Nov 2007..... Once we pop, we will not stop!!!

[sparklygothkat]

I can finally start this, as someone else has had her baby.. woohooo!

SparklyGothKat - 25 Sep (8 Nov) BOY - Callum Eden
KaylaBMummy ? South Wales - 18 Oct (8 Nov) GIRL - Katie

Thanks RGP - and thanks for the virtual kick up the ass last night too.

I am going to get out of this house today if it kills me - can you believe i havent been out since Sunday and even then it was only to my dads!

I need fresh air.... so we will be trying Daniel in the pushchair for the first time!

Halllooooo everyone

Gosh theres alot to catch up on!

I havent been on really. We've converted into a family of mushyness and have been enjoying each others company, ignoring the phone and just generally chilling.
Ethan is a star. Very happy and only cries for food. He's waking every 2 hours for a feed in the night sowe're up at midnight, 2, 4, 6 and then 8/9ish depending if he comes into bed with me
I've had to give up with BF. He baffled the MW big time. He wants to latch on but then just screams and thrashes about and when my milk came in I thought I was dying I was in that much pain so I didnt even try him.
But he is happy taking a bottle so I'm not all that bothered. Him being happy is more important.

Hope you are all well and babies are gorgeous

DJarm - so are you feeling more positive about continuing the BF today? I know how easy it is to hibernate in the house all day. That's exactly what i've done too. I hadn't been out since Sunday either and that too was to the PILs. Yesterday however, MIL came over to offer some respite to DP (chicken pox) and we took Ellie out in her pram for the first time too. We had a lovely long walk to Asda and back and she stayed asleep the whole time. Last night was one of the best nights she's had since she was born i think. She woke up every three hours, fed for 20 mins and was straight back to sleep so i managed to get some much needed sleep too. I dont know if that has anything to do with the fact that she had a poo yesterday too, but basically what i'm trying to say is yes, take Daniel out. The fresh air wears them out! Enjoy your stroll!

NBG - Sorry to hear you have given up with BF Still, as long as you and baby are happy, that's what counts.

Does anyone else get really sleepy when BF?? Whenever i feed Ellie, i'm always sitting there nodding off too! Maybe it's just tiredness....

I need to get to Homebase today to get some net curtain rails. I hate the fact that my vertical blinds allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to peer in at me with my norks out. Not a good look!

Hi all
RG - glad you and Ellie are feeling better after the grand opening of her bowels! I thought it sounded as though she was latched on perfectly. What a difference a day (and a good nights sleep) makes . I'm with you re the sleepy breast feeding, the only thing that keeps me awake is the fact that Adam has suction like a Dyson hoover and every now and then really goes for it .

LOM - congratulations! Really pleased for you and hope the c-section was ok, we can compare notes when you feel up to it. Hope you are having a lovely babymoon and doing nothing but baby sniffing.

Choudru - was it you or Choc who has a swing and which one was it? Adam loves being swung in his car seat and we are thinking about getting him a swing for xmas.

Saw mw for last time today. Over the past 2 days I suddenly feel like my old self - I've stopped crying at the drop of a hat and regained my sense of humour. Such a relief to feel more in control of my emotions again. Sure a few sleepless nights will put paid to that! Anyone else experience this change after about 2half weeks?

Can't believe is the 13th of December! Must go and get some festive food in. x

CONGRATS ON THE POO ELLIE!!! RG - you sound quite proud

PMSL @ Loopy's cold boob Sounds like your girls are keeping you on your toes this week!

JARM - did you get out of the house? It's a lovely sunny winter's day here. Lovely to wrap up warm and go for a stroll in.

I've just finished writing out all my chrimbo cards! Wehay! stick tongue out at everyone who hasn't done it yet

Am just trying to get DS to have his nap so that we have time to have lunch and go to our local breastfeeding cafe. Am meeting a couple of the antenatal class mummies there. Want to raise a few questions regarding diet while BF and also questions regarding expressing. I know it's best to express first thing in the morning but there is no way that can fit into my hectic morning schedule. What with feeding and changing DS and Sara and then making sure I've eaten, there's not much space for expressing unless I wake up earlier.

loopyredangel - I was sore for a couple of months after my emergency section with DS. Have you got an infection? You need to take it easy - no stretching and lifting heavy stuff. Basically avoid anything that uses your ab muscles and you'll heal better.

Better go - Sara calls.

very weary silk here. megan screamed from 11.30 til 6am with virtually no let up. then the bloody alarm clock goes off at 7.30 and wakes us both .

i staggered into spare room to wake dh and begged him to deal with her and get her back to sleep. bless him he didx it and would have been v late for work.

phone rang at 10am and woke us and 11.30 and woke us

trying to drag my sorry arse out of bed, have to feed her, express and then meeting a friend for a walk at 2pm - need to blow the cobwebs away

Thanks choudru, I had to have a drain put in, and I tend to get the pains in that area if I have done too much, also kills when I have walked a short distance, I ahve a dodgy pelvis too, but the pain seems different. I've got my 6 week check up next Wednesday so will see what the outcome is. I know this may sound crude but I am a bit smelly so it could be an infection! God, dignity just flies out of the window when you ahve kids doesn't it?!?

Oh it's so good to know other people are in this stage - I cracked last night and my dp took Edward until half eleven so I could crash out. Bit of a better night but evenings are stressful - has anyone else resorted to infacol yet? I think I'm going today to today.

Loopyredangel, my c-section was four weeks ago and whilst I think I'm doing fine, it does hurt if I overdo it or if I'm tired (ok, that's all the time, I mean if I'm really really really really weeping howling I-give-up-I-can't-do-this tired). I tried some post-caesarean exercises and they hurt too much so I'm just using it as an excuse to slob about. Walking is ok so long as i'm not going uphill. Take it easy.
x

NBG - glad you aren't beating yourself up about giving up BF. I know it's got huge advantages, but to be quite frank - if it's making you miserable then that is quite a huge disadvantage!

Sarahlou - It may have been choc who mentioned the swing. I have been using a bouncer with vibrate which really soothes Sara. We do have a swing as well but i haven't put her in that yet. It's the fisherprice take-along one. Great because you can fold it up and take it with you when you go visiting.

RG - it may be the highlight of poor tom, dick and harry's day to see your norks

Sarah - I wonder what it is that makes us sleepy when BF then? Ellie's got the Dyson touch too when she's hungry lol. I'm still dog tired, but some how the world seems an easier place to be in today. Oh by the way, i dont know if you saw it in another thread, but Adam James also happens to be the name of my DS too!! It's nice that you are feeling more normal and like your old self again. Makes you feel more human doesn't it?

Choudru - i think "relieved" is more the word i would use (no pun intended ). Enjoy the bf cafe!

Silk - sorry you have had a rubbish night. I TOTALLY sympathise and understand how tired and worn out you are feeling. Big hugs. The walk will do you good and will hopefully wear Megan out for this evening.

Fingerbobs - If in doubt, give them some Infacol. Works a treat every time with Ellie if she wont settle. It's really good at getting wind out quickly and helping her relax.

Right, gonna give Ellie a poke so that she wakes up. She's been asleep for ages now so really need to fed her.

We are doing the infacol thing today too - DH has just gone to drop DD1 at nursery and then go to boots for some!

Daniel slept from 9am til I wioke him at 12.30pm! Needed to feed him, boobs were like rocks!

Am going to pick DD1 up from school later so will get my walk then.... am still in pj's at the moment lol

Silk - saw your thread, I had a crap night too but I think yours wins hands down, hope you managed to catch up a little today xxx

Hi all

Congrats LOM!! I had an emergency section too (after induction), and am fine now (4 weeks on).

RG, glad Ellie pooed! You sound like you're doing so well.

JARM, ditto - you're doing great. Daniel sounds fantastic.

Loopy, I'm doing alcohol while feeding too but again just a little bit. I'm also doing chocolate. I've discovered Rebecca doesn't like broccoli though.What a shame.

Silk -poor you - I hate the crying so much! I just feel cut in two and unable to handle it.

Well, we had a horrible evening- DD yelled for 2 hours for no obvious reason. DH has bought Infacol today as recommended by the hv... we shall see... I do think it might be wind.

Hv came today and weighed Rebecca - she is now on the 50th percentile exactly. Clever girl! Then my MIL rang up and asked so I told her and she said 'oh so she's a porker now then?' WTF? Since when did 50th percentile mean porker? Then she said I should give her cool boiled water instead of milk sometimes... Um, no... Inlaws arriving tomorrow - wish me luck!!!

RG = thought i had responded to the fact that your and my first borns share the same name - sorry! i did respond in my head along the lines of what good taste we have !

has anyone got any idea how to break this new habit Megan has formed?
Initially she was a great little sleeper. At 3 weeks old she dropped her middle of the night feed an I was getting to sleep from 11ish til 6.30/7am. Stupidly thought this might last.

Since last Thursday she has changed patterns. Feeds about 7-8pm and goes down in her cot no problem. Wakes between 11 and 12 for a feed and then starts crying. Did intially seem to be wind - have used infacol and cool boiled water which seems to have fixed that. Until last night crying would continue until 2ish when she would settle if co sleeping with me.

Last night it just didn't stop for nearly 7hrs (she has never been awake that long before). I tried to get her to sleep in her own cot by leaving her to cry for 3, then 4, then 5 minutes before picking her up (seemed like an eternity).

Megan is shattered today, has barely eaten cos she keeps falling asleep during feeds. I have managed to take her out in the sling for an hour long walk (she slept the whole time).

I don't think she or I can face many more nights like this - has anyone got any idea what I could try?

HAve tried already - dh settling her in case the problem is me but it makes no difference.
yours
Desperate and knackered of Gloucestershire

Silk, no suggestions - poor you. Rebecca was a nightmare last night so I know how you feel.

Rebecca has diarrhoea from my antibiotics. Horrible!

Loopy, my MIL doesnt believe in demand feeding (I'm bf). She will spend the whole weekend telling me to give Rebecca water instead of bf her... v annoying... LOL at you losing it with your MIL!

HELLO PEEPs
i was on due october thread but my little boy arrived nearly two weeks late on 11 nov. it was an excellent birth no pain killers needed this time round but i have been having probs with feeding and wondered if others have had this prob. in that i don't appear to produce enough milk, my little boy lost so much weight in the first week that was advised to top up with formula which we did as we had the same prob with ds 1 but was absolutely gutted at the time as really wanted to solely bf this time round. at the moment i am combining bf and formula. anyone else had this prob or no how to increase milk flow it seemed that i would feed him for hours and he would stillcome of hungry, the attachment seemed ok. cheers snig

ps congratulations to you all on birth of babies, i haven't read this thread thro yet but will find some time later as ds1 is going to grandmas for weekend to see santa at harrods ( we just used to go to denners in yeovil!) so will have abit of time on computer.

Silk - how was your night last night? Hope it was marginally better than previous nights. xx

Snig - hello and welcome! Congrats on the birth of DS2!

No advice re the feeding i'm afraid, but there are excellent breast feeding counsellors on the feeding boards so would highly recommend starting a post on there and then hopefully you'll get some answers to your questions. Good luck!

morning
I suppose you could say I had a better night. Crying from 11pm til 4am when she fell asleep on me. I put her in her cot at 5am and she was awake and crying at 5.30am

Dh is going to have her tonight and see if he can break this pattern. But I expect he'll be shattered too.

We've managed to sleep from 7 til 10.30 this morning so feel loads better - now need to express as my boob is killing me

Hello Snig - no expert on feeding i'm afraid but good luck

snig - welcome and congratulations About milk supply - I'm no expert but maybe one option could be to express milk daily to encourage your body to produce more? You can store the milk to bottle feed your baby with and once you've built up a good supply, you can feed it straight from the breast and give up expressing.

Might be easier said than done though if you have more than one DC. I keep meaning to build up a good routine of daily expressing but between DS and new baby, I can't seem to find the time!

I tried it for the first time the other day and only produced 1oz in 20 mins. Was a bit peed off but I have been assured that if I do it every day - especially first thing in the morning - my body will adapt and I will be producing more milk.

HTH.

Sorry for all of you still having interrupted nights. Sara has been kind to me over the past week or so which means I have much more energy to cope with her playing up in the evenings (still gets grizzly for 2-3 hours every evening before knocking herself out for 5-6 hours).

Didn't make it the BF cafe yesterday - it was closed due to Christmas. Was meeting 2 others from NCT classes there and when it was closed, we decided to go back to one lady's house for a cuppa. So had a nice natter about babies.

This afternoon we are going into town to register Sara's birth. Next job is to sort out child benefit form and apply for tax credits.

BTW - spent a bit of time researching local nurseries yesterday. Forgot that 2 kids was going to cost twice as much! I doubt I will have much left over from my salary once childcare is paid for when I go back to work. Need to work out how much help we will get through tax credits and DH's childcare vouchers that he can get from work.

What a minefield. At least I've started researching into it early smug halo emoticon

Loopy and Choc - sympathies regarding your MILs. Some of them just can't help themselves can they?

Don't let it get to you dears. Mind you, when mine innocently made just one comment about whether I was producing enough milk during one of Sara's feeding frenzies in her first week, it knocked my confidence for days.

It's hard not to let them bother you but you must rise above it in calm zen-like manner.

Choc - how charming of your MIL! William was on the 50th centile when born and is now on the 75th!! But there is no way I would give him anything other than breastmilk, and my health visitor said he was thriving, not fat.

Silk - my sympathies are with you over the sleepless nights, we've had quite a few like it. DH and I were both so tired last night when William woke up 5 minutes after going back in his crib that despite his crying we both somehow fell asleep! William clearly got bored and fell asleep too and we got a few more hours before the next feed.

Visitor arriving shortly, better go, and will catch upproperly later.

Halloo all and a good afternoon!

Tyler is breast feeding well and sleep is improving significantly. Last night he slept from midnight after his feed, then woke up at 0130 for a nappy change and feed. after that he slept until 0500hrs.
I am hoping this will last because I can't tell my days from my nights. Have had sleep
for hours during the day when Tyler is asleep!

Thank fully I have not had to use Infacol so far because once Tyler feeds, he snuggle back to sleep with no fuss. At times, when i put him in his moses basket, he drifts back into sleep by himself.

Silk: Good to know you had a better night and managed to sleep in too. DH had to ask the health visitor tocome back today because when she turned up around 11am, Tyler and I were fast asleep. I always make it a point that all the phones are off when I go to bed.

My 'lovely' MIL likes to call her beloved son at 5am (ignoring the time difference of course).

Choc: Good luck with ILs. Am glad mine have postponed their journey tolater in the new year, I don't know how I would have survived!

RG- re: the sleepy thing when BF. I seem to get really sleepy if its in the early hours. DH insists that I should wake him to put Tyler back to sleep, but DH is doing a lot already, I have to soldier on!
Glad Ellie finally opened her bowel, relief to you too am sure It does feel good when they gain weight too

Chou: re:going back to work- I am actually considering going back part time to allow me and DH to share the childcare between us at this stage.

NBG: I almost gave up BF myself not so long ago because I was so sore and scared of the next moment I had to feed, but luckily, I turned a corner and its all enjoyable now. So, like Loopy, says happy mummy=happy baby however they are fed!