March 2007 - where the babies all get feisty and we "make rods for our own backs" or develop arms like a trucker!

[Mossy]

Couldn't help it!

[big hugs] Piffle

Mossy I would like to try your method - might have to wait until lodger is away for a couple of nights though!!

Monti was better last night as his nose was not blocked and he was so knackered from previous 2 nights

Can they have Medised now then???

medised from 3 mths...

thank god...
got him up last night from 9-10pm, gave him medised and let him watch the footie, being English he ahs to learn very young that they never win anything of note
I love being a kiwi here
Anyways he slept from 10-6 and then one feed and again til 8am.
Phew...
I feel ratshit though, headache, sinus and throat still killing.
Am off to bed soon for a lay down...

I would glady take Finn to bed Mossy but he just crawls off in there now and it is such novelty to see his daddy, that he will not settle, add to that my cough and that would really disturb him...
I co slept with ds1, but dd and finn have never been into it at all...
curious

really right there with everyone and their sleep issues... Samuel couldn't have BEEN more difficult throughout the night...

... so it may give you all hope to hear that last night he slept from 8.30 til 5am without waking!

... so i have to say that hellish as it is... this sleep programme really worked for us and he is almost happy when he is put down to sleep!

Never thought i'd see the day....

I put Ronnie down and he screams himself to sleep , write more later

Piff, lack of sleep is such a killer {{{hugs}}} to you. I don't know what I can say that will make you feel better. Just know that this will pass

Note to self: "Buy Medised"

foxy my guilt was assuaged by the 7 hrs sleep...
2.5 mls... gift from god

Things are much better today, I feel a bit better, Finn MUCH better after having a good sleep.
thanks

Just a note.
In my years of experiences of medicines the best medicine for drying up babies is "Tixylix cough and cold" not any other sort of tixylix. It has an ingredient in it that the others don't have.
Also Piriton dries them up too.

I give it to Ronnie, but give half a dose. So often at night they will get: some piriton to dry them up and make them sleepy and calpol, nurofen etc, to ease pain and make them sleepy. The common thread being "make them sleepy" ( it usually works)

GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS!!!!! I have just had the best news. My horrible manager has just announced she is going on attachment to another department for a YEAR, starting in January....yeehaa!!!! I've still got to negotiate with her, but I won't have to work with her till at least 2009, and a lot can happen in that time!

hooray!!!!!

yes Callie... number 2??? Glad to hear it's good news on the work front for you.

Hugs to all those who need them... and those who would just link one .

What is the sleeping method you have been using with Samuel, Muppet? Glad that Finn slept better Piffle.

Kate won't take medicines!! We tried medised last night and it came back up shortly afterwards - along with every feed she had had. I'm not sure whether to be concerned about her. She is eating and sleeping fine-ish (throwing in a 5pm power nap which is seeing her up much later at night) but she is having 3 -4 loose nappies for the last three days. At first I thought it might be teething... but do you think that this much poo is teeth???

Mossy, I'm with you and feel much happier cuddling a crying baby. I can't bear to listen to her cry.

bella-Elsie has exploding bum syndrome due to teething.no nappy can contain it all.

i have never used medised.dh makes me feel guilty for giving them calpol,i think thats because he doesnt like taking such things himself.personally i think its horrible to leave them in pain if you can give them something to help.

i feel very strange atm.i dont know what planet i'm on or who i am

Kate's too Snoo!! tmi alert... they smell like her newborn baby poo's - have me all sentimental.

Has anything changed for you... do you know why you are feeling this way? Sending you lots of love

Ronnie's smell like newborn poos too.
{{{Hugs}}} to you snoo

oh, poo comparisons Well Hasans poos smell disgusterous!
Though he is not sick or teething at the moment but he is learning to climb the stairs. I was half way up the stairs picking up all the sequins I had just thrown everywhere (fume) and Hasan was at the bottom. Turned round and he was right behind me looking very pleased with himself. Argh...I need to get a wide stairgate -fast!

Callie, great news! How sad for your boss that anyone should dread working with her. I wonder does she realise or just not care? makes me realise what a sheltered life I lead. I am going to be petrified when I eventually go back into the big bad world!

I hope things are easing for everyone having a hard time at the moment.

Hurrah Callie

MrsS - agree with you - key word here is "sleepy""

Monti slept very well last night - only woke me 2 hourly, after some Medised!!

Kiwi - thanks for the hug

There are lots of tummy bugs going round (re. Kate and Hasan's poos) so they could have a bug and be teething too?

Snoo agree with you - would rather give them something to alleviate the pain....oh and help them get a good night.s sleep

vomit bug has hit our house... dd off school and asleep in bed at the moment - just waiting for the others to get it now.

diva... you're not pg are you?

Kiwi - the sleep programme i used is just putting baby down whilst still awake (something I'd not done b4!) and kissing him lots, rubbing his back and saying "I'll be back for another kiss in a minute" then you walk out the door and come immediately back in for another kiss and then back out saying the same thing.

I varied the amount of time between trips back in to settle him according to how cross he was. Bearing in mind this is the boy who cries til he vomits - the first couple of nights were hell - took 3 hours or so - i was shattered. Then he woke throughout the night and instead of picking him up for a comfort feed i settled him again and let him cry. HELLISH.

It HAS worked but it was the singularly most difficult thing I've had to do with any of my kids. I nearly caved in many times and experienced just about every emotion going.

Having said that i completely caved in at 4am last night as he was sitting in his cot next to me with his hands through the bars not crying but saying "amum, amum, amum" and sticking his bottom lip out .... garrghhh, i just melted and scooped him up..... oooooops

muppet - takes some will power what you have been doing! i cannot bare him screaming so i just pick him up straightaway unless i am downstairs with doors closed and telly up loud!

muppet-i dont think so,i have a coil.i hate the thought that some months an egg may get fertilised and prevented from implanting but i try not to think about it.thats why i wanted to get 'done'..

i have been feeling pretty bad since Elsie was in hospital,i think it triggered the depression again.i have had to switch to the slow-release version of my AD's but that has also meant a dose deacrease for the time being,so my brain is being pretty f**ed about atm.my hormones are doing weird things as well,i am in the post-ovulation bit now and i have been spotting/bleeding.

ho hum..hormones dont matter as they only cause problems for us mere women.

dh is being lovely at the moment though.

muppet-it sounds like hard work what you are doing,i agree you need alot of willpower.i remember trying to get ds1 to stay in his own bed(he was about 2.5 when i'd decided id hads enough of him screaming till he was sick if i put him to bed on his own).

mornign all, curse this never ending sickness going round and round and back again for good measure.

I have lost my voice, throat still ghastly but not as bad
Have lovely cough still but that too is drying up.
Slept badly due to my cold, bad blocked sinsus which really hurts am off to find some meds for it asap.

Finn seems to have changed his routine - rod for own back perhaps
Down at 7pm nicely, up at 7.45pm screaming, comes downstairs (have to hold him when he cries can't leave him) fed again medised again but he threw up nurofen. he slept til 5am fed and back down again

I can see his top teeth poking through AND the two either side of his bottom ones so poor little fellow is in much pain I suspect.

Roll on normality....

[big hugs to Finn]

...all I want for Christmas is my two front teeth.........

its awful, all the ill babies and people. feel crappy myself, bf think half of it is temper at no sleep. very interested in the sleeping thing.. he normally (for now!) but takes himself off and falls asleep- i try in that second to whizz him into bed... dh can get him off in seconds with no screaming or bf of course. if he wakes up and means it i do pick him up, as he goes back v fast without bf or waking properley, otherwise he bf...

rosy !!! at hasan! snoosnoo glad your dh is being lovely- mine is too despite my bizarre moodswings. is it the moon? it seems full tonight

Morning
Hope Finn is better today

My medicine concoction dried 'em all up good and proper last night

Ronnie is wanting to stand up all the time now, every piece of furniture, me!!
He's not so good with the crawling although he can move quickly it looks at bit awkward.
He reminds me very much of ds1 who also did a bear crawl: up on his toes and hands, not knees and hands.
I find it quite difficult to be with him though as when I'm around he starts crying and whining and all he wants to do is suck.
It's got nothing to do with hunger, it's becoming his dfault setting. He still feeds as frequently as a newborn and his poos often smell like a newborn's too.
So I rarey see the relaxed happy ronnie that other adults see. I have tro hide and watch [shcok].
Yesterday he was spending ages opening and shutting a door, very determined he was, of course as soon as he saw me watching he started crying and trying to climb up my legs.