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dal21 · 17/09/2007 08:26

Hi ladies - cannot see a thread for the sept ladies who have popped. Thought I would start one (hope I havent been totally blind and missed one already set up)

we can share our trials and tribulations of our LO's here!

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emj23 · 29/10/2007 18:26

Hello all. I hope you and all the babies are doing brilliantly, sorry I haven't posted in ages but the number of hours in a day seems to have halved. I haven't had time to read all the posts either so I hope I haven't missed anything vital.

Lily is very well, DP and DS adore her and are being very helpful. I'm so glad me and DP are taking it in turns to do the night shift otherwise I'd be going mad from lack of sleep. Lily has decided that the daytime is for being asleep and that the time of day to be at her most bright-eyed and alert is between 3 and 6 AM which can be a bit trying...

Anyway, hopefully I'll be able to catch up with this board at some point and join in the conversation properly.

amyclaramum · 29/10/2007 19:55

Hi Everyone - hope you had a good weekend ?

Sophus - the funeral sounds a really lovely "send off" for your Mum and I'm so glad that Linus was such a star for you. Take care and let yourself grieve now after all the organising and anxiety of the funeral.

PLP - I completely agree with what Kinki so eloquently wrote ! You are such a lovely Mumsnetter - always so encouraging and helpful - if I was going through what you are with Cerys I would be useless to anyone ! Please come and rant on here as much as you need to and we can support you as much as we can. (I thought of you on Sat when I was watching X factor with my DD's !)

Twit - is it the big day this week ? Congratulations and hope you all have a lovely day !!

Chatty - lovely to hear from you ! I was wondering how it was all going ?

Sorry can't remember who was having trouble keeping DD amused when bf - I had the same problem with my dd1 and dd2 ! I did get her to get her baby dolly and change her and feed her etc when I was feeeding . I also used to read her lots of stories !!
good luck anyway !

love to everyone else !

Hopeitwontbebig · 29/10/2007 20:02

I've just read a few posts and they've brought a tear (many tears) to my eyes.

Sophus, I just want to send you my heartfelt condolences, I am so sorry to hear about your Mum.

PLP, kinki and dal, thank you so much for thinking of me. PLP I echo what kinki said, so very well put kinki, and I'll try and take your advice, but in the meantime can I join that club?

I'm still very much up and down. Need to book my 6 week check with GP this week. Will discuss feelings with him. Still on this rollercoaster, looking forward to it stopping.

MrsFish · 29/10/2007 20:27

Edie - Hope you are feeling better soon.

Emj - Ben is exactly the same, is very awake after his 3-4am feed, it takes me till 6am ish to get him to sleep, by which time its almost time to get up again, very tiring. DH has been helping me out approx every other night with the 10-11pm feed where I have been going to bed at about 9pm but I am still only averaging about 5 hours sleep a night, can't even catch up in the day because of Sam [yawn] I am finding I keep falling asleep on the bed with Sam when I take him to bed, which I must stop otherwise he will get too used to it and I'll be making a rod for my own back Roll on Christmas, I'm hoping to get him sleeping through the night by then

Well I had my first drive in the car on sunday (3 weeks in from c-section) DH has taken that to mean I can now start doing nursery runs again Its going to be more difficult sorting two of them out to get Sam to Nursery for 9am 3 days a week but something I must get used to I suppose routine routine routine

laksa · 29/10/2007 20:57

Hi guys,

Purple lost, Kinki said it so much more eloquently than I can. You are not selfish, you always offer us help and advice and if you can't offload here where can you? I kind of understand where you are coming from with the whole people telling you you're coping well. Sometimes I don't want to be told I'm doing really well, I just want someone to tell me everything will be alright and lift some of the responsibility from my shoulders.

Sophus, sounds like your mums funeral was a perfect tribute to her. I'm so sorry you have to go through this. Losing your mother just when you become one is so unfair.

Mrsbumblebee, sorry about Pauls lack of weight gain. It is so worrying not knowing how much they are getting isn't it? Before I had Bella I thought the main problem with breastfeeding was going to be sore nipples, now I know it is the constant worry not knowing if your baby is getting enough milk!

Mrsfish, I have just had my first poo in the bath incident. There I was taking pictures of Bella in the bath and when I put the camera down, she had managed to turn the water a lovely mustardy hue...I have a pic of her doing it but I just didn't notice as I was clicking!

Chattyhan, only 4 nappies! He definitely needs to up his quota I have the same thing with bella, she is very grizzily during the day and time seems to go quicker if you are out and about than if you are stuck at home.

Mrsmar, sorry luca has got thrush hope it clears up quickly.

Well, I had good weekend, love having dh home to share nappy changes On sunday we went to visit my little brother who is studying at Cambridge and pretended we were students...took Bella to her first student bar and survived eating in the dodgy dining hall at my brothers college, it looks lovely like the great hall at Hogwarts but the food is grim!

Goodnight xx

Twitsthatgobumpinthenight · 30/10/2007 16:24

AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGG

ok, so it's the BIG DAY tomorrow and this very morn I had NO ring and NO outfit.

So I went to have my haircut [very nice] and then on to the very few shops in town to see what would A] fit over my belly and B] fit over my humungus norks and C] not trail across the floor.

NOT A SAUSAGE.

So I tried to find a ring. Again no luck. But then, my luck turned, and she went to look in the [ahem] scrap drawer and hey presto! A perfect ring, just my thing, white gold [wanted platinum but hey ho] thick and kinda chunky, too big but they promised to shrink it for me ready for collection tomorrow. They then suggested a shop that takes good clothes and tells them on for you, giving you some of the money if it sells.
So off I trotted [lol] and saw this really nice coloured/patterned thing. Hoping it was a pretty dress, I found to my dismay that it was in fact a long skirt with a matching top and scarf. [all together rather grim tbh]
Not to be daunted though, I tried the skirt on and hoiked it up over my norks, the lady found me a co-ordinating wrap top, over which goes my new purple coat and my new purple shoes.

So I have found a really off beat outfit, which suits my personality, kind of fits all for the princely sum of 54 english pounds.

YYYYIIIIIPPPPPPEEEEEE

Anyways I hope all is well with everyone. The big day is tomorrow, Hallowe'en [lol] so wish me luck.
Oh and the in-laws are still saying they're not coming.
I mean seriously, do they really think I give a crap?

dal21 · 30/10/2007 17:27

quick note to you twit. have a wonderful day tomorrow - will be thinking about you!
i bet it will be a magical day. do post some pics on here after the event. lotsa love and hugs!

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kinki · 30/10/2007 17:46

Have a twit-tastic day tomorrow Twit! Hope it all comes together for you. You're my kinda gal leaving it all to the day before to do the ever so slightly important things like getting a ring.

I wouldn't worry about the in-laws. Their loss. If they're anything like mine, tomorrow they'll be busy dusting down their broomsticks.

Hope the little twits have a lovely day, and you and Mr Twit too. Be thinking of you! Oh and huge congratulations to you all too!

MrsFish · 30/10/2007 17:46

Good luck for tomorrow twit

kyala · 30/10/2007 18:53

PLP Just a little (((hug))) for you, you sound like anyone would, we all struggle with different things (and the other's are right our problems seem like nothing compared to your's) but we're women and the simple fact is that, despite having these troubles, you haven't yet caved in and decided to give up!
You'll probably get sick of being told how brave you are and all that, and most people would be doing the same in this situation because this is what having children is all about! We overcome all obstacles, but we don't need to feel alone doing this, there is help and I'm glad you have support around you, so if you do need to give up and go and have a breather then just do it, your loved one's will totally understand (I do that even when all I'm doing is changing a nappy! LOL)

Hang in there hun
xxx

cupcake78 · 30/10/2007 19:45

Just a quick catch up. Have quickly read a few.

DS also fussed alot when I BF but this turned into a frustrated and hundry fight which is one of the reasons why I decided to switch to bottles. I understand that fussing like this is very common for new baby's.

I am pleased to report that DS is settling alot better at the moment. He actually when 4.5hrs between night feeds last night , what a difference that made!!

As for the Grandparents OH MY GOD ---
They just don't seem to get that I am not in the house all the time waiting for them to visit!! They were told yesterday I was busy most of the week and yet they have just called to see when they can come round! funny but I am still busy for most of the week. short of screaming at them what else can I do.

kinki · 31/10/2007 17:03

Hello everyone, hope you are all ok. It's quiet on here today . Anyone going out trick or treating? I've managed to get away with it this year (phew) as dh has taken ds1 out to a footie match (Chelsea, they better win or we'll be in for megasulks methinks). But I suppose the flip side is that I'm now in tonight and I have to answer the door to hoards of little ghosts and ghoulies. Round here we get loads of little kiddies come round early on then after 9, all the teenagers come round. They are all good kids, I love to see them, but I may bring the pumpkin in when ds2&3 go to bed and then hide behind the settee. I'll tell you how good the kids are round here - last friday we went to the seaside, on the way back we went shopping and then I dropped dh off at the pub and came home. In the rush to bring in all the stuff and shopping from the car I somehow managed to leave my camera on the path. An hour later 3 lads (age about 14) knocked on the door to hand it in. I'm a photographer, and my camera is worth over £1000. I was soooo lucky.

Not much news this end. Liam had another osteopathy appt today, which seemed to go well. They and me are pleased with his progress so far, mainly because his neck isn't so rigidly turned to the side. Some more work is needed, but we're optomistic. The colic and sickness should improve when his neck and body is not so twisted. The hv called yesterday to weigh Liam. He's a whopping 10lb now, that's 4.5lb gained in 9 wks, so something's obviously going in the top end ok. Apparently I scored quite high in the pnd questionnaire. Now don't get me wrong, the hv was very lovely but she was a bit clumsy with words. I asked her if I need to be worried yet as he isn't smiling, she replied 'he's probably just picking up on your sadness'. So no pressure on me then. Good job I know its just a load of bollocks. But I wonder how I might have reacted if I was a little more vulnerable than I am. Never mind, as I say she was generally well meaning and very nice.

I wonder how twit's day went? Hope it went really well. Plp, sorry I never came back sober. Hope things are going well for all the family this week. You must feel like its an endless round of appointments. Gee, if anyone needs a breather its you. Hopey, hows little Niamh and her big bros. I bet you'll be dragged round the houses tonight! Try and grab some of their chocolate if you can! Thinking of you.

Big hello to everyone else. I'm off now, and I'm secretly hoping that we don't have too many trick or treaters so that I can eat all the chocolate I've got in for them!

Holly29 · 31/10/2007 18:54

Hello everyone and SORRY for being away so long. I hate to admit it, but I think I stayed away because I have found the last 6 weeks so hard and I was scared that people would be doing so much better than me that it would depress me even more... But today I met Dal21 for lunch (waves at Dal21 ) and she told me that everyone has actually not been all gung-ho and in fact everyone has actually been just very supportive. I know that I should have trusted you all!

George and I are actually doing OK now after wound infection/mastitis combo. Still exhausted of course, but at least no longer exhausted and ill...

I just wanted to say - Sophus - I missed the news re your Mum and I just wanted to say that I am so very sorry. I cannot begin to imagine what a tough time you have had and it really puts things into persective. Every best wish.

love to all.

amyclaramum · 31/10/2007 20:54

hello everyone ! Its really quiet today isn't it ? We are not going t+ting - my DD2 gets really bad nightmares so I don't like to encourage her being scared by witches/ghosts etc etc!! My dd1 is going with her friends so I will be hiding behind the sofa with Eloise and Clara !!

We went to baby clinic this morning and Eloise has put on 13oz in 2 weeks - hurrah !-but still on the 9th percentile though! Glad Liam is doing so well Kinki ! Sorry about the HV !! They haven't done the pnd questionnaire with me yet - when are they supposed to do it ? Eloise is still awful all evening and then sleeps from about 10 ish to 4 ish. I have been invited to a Christmas party and wondering if I could go with her being so fretful - will have to find a really good babysitter (my parents and pil don't do babysitting as live too far away!) However have got nothing to wear that fits me - pity its not fancy dress - could go as a pudding !!

Anyway love to you all xx

MrsFish · 01/11/2007 06:55

Morning all.

Well I had the best night with Ben so far he is now taking 4-5 ounces of milk every feed now and back up to practically every 4 hours and sometimes more. Last night he had a bottle at 5.30 and I then had to wake him up at 10.30 for a feed as I was knackered and wanted to go to bed He then woke at 1.45 but settled much quicker than he has done before now (maybe the new formula is agreeing with him?) he is still asleep now after waking me up at 6am, I have got his bottle all ready and the little bugger has gone back to sleep He seems to have the biggest deepest sleep from about 5pm in the evenings, I could do with it being from 10ish ideally, hopefully we'll get there soon

MrsBumblebee · 01/11/2007 08:45

Hi everyone. MrsFish, glad you had such a good night. I reckon I got about six hours sleep last night in total, so that was a bit of a record too! ACM, lol at prospect of dressing up as a pudding. If only Halloween had fallen while we were all still pregnant, eh? Holly, so glad that you've come back to us. Speaking personally, I've had an absolutely hellish first six weeks, and that's without any of the really proper difficulties that people like poor PLP and Sophus have had, so you'll be in very good company! Kinki, re the smiling, I was told by someone that it's actually a test of their vision rather than their emotional state, which I found quite comforting (Paul has only just started smiling). My reckoning is that if you have a colicky baby who spends his time crying, it's hardly surprising if he's a bit late smiling, because he never has an opportunity to copy you smiling at him! All this thing about 'picking up on your sadness' is just a load of cobblers.

Well, things here are much better. Can't remember what was happening last time I posted, but we've now basically established that Paul was crying because he was hungry all the time, and not getting enough milk from me. I'm now topping him up with formula each feed, and he's a completely different child. I don't know why he wasn't getting the food - his latch was fine, and my supply was fine, and I was feeding him for hours. My best guess is that the problem is a minor tongue-tie - he certainly hates putting his tongue forward - which was stopping him stripping the breast effectively. I obviously feel dreadfully guilty that the poor little thing was hungry all that time, and a little bit annoyed that all the health professionals insisted it wasn't hunger (though, to do them credit, they also all insisted it wasn't colic), but at least I know the answer now. Since I've started topping up, he's put on a whopping eight and a half ounces in six days, and most of the crying is a thing of the past. It's such a relief, I can't tell you!

I've reluctantly decided to give up the breastfeeding altogether. I could carry on mixed feeding like this, but to be honest I don't really think it's sustainable in the long term. Now that I've made a decision, I actually feel much more positive. Does anyone have any advice on stopping the breastfeeding? I'm thinking of gradually cutting down the time on the breast at each feed, rather than dropping a feed at a time, seeing as I'm going to be topping him up with formula at each feed anyway - has anyone else done this??

Hope everyone's doing well. Twit, massive congratulations, and hope you had a fantastic day! I hope you can post some photos.

kyala · 01/11/2007 13:14

Afternoon all, hope you all had a good evening last night and not too harrassed by the spirits of the night! [hgrin]
We're very lucky in that there's only one other family with children that actually bother with Trick or Treating, and they didn't even come knocking last night (DH went and bought a tin of Roses for the event too LOL Oh well we'll have to eat them then!! Although I might make a little bag for them later and drop them at their house for when they get home from school.)

Holly: Sorry to hear you've been having such a hard time, but glad things are a bit better now {hgrin}

I had a lovely night last night, spent a good 3 hours in bed with DH (with the door open so I could hear Lucy) and was really happy to be able to spend those few hours actually feeling like a woman (as opposed to a walking milk machine!)
Normally if I get into bed with DH Lucy will start calling after about half an hour, despite being asleep when I put her in my room, I guess she can just sense when I'm not there.

I've managed to get a friend to agree to come to the surgery with me for my 6 week check up, to watch the girls whilst I go in (only realised the other night that I can't really have a smear with two kids in the room LOL) and we're going to make a day of it and have coffee and lunch etc, it'll be my first real proper day out of the house since Lucy was born!

We went to tot's group yesterday, despite getting up an hour late, which meant it was rather a short play time for DD1 after a rather long walk there, and both girl's decided the walk back that they weren't going to sleep either [hhmm] Are they ganging up on me already?

That seems to be about all that's gone on the past day or so, although I was well proud of myself yesterday, we managed to have dinner all eaten and sorted by quarter to 7 (a miracle as lately I don't get round to putting the cooker on until half 6!)
Right, off to make cute little bags to put sweets in for neighbour's kids [hgrin]
xxx

Chattyhan · 02/11/2007 10:07

Hello everyone! I can't believe it's november already! Well, things with me are fine, had my 6 week check on tues and all is well. Alex now weighs 10lb 13oz and is thriving despite only 10mins boob at each feed which makes it easy for me to feed on the go and less boring for ds1. Alex has an umbilical hernia but dr said not too worry it will probably go on it's own and if not a small op at approx 3yrs.

Feeds are still every 2-3 hrs in the day but we are still having a 4-5 hr at night which keeps me sane [hwink] DS1 has settled in ok at playgroup so i have a couple of hrs just me and Alex which is really great.

Hope everyone had a good Halloween - We tried to get into the spirit with a Halloween cake, banner, costumes, balloons and carving pumpkins. We took ds1 out for a walk around the block to see all the others dressed up but didn't knock on strangers doors just a couple of neighbours! The highlight was definately Alex in his pumpkin outfit!

MrsBumblebee - i think your idea for going to ff is fine. I've heard most people drop a feed at a time but i think your plan should work just fine. I'm glad paul is more settled.

Amyclaramum - good news about eloise's weight. I think pnd questionaire is supposed to be at 8 weeks so maybe you need to remind your hv?

MrsFish - sounds like ben is doing great

Holly - nice to have you back, come and moan to us it's what we're hear for and we really understand! I've been very fortunate with Alex i remember things were very difficult with ds1. No sleep for days on end and a very fretful hungry baby. I don't think i got dressed until 6 weeks! [hwink]

Kyala - glad you had a good check up! Sounds like a fun day!

Kinki - great news about the camera and i hope you start to see improvement in Liam soon!

Twit - am i right in thinking you've just got married? Congratualtions xx

Well sorry to anyone i've missed MIL is visiting today so best go make the beds and wash up breakfast!

Nicki10 · 02/11/2007 11:34

Morning All

Congratulations Twit I hope you had a lovely day and I want to hear all the details.

Kyala your 6 week check sounds like it will be a lovely day I might do the same with mine so then you have something to look forward to after!.

Holly I'm sorry you've had a rough time with illness but glad that your starting to feel better!.

Well I am trying to get out of the house everyday for as long as possible to keep myself sane! Does anyone else feel like this?. If I'm at home on my own with Poppy the days just seem so long and hard!. Why is it that the week days really drag and the weekends so in a flash!.

I also seem to have a baby that doesn't sleep so were having a battle of the wills where I put her in her crib knowing she's ok and let her cry it out until she settles otherwise she gets overtired. The thing is I've never managed to leave her in her cot crying for more than 4 minutes without getting her out. Do you think it's bad to leave them in the cot crying? Does anyone else put their lo's in the cot awake?

dal21 · 02/11/2007 11:36

Hi everyone - very quiet on here!

Holly - so glad to see you posted. Had a really lovely lunch the other day, was great to meet a fellow mnetter in RL!

Have had a mixed couple of days. DH has been working ridiculously late and Ryan mixes between being an absolute poppet/ damien the devil child. . to be fair, last night was the first night in ages where he was grizzly at night - had to give in and take him to bed in the end to get some sleep. But it feels as though we are settling into a routine of sorts with the odd off night - fingers crossed it continues and the feeds start to stretch out. am still doing 3 hourly during the day and when lucky stretching to 4 hours on occasion at nighttime.

question - those who have experience with bfed babies, when do you expect feeds to start stretching out - am hoping it happens sometime between now and 12 weeks (ryan is weeks old today! where has the time gone?)

Twit - wonder how your day went? looking forward to hearing.

PLP/ Hopey - hope you are both doing ok, thinking of you both

Kyala - time with your dh sounds lush. am very . DH and i are like ships that pass in the night right now. he comes in late and i have gone to bed at 7.30/ 8 when I put ryan down. DH does dreamfeed and comes to bed. i then take over again if we're lucky - morning feed coincides with DH leaving for work so bub and I get kiss and cuddle. Am trying to plan a night without ryan between xmas and new year - for our 2nd wedding anniversary - depends if the hotel i want to go to will accept a one night booking over the festive period. fingers and toes they will - as mum will happily take ryan.

gotta run, ryan has started to grizzle (darned postman woke him up)...sorry to others for not responding to their posts. hugs to all.

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dal21 · 02/11/2007 11:41

Nicki - xposts.

Ryan has not learned to fall asleep in the cot himself yet. He only stays down if I have sent him to sleep on my shoulder (using shush pat technique from baby whisperer). I let ryan grizzle for a while if he wakes up as on occasion he has managed to send himself back to sleep but i have not been letting him cry it out - BW doesnt recommend it of which I am glad. What I am starting to try is sitting with him shushing as opposed to picking him up - hasnt worked so far...but perseverence and patience!

do what works for you.

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kyala · 02/11/2007 12:31

Afternoon all,
Nicki10: I think it's probably a case of finding your own method with crying babies. With DD1 I wouldn't let her cry in the cot, mainly cos I had time to go straight to her and pick her up, or sit with her and shh her to sleep etc, but with Lucy I tend to let her cry for a little while, and I'm usually quite lucky and she'll drop off after realising that there's really nothng to be crying about. I just make sure her nappy's dry and she's well fed and burped etc that way my I'm not worried, unless she gets herself in a proper state and then I'll just walk her around giving little whispers (my girl's love whispers, even DD1 and she's 2yo LOL)

Have had a gorgeous morning today Lucy has been giving me LOADS of smiles and she's now just led in her basket cooing and gurgling. DD1 is watching Balamory happily and I've managed to whip myself up a pretty skirt!
Am planning on going for a little walk after lunch, as the weather's so nice, might have to still wrap the girls up though

Last night's cuddle with DH turned into a nightmare, should've known the night before was just a one off LOL
We tried to sit and watch POTC (world's end) and DD1 woke up late into it and started shouting and screaming for no reason, so I went up and tried to settle her, every time I went to walk out she'd get herself in a state, in the end got sick of it and just left her screaming. About an hour and half later went to bed and she woke up again to scream at us, told her that if she woke Lucy she'd be in trouble, she sat down crying 10 minutes later she's done a poo (cause of all the trouble methinks )
Finally got into bed with DH 5 minutes of chatting and settling and then Lucy wakes (if it's not one it's the other, eh?!) So that was the end of that!

Oh well, I managed to have sweet dreams (thanks to Johnny Depp X )

Anywho, off to make lunch
xxx

dal21 · 02/11/2007 13:28

fab link from a bfeeding thread re. evening fussiness.

www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/fussy-evening.html

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kyala · 03/11/2007 10:57

How quiet is it in here?!
What are you all up to then?
I'm baking bread (yet again) and I'll probably make a cake too, just for the sake of it.
We've nearly finished all those Roses that DH bought for Hallow'een (well, I say "we", I mean me! )
I've got my little brother coming round, folr the first time since Lucy was born (and this is the one that lives down the road!!)

Tonight is the Clan's bonfire party (the "clan" being my father-in-law's side of the family, there's like a million of them!) I love going to their bonfire parties, it's like a proper Pagan ceremonial burning, they all start howling and screeching at the fire (I don't think it's intentional, they just get excited LOL) the draw back to the event is that there is ALWAYS one firework that goes haywire, and twice I've nearly got it in the face!! The first time it landed in the field the other side of the hedge that I was standing right next to, I had just found out I was pregnant too so was really worried after that that the shock would affect the baby!
The second time was the next year, luckily DD1 was being held by granddad, I would've dropped her if she was with me, I had to duck!!
I think this year I shall be hiding behind a tree

Anyone else doing anythng nice tonight?

Hope you all have a good evening and that the noises aren't too disturbing for all your little cherubs
I know Lucy will probably be sleeping through the whole thing, I plan on putting her in the sling just in case
xxx

Chattyhan · 03/11/2007 11:51

kyala - enjoy your bonfire party and i keep alert for those low flying fireworks! It's just another night in front of the tv for me as dp is djing and he'll have the car. Would have liked to have done something but too much hastle on my own with the 2 dc! Hopefully we'll see some out the window!

Put Alex in a grobag for the first time last night and he went from 10pm until 4am the longest yet!

Dal21 - i'm not too sure if there is a time feeds start stretching out! ds1 fed every 1-3 hrs until he was weaned and then started dropping feeds in replacement of food. Alex is feeding every 2-3 hrs with one longer patch at night. These growth spurts that keep cropping up means just when you've got them going longer they start to feed more frequently again!

Nicky - i agree it's up to you if you want to leave lo to cry. Alex gets left crying sometimes when i'm busy with ds1 or in the bath and he screams louder and angrier and then stops probably when he realises no ones coming! I didn't leave ds1 to cry because i didn't like to and i could go to him until he was about 7 months and waking frequently in the night. We haven't really started a routine with Alex so he just falls asleep whenever/wherever but sometimes i put him in his moses basket awake when i'm busy and he nods off without protest!

Enjoy your weekend everyone!