june 07 mummies -- SS/WW? - nah, pass the chocs round!!

[upsyderlor]

hello, we're over here

Just out of interest do you use a monitor if he is next door and/or do you leave the doors open?

I do think it is worth a thought, but while she is waking for a feed it is probably easier to keep her in with us. I might mention it to DH though.

We leave all the doors open. No need for a monitor, his room is pretty much the other side of the hall. And if he's only snuffling I don't want to hear him anyway
He was still waking for a feed when we first put him in there, I just used to pick him up and go back to bed and feed him.

It was just the periods that he did sleep...well we had an easier sleep as we couldn't hear him as much. So we still had to wake for feeds but the sleep we did get was more restful.

It's just an idea. Everyone has different ways of doing it and making it work. I can only speak from what we tried.

No, I appreciate the advice. If I don't want to do something a particular way I won't but you know I make no judgement on you for suggesting it and I know you won't be offended if I don't do it the same way. It's good to hear other people's experiences.

Usually we sleep through the snuffles but my medication is making me wake up anyway and it's not just chuntering any more, it's wanting a feed then a crescendo of whinging which requires soothing in one way or another! Arrgggghhhhh! Just when you think you have got the hang of this parenting lark, and the worst is over...

On a completely different topic, thinking about Christmas (another thing keeping me awake!) these are great little presents for family, and dead cheap (7.33 with the extra 35% off). Stick a picture of the LO inside and the grandmas and aunties are dead happy!

I agree.....DD went in her own room very early on....6-8 weeks or something.....and my sleep was transformed. She was waking for a feed then during the night and I would just feed her in her room (I always had to get out of bed to feed anyway otherwise I would have dropped off). She is right next door to us, and even so, I used a monitor for a couple of weeks, but she made herself heard and I soon stopped that! Even if she wakes in the night, when I am asleep, I sleep so much better IYKWIM.

She is upstairs now having a nap but I have no monitor down here....you WILL hear her....you don't realise how tuned in you are.

It lovely to get your bedroom back to yourselves as well.....

As TA said, you have to do what is best for you, but it worked for us as well.....and a few others on here I think...I'm sure Daisy moved her DD quite early and I think Derlor did as well

Right, gotta go and drag myself to bumps and babes. DD is still sleeping (grrr, why not at 4am?), actually no, that's her awake now xxx

Morning. I'm with Fury. DS slept better, and so did we, once he was in his own room.

Also I found this stage a nughtmare with the dummy with DD as she kept crying for it when it fell out, but once she got the hang of putting it back in herself it meant we got full nights of sleep almost every night, and still do. Obviously at some point we will have to take it away from her (she's just turned 2 and has it at night only) but imho that's a small price to pay.

love the new name Bumper!

I agree about getting better sleep when LO went in her own room. It's only next door to ours so we shut her door but not ours and once we've gone to bed the monitor gets switched off.

Sorry - long bit coming up -
I am now in turmoil again about daytime napping. She's always been crap at it, only sleeping on my lap or when we're out walking. I've lived with this, happily, going against my HV and mother saying to let her cry. They said this from a v.early age (3 weeks!) which we strongly felt wasn't appropriate. Last week we decided that at 4+ months it wasn't totally unreasonable (for limited periods) and as she was now getting so that she often wouldn't even sleep on me, but would wriggle and cry and whinge, that we would try it. Three times she's been put down in her pushchair (still in lie flat position), cried for 10 mins or so and then slept. But the HV I talked to yesterday went on about sleep training being necessary and getting her to sleep in cot not pushchair (on grounds that one day she'll be too big to lie down in chair and will save going through change again). Some of it made sense, but has stirred up some negative feelings, including how I hate being told what to do. It didn't help me trust her when she didn't seem to believe that LO goes to bed at night without crying, and now I don't know what to do.

She woke for change & feed at 2am again, grrrr, then slept on til 6.30. I'm knackered now and got to go to the dentist soon. Wonder if I can snatch a nap while she looks at my teeth?

MJ - sorry if I'm missing the point but what's wrong with napping in her pushchair. My nephew is 14 months old and has his daytime naps in the pushchair.

My DD sleeps wherever is convenient for me, pushchair, cot, travel cot or on me

I had wondered the same LMN, but this HV was insistant that sleeping ought to be in the cot. I've been loathe to put her in cot by day as she hates being put down to nap, and don't want to develop bad associations with it and risk stopping her going to bed so well at night. This is the bit the HV couldn't seem to believe - she thought the reason I find she goes to bed easily is thay DH distracts me from her crying. No! She just doesn't cry then.

Morning ladies...hope last night wasn't too bad?

Fury I wish I had started thinking about schools earlier. The local state junior school (c of e) is very good BUT the way to get in is to go to church (18 months MINIMUM!) and get your name of the list. DS got his first rejection letter BEFORE he turned 2 over the summer from the school. Places already full for school yr 08/09.

Even to get a place at a private nursery is a nightmare round here. I have to confess. I was one of those mad women who put their names down for the nursery when I was 3m pg with DS.

And I just about got a place for when I needed to start work when he was 8m.

The moral - get the names down of your potential babies NOW

MJ - tbh I think that's a load of bollocks.....you have to do what sits comfortably with you....I can't see any problem in what you are doing.

Morning Els - whereabouts are you? We don't have problems like that with schools round here....I didn't register DD for nursery until a couple of months ago...perhaps I'm just lucky ?

Hiya Jammy
Oh to get some sleep eh?? My friend's DS only ever took his nap in his pushchair up to the age of 2 and he seems ok. He now naps in his bed fine.

I think sometimes HV make mother's concerned so easily.

jammy, I know what you mean, I hate beig told what to do, I also hate the implication that i'm doing something wrong (don't worry that's not in reference to the advice on this thread ). You have to do whatever is best for you. if you are happy for her to sleep on you then screw everyone else.

Actually, thinking about it, i'm having the same problem. the last few days DD has only slept on me during the day. she used to be fine in her basket, just chunter along till she fell asleep but is too big for it now & won't nap in her crib. she falls asleep at the breast the wakes if i try and move her. she will sleep if we go for a walk but then i still don't get anything done!
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Not sure what to suggest. Could you try laying down with her on your bed till she falls as

I think jammy's problem is the same as mine, if the LO only sleeps when out and about or on her at home you just can't anything done - like pee and eat!

In North London.

TBH I am finding the school thing a bit daunting. Living in a city means the schools are kind of so so really.

Oh I'm lucky then Els....

Bumper...why don't you try MJ's trick then and put her to nap in her pushchair?

I'm quite lucky then cos DD never falls asleep being fed and she sleeps anywhere I put her. Sometimes if I don't recognise the signs quickly enough (or get caught up on MN ) she falls asleep under her play gym!

DD used to fall asleep on her playmat or in her basket. Everything seems to have gone tits up lately! She's now having a tantrum coz she can't get her monkey in her mouth

Unfortunately the pushchair stays downstairs as we live on the 1st floor

oooh halloween smilies!

right, dragging myself out now. I look like the living dead so appropriate for halloween!

shit day in a row #3 has begun

I just said to my boss 'were those documents I forwarded you last night what you were looking for?' - his response "I'm going to talk to you. You can go through the document. Do some work instead of just filling up my inbox"
!!! He asked for an existing doc, which I forwarded him!

And DH didn't get his bonus despite being graded as 'significantly exceeding expectations'
WHY?!?! WTF? We needed that bonus

Well back from the dentist, no problems thankfully and she looked in LO's mouth too Teeth on their way but not iminent IYSWIM.

Re napping, I would be very happy to keep letting her nap on my lap. I can work round having large chunks of the day not able to do anything - though I do make sure I get to use the toilet. Just recently she's started squirming so much and refusing to settle even on my lap, only falling asleep if I feed her. If I move her then, or even try to pull my tshirt down to cover my nips she wakes and fusses and cries. I think that though it does pain me I am going to have to let her cry a bit if I want her to sleep without being fed, and I'll just have to think about where she can sleep.

Bought a new skirt and boots while we were out Have pondered over buying new boots for about a fortnight now. It kind of feels wrong to make a biggish purchase just as my pay is dropping off. But they will get used, and while my old boots can be reheeled to keep them going (and will be) they're just not as smart anymore. And I did sensisbly go for the nice and comfortable option, rather than the very nice but rather tight option.

Hi all!
Sorry to hear about your shit day Fury - oh well its over half way now!

I have to agree on the sleeping in their own room thing - although i loved being able to gaze at L in her basket - since moving her, shes sleeping through and if she does wake and make alit bit of noise whereas i would have picked her up and fed her , she just goes back to sleep.

Yes, sorry Fury I should have said, sorry to hear about another shit day and also about lack of bonus for DH. That sucks.

I'm getting used to it ;-)

Jamantha, that photo of the jellyfish and the woman running are awesome, you should sell them!