March 2007 - where the babies all get feisty and we "make rods for our own backs" or develop arms like a trucker!

[Mossy]

Couldn't help it!

Actually I have wheeled it onto a bus, it would be awkward to fold down and bring onto a bus unless you had another adult to help...blah, blah, buggy blah, blah brilliant blah blah blah....

thanks Snoo... she is pretty miserable and we have spent the day together on the sofa snoozing . Brilliant!! Thankfully MissE is home and I can finally get the washing out - see .

your dd - how did you answer the willy question??

oh Kitty... what a reaction from yours!! At least she didn't want any more vinegar .

Piffle... did your estate agent reschedule?? How was your dp about the potential move? Actually, how is he getting on with deciding what to do about his job???

Hello all. Have been away once again, to DP's dad's this time for a few days. Last week couldn't post really as DS was teething from hell - top tooth has come through, making three now - and DP was working away so not much time to breathe. DS is hopefully about to fall asleep while I figure out what to feed him.

On the AF front, not having BFed since the end of May, mine obviously came back a while ago, and I've had a variation from 40 days to 21, but it seems to have settled in the past two months to 28, amazingly, as in the past they tended to be more like 35. However the last one dragged on for nearly two weeks... not amused by that at all and hoping it was a one-off.

Bethoo, hope you resolve things with your DP. It's never easy.

Piffle, good luck on the house-moving project .

Kitty, what's the problem with Ronnie's neck? I worry about Jordi's head, because it's flatter on one side, he tends to hold it towards the right more and it falls down quite a bit too, usually in bursts of three goes! He's not rolling over, sitting up unsupported or anywhere near crawling yet either, but I'm trying not to worry too much about those things yet. He still hates going on his front for more than about a minute or two usually, but maybe I should be cruel and just leave him on it.

DeathbySnooSnoo, you mentioned Elsie is not having as much milk - Jordi is hardly taking any in the afternoon now, just a couple of ounces mostly, and sometimes only about three or four before bed, and while I hardly need to worry about his weight gain (22lb, 91st centile), I do wonder if he's getting the right things from food rather than milk. I don't want to be feeding him up on carbs for example when it's protein he needs. He does have a good bit in the morning (up to 7oz usually) and then 3 more in porridge. I always give him at least one meal with protein in it for food (fish, lentils, eggs plus milk in it sometimes - not meat though). Does that sound ok to people?

There, that's all my current anxieties off my chest!

Kiwi, well done on resigning. Am I have to say. I have to steel myself to negotiate my return to work.

Must go and cook! Hello everyone else.

bethoo you are my friend on FB! Pics are on March 07 crew.

Kiwi missed the bit about resigning. Will you be a SAHM now or look for something else?

Snoosnoo at FC. Mine were all happy to play along even after they'd figured it out. I just had to Have Words with DS2 not to spoil it for DS3 once he had. Looking forward to doing it again with this little maid in years to come.

I missed your news too Kiwi, hopefully something better comes your way.

Well Dp and the move... we are talking "later" after Heroes - 2 episodes- after which Finn needs to be fed and then by the time I'm through with that DP will be asleep - otherwise known as the avoidance method.
Seems like a no brainer to me
Buying cheaper, but bigger and better set out house

Will save £120 mth petrol myself driving dd to school every day and DP will also save half that by being that little bit more southern for his commute. DS1 will get free school transport.

We will be able to clear out sole credit card off (it's on 0% and we're throwing loads at it so it's no big deal)

But maybe it's just me
Sorry it's always me me me I'm so self absorbed

not you are not the only one! am af free but assumiing its cos i am still bf

have spent day rearranging kitchen and feeling v guilty for not letting the baby stick his hands in his food - he refused to eat anything after i said NO and just stared at the floor. god i feel really horrible.

have noticed some christmas conversations!!!!!!!!!!!!! eeek!

Hi still lurking

bella-i told dd1 i dont know as ive never been in a sex shop myself.actually,i havent since i was about 14.

piffle-why doesnt your dp want to talk about house move?it sounds like a good idea to me!or is he like mine and lets you get on with everything yourself so that he can blame you if anything goes wrong?

rosy-i couldnt be doing with a pram-type buggy.i am hopefully getting one off here that i found last night(i had looked at every twin buggy on ebay so i started looking on MN).i spoke to dh about it and he started on about why do i need another double buggy....why didnt i get a side-by-side one in the first place...blah blah.i tried to explain one can't anticipate what size a baby will end up being by 8 months but he didnt understand.

lurking here too

I don't know why he won't talk about it...
Fear of change I don't know

Snoo, no he would not blame me, he would blame himself
His new job - he hates it and I think the uncertainty over that is making him nervous - fair enough I guess...

Piffle if he wants to leave that job he probably doesn't want to commit to anything because he doesn't know where he'll end up working? Is he looking for other work yet? The house does sound like a good idea though...hopefully everything will fall into place very soon.

Kiwi welcome back to good old sahm land!

Snoosnoo good idea! I like to save up retorts for future usage also Good to buy off mn, why not! I bought a gorgeous nine west hand bag for £9 off here recently! Apparently you have to say 'hun' alot in buy and sell and everynow and then some of the regulars go in there and take the piss...highly entertaining!

Well dh surprised me and turned up last night which is great but he woke me at 1am ds2 was up 1.30am and 5 am, Hasan was up every hour all night and dd was up at 6.20am...I HAVE HAD DAMN ALL SLEEP (sigh)

Rosy what an awful night, hopefully you can take it easy today, it is amazing how they all wake up in one night sometimes... And awful too.

I can understand that about DP Rosy...
But this new house would be that much cheaper he would feel less pressure, be forking out less each month as well if he needed to look for another job, he is safe as he always knows he can take his old job back, even if it means traveling away from home - which again would mean higher salary.
Think his worries are groundless, but we will nut it out over the next few days...

Any comments on this?

i must confess Callie that i never put mine in! in a pile somewhere!

Piffle my DH does that avoiding thing too. Then it's my fault when it all goes wrong

He rolled in at 9.50 this am and worried why I was upset. He is supposed to be back for 8.30 at the latest to get the boys to school. Hadn't been able to get an answer on his mobile. They were 20 mins late for school so I'll get a bollocking for that (and it's 3 lates and a DT so DS3 isn't happy).

I'd got as far as checking the traffic reports for crashes on the motorway and starting to plan the funeral before I rang his work and asked whether he'd left. He'd been delayed.

Someone has accused him of being involved in theft so he'd stayed to be interviewed... asked him if all the phone lines were down when he said his mobile doesn't work.

All he had to do was ring me before 8.30 to say he'd been delayed and I'd have to take the boys to school. How difficult is that?

Evenhope- sadly men do not think like we do! i have had this before when a simple phone call would suffice. when i cant get hold of dp i am always convinced he is in the arms of another woman! but then i feel like an idiot!

oh no Evenhope - hope things are sorted quickly for your dh at work. It's funny where your mind wanders when you don't know what's going on .

I will be a SAHM as soon as I finish up with no immediate plans to look for paid work. We'll keep working at growing our family . I haven't made arrangements with work - I haven't been back yet. Kate is still quite poorly and, especially, short of breath and raspy.

Any tips for getting calpol in to her would be appreciated .

Thanks for the reminder, Callie . Mine is somewhere too.

Hope you have been able to rest today Rosy x x

I started writing a really long post replying to everyone.

I had left Bertie sat bolt upright on the couch propped up by cushions happily playing with his crinkly book.

Next thing I hear a thud and god I feel like the worst mother in the whole world as Bertie has landed on the floor arrrrrrrrgh!

He is fine thank goodness and a bit of magic juice has quietened him down but oh I feel like such a sh*t.

Sorry about lack of long post - I had best of intentions!

Have been busy on FB, as have gotten back in touch with loads of my cousins. I lost touch with most of them after the rift with my Mum, so it's so great to be back in touch with them again.

So FB can be used for good as well as evil!

Kiwibella have you tried one of those medicine syringes?

Evenhope / Bethoo I had the same with my dh for years; he'd go out in the evening and roll in in the wee small hours... however I knew he was usually to be found buying skunk from whichever dodgy person had reeled him in with the old pied piper refrain of "it's really strong, straight from Amsterdam..."

Thankfully he's much more sensible now. I remind myself of that whenever he's doing my head in these days.

Piffle will reply to your fb message.

Foxy and Kitty, you lurking fitness freaks you!! Kitty, god I wouldn't have a clue what to do about biting, I have all this sort of thing to come I suppose..... arrgh!

Evenhope, saw your pic on FB, bit scary!! Bethoo saw your pix too - haven't had chance to comment yet either... but they are lovely.

Callie I had grand plans about some kind of ethical type account but ended up going with NatWest (my bank) just because it was easier.

Anyway now I have half a dozen FB messages to reply to too.... oh I'm just too popular

Or just really I don't get out and about enough in rl!!

Kiwi, sorry Kate is still poorly . I second the use if syringes. Squirt to the side and back of the mouth and tip her back slightly, then she can't spit it out. Mind you she might like it!!

Mossy, Ronnie is always falling and banging his head. It goes with learning to sit! Don't worry!

Evenhope at your dh not phoning!! Hope things get straightened out at work though. That must be stressy.

Piffle, you idea for moving sounds ideal. I hope your dh comes round to the idea soon. it sounds like it will be loads better for you all.

My mum's just told me that she had an ecg and the results are not very good/. So she has to have an xray tomorrow etc. What worries me more is that when she was telling me and she had tears in her eyes, was that I felt nothing zilch. She's been annoying the hell out of me recently and I just feel such anger towards her. I need to get myself sorted.

I want a new name. There are too many kittys around now. I don't think it suits me anyway. Makes me sound all sweet and fluffy and we all know that's far from the truth
Anyway, any ideas. I've got jelly for brains and seem incapeable of thinking anything, let alone something coll and witty.

Callie, we noticed that Ronnie holds his head to the right and often seems quite stiff in the neck when he turns his head. I think it's getting a bit better now he's moving around.
I suspect it's like that because he was lying in a bad position in the last few weeks of my preg, his head was jammed into my left pelvic are.(gave me shocking piles!) When he was born his left ear was all squished against his head, so that would mean his head was constantly pushed over the right iyswim.
Have you asked anyone about Jordi? I think we expect babies to have perfectly round heads but in reality they come in all funny shapes and sizes. I'm sure he's fine

Hasan had an uneven shaped head but it seems to have rounded out now.

Kettleball is a good name, you could just drop the kitty?

Piffle, is your dh at all contrary? I'm not sure if all men are the same or it's just mine but...doublebluffing is the only thing that works with him ie. change your mind let it go altogether and let him take the lead in doing exactly what you want it

lurker in the shadows here too !!!!

"jellybrain" Kitty???

Where can I get a syringe? I have a dropper that holds 1ml - which is a bit of a battle getting any more than two mls in her each go.

kitty: or "vinegar"

kiwi - just ask at your local pharmacy. They'll either sell you one for a few pence, or if you're lucky just give it to you.

Mossy - if you've got this far without Bertie falling off something you're doing well. They need to do a lemming act a few times to learn that edges are not for crawling over!

kitty-what about 'vinegar tits' after that screw on prisoner cell blockH ?

mossy-i think its mandatory to have your first child fall off a sofa or bed between 6+9 months of age.its how you learn that putting babies on sofas isn't a very good idea(well,thats how i learnt).i'm still learning new things all the time,not just things like leaving fags where easily-led 9 year olds can sneak them out of the house undetected is rather stupid,but also things like not all babies develop at the same rate,and just because dd2 couldnt pick up small things from the floor before 9 months,doesnt mean that elsie wont be able to

bella-i hope Kate is ok.have you taken her back to the doctors?i cant advise on the calpol thing,Elsie just opens her gob as soon as she sees the bottle.then ds and dd2 form a queue behind her.

kitty-do you think your mum may have been playing it up a bit,or did you just generally not feel bothered?my mum texts me sometimes saying she is lonely since my nan dies etc and i just think'so?'.i have no idea how to deal with her expressing emotion,it makes me feel awkward.