June 2020 Babies-Newborn, snuggles, recovery, milk and night feeds! 2nd thread

[Busylizzie85]

New thread!

Awww that’s so lovey @babbafett and so true ❤️

I read that book to my little one too, it’s so lovely ❤️

@mangoforbreakfast86 I think your original routine sounds very good for a 13 week old. It's very similar to what my 12 week old does (most of the time...). Last night we had the same instance as @babbafett where our LO wouldn't settle until 11pm where recently she has been settling at 9-10pm. It happens!

I can't imagine my LO sleeping as early as 7pm. I'm sure in time as she begins to wean/crawl it will eventually happen but at the moment earlier bedtimes just don't seem on the cards.

My LO will only be rocked to sleep and sleep on me during the day which I'm feeling a bit bad about but I try to take the view that it's positive she is getting the sleep she needs and really we just need to do what gets us through the day! 😊 These newborn days are slipping through my fingers so I am soaking up the cuddles 🥰

@mangoforbreakfast86 I wouldn't worry either. My lo is 14 weeks and falls asleep with us downstairs around 7:30/8 and I take her up with me about 9:30, feed back to sleep for 10 mins then she wakes at 2 then again at 5 then 7:30 then naps til 9. She settles back easily thank god and doesn't feed for long.

My day time naps are bloody chaos! They happen, just with no rhyme or reason or consistent length or gap between. Sometimes she's had to be fed to sleep other times she just falls asleep alone. But never ever sleeps in the pram. Far too exciting!

Thanks so much. 😊 Don’t get me started on day time naps! My LO will only sleep in her pram so I do a lot of walking! She tends to catnap rather than take longer ones. On the rare occasion she does take a nap longer than 30 minutes, rather than use it as an opportunity to do things around the house I stand there staring at how peaceful and beautiful she looks. 🤣 xo

@Magpie21 thank you 😊 Maybe what I’m doing isn’t so bad after all. I guess I feel so much pressure as a lot of the girls in my NCT group claim that their babies have a strict bedtime routine and are fantastic sleepers so I thought that I must be too soft on my daughter or doing something wrong xo

@babbafett what a beautiful way of seeing it. I have ordered that book too. Thanks so much 💕 xo

We do try and have a routine, but like others have said its hit and miss really. He will usually go to bed at 8pm ish but through the night he is restless and fidgety although not necessarily wanting a bottle. I just spend the whole night soothing him and wondering whether I should just give him a bottle - I get no sleep!

@babbafett that book sounds lovely, I think I will order it too!

@mangoforbreakfast86 in order to provide balance, not one of the mums in my nct group have a routine and we have some good, some bad and some ok sleepers. I agree with a pp that good sleepers are born!

@SRS1311 I know the feeling, my little one likes me to hold her hand or rub her belly to help settle her during the night!

What was everyone’s little ones like after the 12 week jabs. Grace has hers Friday and had a bit of a temp on Friday afternoon. Then yesterday during the day she was a bit off her milk, then last night she had three really big feeds 4 hours apart, then this mor big seems off her milk again and is extra snoozy.
I’m not sure if this is a growth spurt or jab related? Her temp is 36.8 so she doesn’t have a fever which he good.

Re:routines, however early I take DD up to bed, she doesn't settle until at least 10pm which seems ridiculously late, but that's just how it is for now. Hopefully it'll get earlier over time. Once she settles she generally does a 4-5 hour stint, wakes for a dream feed then back down for about 3 hours. Daytime naps can be non existent or up to 3 hours! I'm trying to just go with the flow, but would love a slightly more predictable pattern.

@Gigitree my LO was off his feed a little after his 12 week jabs. I think that was because his legs hurt from the injections and the position I put him in to breastfeed exacerbates the pain. Feeding expressed milk using a bottle was completely fine. He was more clingy and not himself for 2 to 3 days. Now back to normal.

Thank you @Missgemini reassuring to hear that it’s not just my little one who seems to be suffering a bit with them. I wasn’t really expecting it as everyone says the first and third lot are worse. But other than a temperature the first lot were a breeze in comparison to these 😩

Breastfeeding ladies , have any of you had trouble getting lo to take a bottle ? J used to take expressed milk fine from a medela bottle until a few weeks ago , he flat out refused and gags on the bottle . we have tried mam with the same result . Not sure what to do , he’s still waking 2 hourly so I wouldn’t mind a hand with night feeds (pure selfish reason I Just want to express and get a good few hours kip ! 🤣)

@mj2196 we're not having the same issue here. Sorry to hear that. He tends to have an expressed bottle, on average, once ever 2 days. He might be unimpressed initially, but ends up taking it. Perhaps it's something to do with a difference in your breast flow vs test flow? Sorry, not much help

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@mangoforbreakfast86 I agree with what others said re sleep, baby has her own ideas about when she wants to sleep and wake and nothing we do changes that. Some nights it all goes perfectly and then some nights (like last night) she just won’t settle until way past her normal time. I just wanted to say our routine is similar to yours. Either bath or wash with cloths and then into our room, lights low for pjs, swaddle and feed and she usually falls asleep feeding. I have no choice but to feed her to sleep because that’s just what she does. I can’t not feed her and I can’t wake her up just to settle her again so I just go with it. The nights she won’t feed to sleep are the ones I worry about!

Anyone else find the lack of sleep worse now than at the beginning? It’s like the better she sleeps the more I feel it when there are a few days of poor sleep and the more tired I am the less I am able to turn off and end up lying awake obsessively checking she’s still breathing.

@Mj2196 yes my little one refuse for about 3 weeks but now takes it again happily but only IF she's hungry hungry
I don't give her one often tho probs once a week only

@UKtoSK thank you. 😊 Yes I definitely feel the tiredness more now than in the early days. At the beginning I was in survival mode and felt I was running on adrenalin the whole time. I felt totally wired. I also expected to have absolutely zero sleep. As the weeks have passed and my LO has generally become better at sleeping for longer chunks, I feel completely wiped out on the nights she decides not to. It’s strange isn’t it?! xo

@SearchingTheSkies I hope that predictability will come when they get older. I’d also love to eat a hot dinner too. 🤣 xo

Our daytime routine is 4 naps averaging around 45 minutes, she has to be cuddled to sleep, but then we can set her down... so bit of a disaster as she fights falling asleep in the pram 🙈

Shes good at night tho! 9 till 5, then feed and back down till 8.30ish. She 11 Weeks, so not looking forward to this sleep regression lol x

@Busylizzie85 my 6 wk old has been suffering with reflux since age 3 weeks, was treating for ‘colic’with colief drops but then on thurs she was just screaming in what was definitely pain, so went to pharmacy and got the ‘gavsicon infant’ i have a new happy content baby again it was lile magic.
It can cause constipation so am watching out for that now but day 4 of gaviscon and so far so good. Its pricey for the box so if baby settles on it then ask gp to prescribe for your baby.
Keep your health visitor updated as to what your doing aswell so they can help and advise. It was my HV who recommended the gaviscon.

@NelliePig mine sleeping similar will do about 9.30-5.30 then back down for another hour or so after I've fed her DREADING a regression

Thanks @MurphyL she seems much better recently and since being on formula she's more settled during the day! Im hoping she's naturally grown out of the worst of it now 🤞🏼

Just to add to the sleep perspective

My son- started his own bedtime routine at 6 weeks. Would just scream in our faces all evening so we used to bath at 545 put to sleep at 6pm (always fed to sleep but stayed asleep so 💁‍♀️💁‍♀️💁‍♀️)
Slept through the night from 14 weeks and used to sleep 6pm-9am!!

Dd- has fought the bedtime routine for weeks and has finally relented.
Still wakes for a night bottle around 3am
Is wide awake at 630 every morning
She was 17 weeks on Sunday

Hi Everyone, hope you are enjoying the last fee days if summer! My LO had her 12 week jabs yesterday and has reacted very well I'm pleased to report.

She seems to have developed an aversion to her pram. We had been enjoying some lovely walks and for the past 4 trips she has cried most of the time. Wonder if anyone else has found this? Hopefully 'just a phase'!