Septermber 07 poppers.....please meet here!

[dal21]

Hi ladies - cannot see a thread for the sept ladies who have popped. Thought I would start one (hope I havent been totally blind and missed one already set up)

we can share our trials and tribulations of our LO's here!

Hello - HIWBB glad you got some sleep last night luckily Alex is sleeping quite well at the moment but my DS1 was a nightmare. Things we tried were a sheepskin in the moses basket which we're using again this time and seems to have a brilliant effect, something in the bed that smells of mummy eg. used muslin, hotwater bottle to warm the bed and failing that get someone else to pace around with the baby for as long as possible while you sleep!

Hope things improve xx

hello, another one handed typer here. hiwbb - glad you are feeling better, poor thing, are u taking any vitamins? You might need some more zinc or b6 and a good multi-vit could help.

i have an amby natures nest for anna but havent used it yet, she is in bed with me at the moment. anyone else got one?

anna much prefers sleeping on her side, is that bad?

i LOVE the smell of her too, thought i was the only one .

Hello

I thought I better start posting here. I dont recozine anyones names from here, but im from the Oct thread, but jumped ahead
I had my baby Jasmine on 21.09. She weighed 5lb 3oz and had a 48 mintue later.
We are both home and doing well. My boobs are killing me already and im sick of every MW telling me to make sure i feed her atleast 4 hourly, as she is little, hmmm like i would let her stave.
My other DD Tanisha is 4 years old and was also tiny at 5lb.
I hope your all well, and getting enough rest (hmm whats that word mean again )

L

Hello lisa and welcome Jasmine!

My little girl is 5 days old today and so lovely, no baby blues yet, I am hoping to have missed them this time. My boobs are huge but so far not painful.

My tummy is awful though, still a big squishy ball that makes me look 5 months gone, can't remember when it finally went down last time. Argh!

Morning ladies

Hope you are well and enjoying little ones - I am still on cloud nine and besotted with litle Millie - she is such a good baby, or maybe it is just less frantic than having two at once this time around!

Canadianmum, i know your twins are a bit older than mine but how are you finding it having one this time around? Me and DH keep commenting that we didn't seem to find the time to just sit and watch and cuddle and enjoy the DTs like we are with Millie, or perhaps it is just that I feel more relaxed and confident this time and have not read a single book which confused the pants off me last time

I am really enjoying BF with her as I never knew if i had enough milk for the twins but this time I have a spare boob available if she is still hungry!

HIWBB, hope you are feeling better and the flat feeling has lifted a bit.

Kinki, hope your sciatica pain is better, and I am still very impressed about the weight!

Tink - hope Will is settling a bit better and that your scar is ok. Mine has opened a bit at the end but not infected so far. Last time i got a slight infection but antibiotics cleared it up really quickly.

Chatty - hope DP has pulled his socks up a bit and is giving you a bit more support with the DSs.

Lisa welcome and congrats on Jasmine.

Must go - have another round of visitors arriving soon for cuddles and cuppas - they are bringing cakes though - my golden rule

Hi all, hope everything is going well for you all. Kinki, sorry to hear about the sciatica , but 'well' impressed about your weight. I've not dared get on the scales!

So far I seem to be recovering amazingly well from my cs, vry little pain. I just have to be careful not to bend down and pick things up.

Seem to have my really wobbly moments late afternoon. Yesterday I was pretty bad a few hours, just felt MASSIVELY anxious, horrible feeling. Just lots of panicky thoughts popping into my head. The way I explained it to DH is that it feels like there is a war in my brain between the rational part and the irrational, and the irrational part is winning! Have to confess to taking a low dose Diazepam yesterday which helped calm me down. The problem with that is I'm not sure how safe it is to BF. So Niamh is ending up with both BF and FF. I'm BF feeding her right now, but I find that she doesn't bite down hard like she used to, so I'm thinking she's not getting much milk, so I end up topping up her feed with some formula. She just nibbles very gently, is she getting any milk doing this? Odd, my boobs don't seem to be as engorged as they were after having my boys and I didnt even bf them, yet I had enough milk for 10 babies then , this is all new to me ... help!

I don't want to end up 'drip' b/feeding all day and all night because I have 2 other children to consider and of course DH needs me to do his physio, so can't have little Niamh on me all the time, and it seems that all the books say to establish bf that's what you need to do.. I've got a breast pump, so am expressing also to try and get supply going, so my plan is eventually to wean her off formula and just give breast milk. Although, have I caused her confusion going from teat to nipple.

ps sorry for long one! You'd think this being my 3rd baby I'd have it all sussed, but this feels very new to me!

hammerhead - my boys are 4.5 and having this baby is about as different as can be from the first time round. Boys were in SCBU for 4 weeks so I didn't get to enjoy this bit at all, it is heaven to just let her lie on me for an hour after a feed rather than having another baby to fuss over. And you are so right about having another boob ready and waiting. I can actually read while she feeds rather than desperately trying to hold 2 heads in place! And of course DH is getting a full night's sleep in the spare room so he is on great form in the day! . So far I am loving this!

HIWBB - you poor thing, I don't know anything about diazepam I am afraid, might want to ask GP or midwife about that. Sounds like you just have way too many balls in the air at the moment. Do you have anyone who can come and help? Niamh may feed a lot at the moment, that just helps establish supply and then it should ease off. Can you speak to your midwife? My lo is feeding for about 40 mins at a time (every few hours) at the moment which will be tricky when DH goes back to work next week but I am just letting her do it at the moment and am hoping she will get more efficient in next few days. Keep strong and ask for help from your midwife!!

Hi canadianmum, thanks for your post. I've got my lovely step-mum here at the moment, but sadly she goes home tomorrow, then I've got DH here for his two weeks paternity leave. But DH is very much restricted as to what he can do with DD which makes me SO sad . We're still waiting for a referral for a specialist OT to see if there is anything that we can get to enable DH to pick DD up and wind her etc etc.

Hi everyone. Another September baby to add to the list - our little girl arrived on Wednesday after a very short labour (quite different from the 2 day marathon for her brother!)

I really thought I was having a boy so we hadn't considered girls names, but we think she might be Amelia. Maybe.

I was worried that DS might not be impressed with his sister, but he adores her and calls her 'my baby'. And has also told me 'Baby drinking 'meeble' (nipple)'

Hi guys. Im a first timer! Was due last week (the 17th) and still waiting for junior to arrive

Any other overdue mums out there?

Lu xx

hiwbb - sorry you are feeling up and down ! I have been feeling really anxious too and sort of on the edge of tears all the time but I think its due to the sleep deprivation. My dh doesn't do any of the night time thing as he works long hours and is under alot of pressure so its all down to me but I am suffering! I think we just have to remember that this stage will pass. Re feeding Eloise has been doing that kind of snacking feeding like you describe(my other 2 were guzzlers!). I have been giving her bottles of formula to top up (told to do this by mw due to her weight loss) and she happily switches from bottle to boob (also has a dummy !) I think you just have to do what is best for you and your family !Take care of your self - step mum sounds fab !

love to all the poppers !

Anyone heard from PLP - was wondering how Cerys was ?

Hi hopey, givus some diazapam, go on, pleeeese? If I had some to hand I'd probably be taking it too. I've no idea either if its ok with bf, but like Canmum says, maybe ask mw/hv/gp. (I'm about to ring my hv about some pills I'm taking. They're making me ill and giving Liam diarrhea, so I need to check its ok to keep taking them, all they are are calcium ffs!). About wondering if Niamh is getting enough milk, have you had her weighed recently? I've decided to go by weight gain as to how well Liam is feeding. They told me to go every week for a while, so I guess I'll soon pick up if he's not getting enough milk. Btw, I don't personally think babies get confused between teat and nipple, I think they are cleverer than they'd have us think.

I'll add my name to the list of tearful anxious mums. I've been short tempered too. I've been a right cow to my little boys. And now I'm in knots thinking that they don't love me anymore. Work just phoned me, they want to know if I'm coming back on Friday. Stupid thing is I managed to keep my temper with them (arseholes) yet I lost it with ds2 earlier. All because his shoe fell off in the rain and he got a wet foot. I just want to feel normal again and for my boys to have their old mummy back.

On a more positive note, I can't get over how beautiful my little Liam is. Sometimes when I look at him I just cry because I love him so much. He seems so perfect for me. When he looks at me with his big dark eyes I melt, its like he's really looking into me, wanting me. And I love it when, if he's crying, if he comes to me, he stops crying and is happier. Its like I really matter to him. That for me is the best bit of being a mum.

Anyone had any funny moments yet with their los. Yesterday dh was changing Liam (remember he's got diarrhea) when he started to squirt. His poo went all over dh's arm and hand, and shot well over a meter away in an arc. A contiunuous arc at that too! Ds1 and I were well impressed with his trajectory and aim. Dh wasn't (especially when he wee-ed on him after we'd cleaned up the poo).

Hello to everyone else, especially new faces. Congratulations on the new babies too.

This thread has just made my day. I know it sounds bad, but it is so reassuring to hear that life isn't a bed of roses for everyone and that everyone isn't just sailing through this easily.

Hopey, I really feel for you and it sounds like you have had a really rough time. Keep taking it a day at a time... If it's any consolation I have done quite a lot of crying myself, along with a whole heap of wishing I'd never decided to get pg in the first place. Make sure you do speak to someone.

I had some bad news yesterday, the paeditrician came to see George before we left hospital and has diagnosed him as having 'dislocatable hips', because he was breech his hips sockets have not formed properly and it looks like he will have to have a cast or brace for a few months at least to try to get them to form properly. It might not work. I know that other people get far worse news but I was devastated and now feel really panicky. I will post somewhere else on Mumsnet to see if anyone else has had this problem...

Anyway, George is asleep so am off to have a 'rest'!

Holly. x

Oh Holly, you poor poor thing. I totally know where you are coming from. Obviously I can't relate to the hip thing, but I do have horrible thoughts about how I think I've made a mistake, and the horrible realisation that there is NO going back. But ultimately it is a wonderful thing, these early weeks are, for some of us, just crap crap crap

I really hope that your LO gets all the help he needs with his hip problem, they did check Niamh also, we are waiting for an ultrasound appointment to double check that her hips are ok. If it helps you at all, babies and small children are AMAZINGLY resilient, and will cope brilliantly.

My anxiety symptoms seem to build up mid afternoon, have to admit, I've taken another Diazepam(it's the only thing that works), so bang goes the bf this evening , but I am feeling SO bad with these anxiety symptoms, Niamh, DH, DS1 and DS2 have a very unhappy mum, and surely if taking a tablet helps immensely then that is what I have to do? Even if it means I can't bf.

Hopey, it sounds exactly like the best thing to do.

Hi all, just popping my head round the door to see how you are all getting on... sorry to those who are having a hard time, {{BIG HUGS}} to all those that need it. Hope to see you all here soon

evening all

I think my boobs have doubled in size since yesterday and they are soo painful. I leaked though my top earlier , and when i took pads off, milk went everywhere. I feel like i have had a boob job, why would someone pay to have their boobs this hard??

Holly, my friends dd have the hip thingy, and was in casts, she managed ok, and now wouldnt know anything was wrong. Sending hugs to you.

My Jasmine is feeding loads today, but not for long, just 5-10 mintues at a time but seems to be enough for her, although Im sure it must just rush into her mouth, it comes so quick.

My house is a tip, my phone doesnt stop ringing and sleep would be wonderful, but im still high on my DD

Hope your all ok.
L

HIWBB - so sorry to hear you are still feeling anxious and crappy but please be kind to yourself You are doing absolutely the right thing taking the diazepam if it helps you feel better - a happy mum is the most important thing. Try not to beat yourself up about substituting some BF with FF - it sounds like a really good solution at the mo'. I mixed fed for about five weeks with the DTs as one of them was under 5lb and I just wanted her to put on weight - then I went back to exclusively breast feeding - took around a week to build my supply fully back up to exclusively BF, but if you wanted to later I'm sure you could, but the mixed feeding may work best for you. The only really helpful piece of advice I was given last time when I was a sobbing nervous wreck totally confused by all the conflicting advice was from a lovely midwife who said "Just do whatever YOU need to do to get through it" Hope you find what works best for you.

kinki - sorry to hear your work are being such utter tossers, you were amazing not to tell them where exactly to stuff their job. Don't feel too bad about snapping at your DS, I'm sure they take these things to heart much less than us as the mums - I snapped at one of the girls yesterday and felt like a total b**ch for doing it but a quick cuddle and some fuzzy felt later and she had totally forgotten. Your description of Liam brought tears to my eyes and I know exactly what you mean, its so amazing when they just gaze at you - what can these tiny new people be thinking Also love the projectile arc of diarrhoea - that boy is talented, shame its not a competitive sport!

Holly - so sorry you got the news about little George's hips. A friend's grandaughter has just come out of one of the braces that hold the hips and legs in the correct place, she wore it for about three months i think and her hips are now fine and apparently she coped really well with the cast. Babies really are amazing, but it is hard for us as parents to watch them go through anything bad. Hope you get some news soon.

Was very tearful yesterday as the DTs started nursery and one of them was very frightened. When we picked them up she cried and told me she'd missed me and had been very scared at playschool, so instead of reassuring her I burst into tears like a big girl's blouse until she was patting me and saying "Its alright mummy, you be happy now, I look after you" bless her, but did seem to take her mind off nursery. She did get lots of treats after teatime

Lisa - can sympathise about the boob thing - mine are ginormous and struggling to break free of my nursing bra - think some serious industrial scaffolding is what I need before I fall flat on my face. DH glanced over last night and said "Those are just ridiculous" if it wasn't so painful I would have clubbed him unconscious with one. The fool.

Have a good day ladies - be kind to yourselves and eat chocolate. x

Hello everyone! have very quickly skimmed through posts.

For those feeling teary/ finding it tough going right now - hang on in there. I found the combination of hormones/ nervousness about trying to figure out what Ryan needed/ along with tiredness left me feeling drained, overwhelmed and basically totally shell shocked.

Hormones have settled (had a good cry when i needed to on DH and mum), support structure has been great, books giving all different advice have been put away and making sure I get lots of rest mean that I am feeling heaps better. It feels as though everything has fallen into place - life with Ryan is delightful (still very tiring though) and I am loving being a mum and trying to enjoy these weeks as much as possible. He has already grown so much - weighs 6lbs 10oz already!

Hopey - hugs to you. I hope you feel better soon.

Holly - please dont worry - this can happen with breech babies. I had a paed check Ryan at hospital and they think everything is ok, but I have a hip scan on the 8th Oct where they need to check again. The positive news from what i understand is once it is sorted, there is no long term impact. Hugs to you and bub, hope you are ok.

Hello to everyone else - will start reading this thread instead of antenatal one first so can stay up to date with posts!

Thanks for your wise words Hammer. I spent some time with just ds2 and me today. We spent ages just doing puzzles. Just me and him. You're right, he probably (hopefully) doesn't realise how different I am, but it was nice to do 'normal' stuff with him. We both enjoyed the time together. Hammer, I'm also liking your last words - eat chocolate, I might just do that tonight.

Today's a special day for me. Today is Liam's due date. He's 4 weeks and a day old. Today would also have been my mum and dad's wedding anniversary if she was still alive. I'm missing her a lot. Mixed and wierd emotions for me all day today.

Sorry to hear about George's hips Holly. Has he had an ultrasound scan yet? If not, maybe try pushing for one. It's very useful in diagnosing babys' hips. Hopefully his hips will be fully treatable.

Lisa, I'm with you with the boobs. Mine are fuller, gush out when feeding and leak all the time. I was like that with my other 2, so no great surprise. I went to Tesco when Liam was about 2 wks, and was busy chatting to a friend working on the deli counter, when I got that tingle and that damp feeling. Fortunately I've taken to carrying around a big man-bag for all my bits and ds2&3's changing things. So I was able to clutch that to my chest sparing my blushes a little and flee the shop. Since then it has settled a bit. The only pads that seem to contain my leakages are the J&J ones, but they are so expensive. Oh and hey, you got off lightly with the mws saying about feeding Jasmine every 4 hours, they've been going on at me to not leave it longer than 3 hours with Liam (4 at night). And he was a bit bigger than your dd too! Was Jasmine early, guess she must have been if you were originally on the Oct thread. Good to see you here btw.

Big hello to everyone else. Especially the little heads round the door (Mrs F!), can't wait till you are permanently here.

Hello
Holly hope all goes well re lo hips. I know several people whose lo have needed supports for a few months and all seems well. Alex is booked for a scan as DP had hip problems as a baby but he's never had a problem since.

HIWBB - sorry you're feeling down i agree you need to do what works for you - hope you feel better soon xx

Dal - i remember the hormonal rollercoaster well! Fortunately it seems to have bypassed me this time but i'm still expecting everything to fall apart sometime soon

Here's an update from me (sorry it's a copy from the other thread)

Alex is doing really well - 9 days old and we registered the birth today. He's demand b-feeding every 2 hours day and night for 15mins - it was every 3 hrs last week and i'm hoping it slows off soon as i'm exhausted! He was weighed on day five and was 7lb 13oz so only lost 1 oz! Ds1 was a real guzzler and fed every 1-2 hours for 45 mins so this is easier! But i crave more than 2 hrs sleep in a row! Other than that feel like i've recovered. Tummy has gone down very quickly and blood loss seems to be stopping already and no stiches means down there feels normal! Being discharged from midwife tomorrow!

Hi all, thanks again for messages of support. Having a pretty bad day today. Lovely step-mum went home last night and I miss her really badly. She is such a cheerful person and was very good at distracting me and snapping me out of dark mood. Am feeling flat flat flat, sounds awful, but at the moment I feel scared of Niamh, stupid I know, but it means I'm not enjoying her. She is a good baby I can't get my head round these feelings. I hate feeling like this, am crying whilst writing this. Feel so low. I went through this with DS1 and again with DS2, I guess because there's quite an age gap, I'd forgotten how low I get after having a baby . Sorry for the me me me post.

Kinki - hugs to you. It must be a rollercoaster time for you - just take it easy and look after yourself.

Chatty - you may escape the hormone rollercoaster....each pregnancy is different!

Hello to everyone else. Re. the feeding, Ryan has gone from 3-4 hrs between feeds to 2 hr feeds the other day...i put it down to a growth spurt and it seems to have settled again.

so did anyone watch bringing up baby? very interesting time to be watching it. cannot believe that one of the experts is telling parents no cuddling and let a newborn cry. It would break my heart to do that! and totally ruin this time for me. Oh well, each to their own - obviously works for some.

Hopey - just dropped you a text. Lots of hugs to you. Have you spoken to anyone about how you are feeling? Sometimes giving the fears and thoughts a voice makes them go away - it worked for me.
Text/ post back soon
xx