June 2020 Babies-Newborn, snuggles, recovery, milk and night feeds! 2nd thread

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New thread!

@Gigitree don't feel bad at all, we have no pattern to timing or sleep at all yet it feels!! Huckleberry is helping me get some better naps during the day but 'bedtime' can be anywhere from 5.30pm to 10pm depending on the mood he's in!! He's gradually starting to increase the length of that first sleep but I can never predict the start time!!

We offer 5oz every 2-4 hours as well and she will drink between 4 and 5

I would definitely persevere with Huckleberry. The Precious Little Sleep website says a nap is anything 10 mins or longer so I don't log if it is a five minute snooze at the end of a feed.

We are using Snuz sleeping bags which are really good. Have the change zip and also popper shoulders rather than arm holes which annoyed me with the TT Snuggle thing. We go for 2.5 tog if 20 degrees as LO seems to run quite cold.

@SRS1311 when you log more than 3 consecutive days of sleep data it will suggest actual times for nap. That was the eye opener for me because there would be times that my LO is crying and I thought she was hungry but she was tired.

I have found that better day naps help with the nighttime sleep but I must admit my days are very random and I haven't had one successful cot/Moses nap. In a bid to transfer the naps away from me I am going to take her for a walk in the pram at nap time so she gets used to a nap away from me.

@babbafett same here with the future rugby player lol, he's boob fed and is doing a good 6-8hr stretch at night which is a dream.

The last 2 nights he's stirred and started flicking his head side to side like he's hungry after 6/7hrs but he's still asleep, I've managed to feed him whilst he stays asleep then settle him back down and he does another 4hrs!

He's 10 weeks tomorrow and wears a babygrow and a 1 tog Velcro swaddle at night but is going to outgrow it any day, worried that if he goes into a sleeping bag he will startle himself awake

Just thought I'd mention for anyone with anxiety issues, I found the huckleberry app made it soo much worse and actually stopped me from looking at his cues and more looking at the clock. Some people love it but I just didn't get on with it and have felt so much better since I stopped using it

Has anyone started 'cleaning teeth' yet with their little ones? I read you're supposed to start woth a gum massaging toothbrush style thing to get them used to it before actual teeth appear but not sure how accurate that is?

@cornishbumpkin I agree. I find we dont have a routine as such and I was feeling bad thinking I should have a better handle on times. I tried huckleberry and found it was good for me to get a little snapshot but I stopped after a few days. I realised I wasnt trusting my own instincts which was making me feel worse

@BabyBird20 no I won't be doing that until she has teeth x

Hey all, I haven't posted here in a while! DD is 13 weeks tomorrow and EBF. She's been a fab sleeper (at night, more of a wtf sleeper in the day) but recently discovered the joys of sucking her thumb.

Now all her sleep and hunger cues are off and I'm struggling to tell if thumb sucking is hunger or tiredness (which prob isn't helping the lack of day time sleep/routine).

Anyway she always gets restless and loudly sucks her thumb at 3 and 6 waking me. I've been scooping her up and dream feeding. Do you think the thumb sucking is hunger or am I too quickly going for the old faithful of boob? She's slept through a number of times before now. She's not a crier so doesn't cry when hungry really so can't even wait to see if she cries, plus I'm awake anyway as she sucks so loudly. When I feed her she always takes it for 10 mins or so. What do you think?

Also day time naps which seem to happen at any time are never longer than 40 mins but I read they should be 1-2 hours. Any tips?

@Ginfilledcats I can relate to the loud thumb sucking. It's crazy loud!
I'm not breastfeeding so I'm not sure about the night feeds. DS is waking at 2 lately but really doesn't seem to look for the bottle I just change his nappy and give him a cuddle and he goes to sleep almost straight away. He isnt one to be quiet if he is hungry so I think I'll stick with leaving the bottle out for the moment. It's a 10/15min interruption to sleep compared to the hour when a bottle is involved.
As for naps I've no good tips, DS will sleep for 2hours but only on me or DH - its 20mins max in the moses basket or maybe 40 in the pram as long as we are moving

@Ginfilledcats Ivy is 12 weeks and is a thumb sucker also so I have found it hard more recently to know if she's hungry or just loves her thumb! At night she sucks really loudly but it only has woken me twice last couple of nights but it's normally accompanied by some winging so I feed her and she's fast asleep again quickly.
Ivys naps are rubbish of late so I tend to time a nap with a car ride if we go out or a walk in the park.

@Ginfilledcats only 9 weeks here but having a similar experience. She started sucking her whole fist a couple of weeks ago and it has really thrown me as well but I swaddle her at night so she hasn’t woken me up with it. She does sleep well at night, two feeds around 2 and 5, but is such a pain to get her to nap during the day. It does make me feel better that so many of our babies are the same though, I always feel like it’s something I’m doing wrong but it seems fairly normal. Hoping to hear from those of you reaching 3 months now that things really do get easier like my friends keep promising me!

@UKtoSK haha if I had a pound for every time I've heard "it gets better" we are at 9 weeks too, and like you I'm hoping the 3 month mark might see things a bit more settled. What time does your little one go down of a night?

@SRS1311 I wonder if it really gets better or if some weird Stockholm syndrome level of acceptance kicks in at 3 months... she usually goes down between 8:30 and 9:30, depending on when she was hungry and how long she fed for. Two nights ago when she was having a grumpy day we didn’t get her down until 10:45 though!

Thank you @BabyBird20 glad to know I’m not alone there with no routine!
I’ve been using the baby tracker app and I normally try to get her down for a nap when we’re nearing the 1.5 hour awake mark unless she’s clearly tired before then.

I totally see what you mean about the app causing anxiety @Cornishbumpkin I find that too sometimes with the baby tracker but it is really handy to have the info about how much formula she’s had each day etc. But I’m just trying to use it as Purely data entry.

I’m with you guys on the cues, Grace loves to suck her whole fist so it’s hard to know when she’s hungry. With her hunger and sleep she has no real obvious cues like they say she should have, first ‘cue’ of hunger is usually her crying 🙃 so I’m just going by offering milk every 3 hours (unless she’s clearly crying it for sooner than that) And sleep wise just trying to not let her go too far over 1.5 hours between naps.

I’m really hoping we were just experiencing the 12 week leap a week early as Grace slept 19.50 - 3.15had a feed and then 4 - 7.45 🤯😮 I’ll take that as the new normal please!
Probably just a fluke, but I’m hoping not!

It really gets better! We are 12 weeks today and my first DD was better at 3 months. 'Better' doesn't mean all sorted tho esp for sleep - we had a shocking sleep regression around age 2 with DD1. Like a newborn again. And naps are an ever-moving challenge

For me 3 months means that baby is interactive enough and comprehensible enough. Not every day but interacting with the baby is less like trying to care for an angry little alien- you understand each other a little more than in the early days!

@Ginfilledcats at 13 weeks a 10 minute feed is a very normal feed so I would personally say she's hungry x

Hey ladies , glad I’m not the only one still having sleep trouble , well done to those getting long Stretches at night !

J will fall asleep at 8.30ish now. Will feed when we go bed at 10ish then sleep till 12/1am. After that it’s an every hour/1.5 hour job 😴. He kicks any blanket off so am wondering if he’s waking due to cold ,going to give our snuz sleeping bag a go .

Am enjoying mat leave now dd is back at nursery. Still breastfeeding & He’s still piling on the weight, hes happy chap most times 😁

Went to the loo and came back to find her asleep. Enjoyed a whole 7 minutes of freedom 😂

Haha that's great! I can't believe you left me here mummy and thought I wouldn't notice!

DD was in her bouncer chair the other day at nap time while I had to do something. Nice comfy chair, reclined perfectly for sleeping. She just became more and more grizzly until I picked her up whereupon she sighed and fell instantly to sleep!

Agree with a no routine at all during the day! She can nap for 8 hours throughout the day or she can nap for 2 hours, however she will still sleep 9pm till 6am then after a feed sleep till 8 or 9am! So I cant complain!!!
We start our baby class today! I'm excited, but nervous! X

Hey guys I found you.
Got lost when we moved to new thread!
Is anyone else's 11 week old really clingy?

@UKtoSK what a cutie!
@Pegase My LO is the exact same, gets himself all worked up and then when I pick him up he does the cutest little sigh and falls asleep straight away. Melts my heart. I think he does the sigh to distract me from the fact I need to pee or eat so I just cuddle him instead

Any Little's ones who are starting to teeth we've found the gummee glove really good!

@UKtoSK your pictures looks like my Instagram stories today! Ha ha. I resorted to taking the baby out for a walk in the pram and she slept the whole way. It was lovely, I listened to a podcast whilst we walked.

The afternoon nap was a flop - Fell alseep in my arms, transferred time the crib and woke up 5 mins later!

We were at the hospital this afternoon for a ultrasound check (following a GP referral at the 8 week check) for hip dysplasia and received the all clear. Very relieved about this!