I don't have to wake the girls up to do the school run.

This is going to sound really silly but make sure that the others wash their hands after handling the rabbit and before touching B because if it is asthma it could be exacerbated by contact with animal fur.

You could get a snake (or iguana) instead. Gekkos are great, you can see through their heads.

PMSL at gecko, 'you can see through their heads' I want one for that very reason.

Boots voucher would be lovely but realistically i dont think i am ever going to get a pair of £120 boots Children have to eat and all that... Thank you for the kind offer though incognito

SOH i dont think for a minute that B has Asthma, i have been told by varying doc's with various children (you can say 'various' when oyu have so many) that they have asthma. I am usually thrown an inhaler prescription with no training on how to use it and am supposed to be pleased

The twins were first, they did have awful chest infections and quite crappy lungs till they were 4. But then they were born at 29 weeks and ventilated for the first 2 weeks of their life, they also got Bronchiolits just as they were due home and Jake went back on a ventilator. So i kind of expected the chest problems. Phin went unscathed. Jonah has had Bronchiolitis too and Pneumonia when he was 2, they managed to pass a nasogastric tube in to his lung and promtly fill it with ebm despite my protesting that it was clearly not in the right place. So he too has had inhalers thrown at him since tiny.

Not one of them has shown any asthmatic tendancies since. I think it is just poor lungs and prone to chest infections. I asked the dos specifically about the Pectus Excavatum and he said 'no, no, wont affect his chest\lungs at all' But then again he is also the muppet who diagnosed it and proceeded to tell me nothing about it! I had to ask for a referral to the Peadiatric Consultant.

I think B may get some relief from the inhaler at night when he is wheezing badly but do not expect to use it long term. Luckily i know how to use a baby nebuliser or would be clueless!

Feckin doctors, they just want to shoo you out the door with a prescription for something to make you feel better and sod what it may do to the baby!

Gosh that was long

Still want a Gecko...

Gekko not Gecko You even spelled it for me...

Actually I think it's 'gecko'. I didn't type the last message, it was me dictating to dh as I fed m on the sofa. I assume it's only 'gekko' when referring to Gordon Gekko.

Unfortunately I suspected it was just them trying to fob you off. Asthma is usually only diagnosed after a series of more acute attacks. Beau seems to be more consistently wheezy. And re PE (and I quote):

In pectus excavatum, it is believed that the heart is displaced to the left side of the chest, and there is a restriction of movement of the heart and lungs. Patients complain of a decrease in stamina and endurance during strenuous exercise (67%), frequent respiratory infections (32%), chest pain (8%) and asthma (7%) (Fonkalsord EW et al, 2000).

Your GP sounds a bit useless.

Is B showing any signs of an infection? If so, are they treating it? Have they tested his nasal secretions to determine whether it's viral or bacterial? DD had a very high temp last week and they tested her snot and wee straight away to check for a treatable infection, not wanting a repeat of the croup episode. Otherwise, I think I agree with you. B is teeny tiny and lives with 5 bigger children who all bring home lots of infections, he sees many other children at toddlers and it's probably a combination of little lungs and a chest that works a wee bit harder than most. I've heard great things about those plug in vaporiser things, about £6 from Chemists or supermarkets. Have you tried?

Send them all this way for hols. Especially Jonah, dh thinks he's the bees knees. If he asks 'can we have another?' once more I'm buying a chastity belt.

Awww go on, J needs another playmate Can lend out Jonah though, he is being quite nice atm. We changed all the bedrooms round at the weekend and he is now in Phin's room on his own. Think the little ball of rage just needed his own space, not a good thing to crave in this house, unless you like the garage.

I have asthma, i think the family history always leads them to a crap quick diagnosis. I have been much better since i had the twins. It was awful during prg with them but has almost vanished now only rearing it's wheezy head when i have a particularly bad hayfever bout.

I looked up PE and found those stats too, i think i need to change doc's. I have issues that i need to go and see the doc about but just dont get on with any of them (there are 3) I struggle to understand them all too, which i find awful to say but true.

More paperwork hassle.

Hugo has had 2 pairs of wet pants so far, no poo yet, should i be grateful or terrified?

He didnt ask anything about him, only listened to his chest with his very cold stethascope

Receptionists are lovely Not good enough though is it really?

Plenty of geckos where I live will be living. Totally transparent, with suckers for feet. Too cute. More reasons to come and visit.

Sorry about Beau still being poorly. I do so hate it when the docs just say 'asthma' like that when most likely it isn't at all, just not what you need. Keep strong supermum

We got the house..... Its fabulous but it would still probably fit into MrsJB's guest wing.

Wahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You got the house now we can all come and stay Can i smuggle the gecko's home or is that a no,no?

B been asleep since 1230, i have managed to clean amd make soup. I will feel awful in half an hour when i have to wake him to take him to school. Poor thing.

Hugs is now in no pants at all, i hate potty training.

I'm lucky. My normal GP (Dr Sam) is absolutely lovely, thorough, well-informed, happy to be corrected and human. Last time I saw him we were talking about NHS Direct and he used the phrase 'as useful as a bag of piss'. Honest too then. He was telling me that when it was set up as a telphone helpline it had as many teething problems as any other computer software. At the bottom of the page about cystitis it mistakenly said 'patient must be taken straight to A&E'. So that weekend on the celebratory launch of the NHS's new fangled telephone helpline, a record number of women hotfooted it down to A&E in all of a lather because they had a common UTI. Tickled me no end.

We do have the token useless GP at our practice too. He that tells me it's my fault I have mastitis because I fed a baby more than 6 months with milk that no longer has any nutritional value. All together now, NUMPTY.

Not having any more children. Am not cut out for this mothering lark at all.

Cam, what splendiferous news.

I don't do aeroplanes though. How many weeks does it take to sail to Africa on a boat? Just call me Vasco de Gama.

Am - yey for Ella's 'Mama'! you have done really well bf for so long, i didn't really get much pain when i stopped.

I'll have some soup LGT, i need some more vitamins methinks!

Doc said i have a virus, chances of going to hen do are looking slim - it is one of my best friends, i haven't seen her since January - oh well wedding is in two weeks, hopefully i will be ok for that

Lw sorry to hear you have had a hard time of late, glad you are feeling better, and have met some other mums, i am much happier now i have got other mums to meet up with, a whole classroom of kiddies... are you mad?

Blimmin eck, can't beleive what that doctor said about BF!

re being cut out for this mothtering lark, i am definately not when ill

Congrats on your house Cam!

Hi all,

Im back, (again).Ruddy sodding broadband went down and took two days to fix, then I was away in deepest Wales with the girls so DH could have the house to himself before his exams..whilst we were away though L got a chest infection, then M now has it and finally me..so we are all feeling rough too, but back at home now...L a bit better today so she has gone the cm for the afternoon...howver I had to take her there with unbrushed for two days hair and in my PJ's, as I havent the energy for anything else..neighbour from hell next door saw me and grinned smugly..cowbag..

Well will try to catch up..did I see that B is poory largegandt?Asthma?They said L had that and she hasnt..I mean how on earth can they tell with a wee baby?

I have a gecko tattoo on my back..humph looks more like an alligator now though im so fat

Well broadband allowing im back for good now ladies I hope, like Take That..so thats pepped me up a bit..

Hi all,

Im back, (again).Ruddy sodding broadband went down and took two days to fix, then I was away in deepest Wales with the girls so DH could have the house to himself before his exams..whilst we were away though L got a chest infection, then M now has it and finally me..so we are all feeling rough too, but back at home now...L a bit better today so she has gone the cm for the afternoon...however I had to take her there with unbrushed for two days hair and in my PJ's, as I havent the energy for anything else..neighbour from hell next door saw me and grinned smugly..cowbag..

Well will try to catch up..did I see that B is poory largegandt?Asthma?They said L had that and she hasnt..I mean how on earth can they tell with a wee baby?

I have a gecko tattoo on my back..humph looks more like an alligator now though im so fat

Well broadband allowing im back for good now ladies I hope, like Take That..so thats pepped me up a bit..

testing

Duh, thought my post hadnt gone on then realised everythings changed and all the messages have gone upside down..very confusing to a sick person..

BTW..Heres a question..on In the Night Garden, who the hell lives in the blue side of the Pontipines house and why do you never see them?I think its a bit sinister..L loves the ruddy night garden..

at Vasco de Gama, you are one smart cookie, stop now you are scaring me. You simply must have more children, the world needs more yous By the way, if you are a piece of our furniture the boat takes 3 months. Plane is quicker and more straightaway

Geckos come free LG&T, often as stowaways making a bid for freedom.

Shall I post a picture to tempt you all???

Yes well done baby Ella on your mama!

Mumto, sorry to hear you are feeling rotten, I hope it clears up quickly enough for you to make it to your hen do.

SCOOT >

So sorry to hear you have been poorly and all the babies. Tis the lergy season unfortunatly, dont think this warm one minute, frost the next weather is helping either. How is the new house? Are you all settled in? We must meet up soon.

I must post pics of the meetup, wonder where the camera is?

Mum2G hope you feel better soon, i hate being ill. I have no time for it The wedding is something to look forward to though

SOH i cant believe the doc said that about BF, NUMPTY indeed. It is scary how people go in and just think they are talking sense regardless of the advice.

BTW SOH dont think you are not having anymore children, just remeber you have stayed in my house. I am like a fertlilty goddess You will be knocked up before you know it. How absurd to not have any more, you are a fantastic mommy. J, M and i will sulk if you say no, tis unfair.

Go on Cam, post a pic

Scoot, we must have a psychic link as I was thinking exactly the same thing about the Night Garden this morning. The little blue people that live next to the Pentapeptides (ok I know they're pontipines) appear at the end when the tittifers sing their song don't they? No idea what they're called though.

I heart the Night Garden. I love Makka Pakka and his ingenious og-pog.

Yes, well done on saying 'mama' Ella. Mathilda likes to shout 'bem bem bem bem bem' over and over again. Clever her, hey? Knowing all about the British Empire Medal.

[deluded]

I like boats Cam. Shall come via boat like in the good old days. And I am not a smart cookie at all. Knowledge of the expeditions of de Gama of no use whatsoever in the parenting of a 6 month old baby. Well read? Yes. Abundance of common sense? No.

Please note bottom left image

Oh and er

ROFL PMSL ROFL some more, must do the dreaded school run. Will be chuckling all the way, wish i had done my pelvic floor more

Scoooooooooooottt. Welcome home

My dc want to know why, if its called the Night Garden, the piggle-ti-pines can see, because normally you can't see at night time, unless you have just eaten a lot of carrots.

Ok, will upload a photo.

DS1 has just announced that he thinks he has 'chicken pockets' all over his legs

WTF? Chuckle

Didnt Vasco Di Gamma play for Portugal in the last World Cup?(haha!Despite being ill I have retained my lightning wit!)

I too shall visit by boat..I quite fancy the idea of a long ocean voyage..but only on a posh boat where I could dine at the Captains table and get frisky with someone from steerage ala Titanic, but without the ice burg obv..

Good God, The Lemsip has finally got to me..

[whispers]I really hate the new house...its horrid and seventies and the neighbours are busy bodies and its not in the country..I am very homescik for the old house..its making me quite miserable and I dare not tell Dh as he would say I should count myself lucky to be living somewhere bigger etc and of course he is right..but oh dear..I didnt think it would bother me that much and it does..