August/ September 2019 babies #2

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Thread number 2 for our August / September 2019 due date babies.

DS is having a regression on nighttime sleep since moving over to combi - seems to want to wale at 1am whereas before would always go through until 3am...

@happydays00 if a routine is working/ stating to work out for you guys I think that's brilliant. As soon as we've had our 16 week jabs and are through the dreaded sleep regression I keep hearing about, we will be starting a bath, bottle, bed routine.

Hope your evening has been better than this morning x

Thanks for the love everyone. Hopefully she'll be going home today after being assessed by the surgical team. Her fractures have been likened to cracking a rib so nothing super serious. Bit freaky when it's her back tho.

Think I got about three hours broken sleep. Ended up putting Nate in his car seat as he screamed each time I put him in the cot. He also did a projectile poo at 4am so had to strip him off. He never poos in the night!

Love the sound of the Santa ride in the woods to see him. How magical!

@Geegrl19 how scary, sending get well quick vibes. I have a teen too, so also sending you lots of survival vibes for getting through the next few weeks of her feeling crap!

Indie gets up late and naps every within every 2 hour cycle during the day, but generally wants to be on me, and will last 10-20 minutes. The car doesn't send her over, or the pram. Yesterday afternoon, we laid in bed for a cuddle and she had about 2.5 hours 😱 so now I want that every day! I am looking to introduce a routine, and she's 12 weeks on Wednesday, so I think that's the plan this week.

We have the Good Sleeper book that a couple of people recommended on Facebook, and it really helped us- before 8 weeks we were just letting Indie fall asleep as she wanted. But this spoke about sleep cues, and naps helping sleep (as awake=adrenaline produced which can affect nights too), and we saw a vast improvement in happiness when I starting pushing daytime sleep more. I've attached the picture of recommended nap times- we're currently running quite a bit later than this though, 9pm til 10.30 am, with a bottle at about 7 normally

@Geegrl19 sorry to hear about DD! That must have been scary!

So bit confused by Ruth's night time sleep at the moment. She tends to go to sleep for the night between 10 and 12 (when we go to bed) and will have her first stretch of sleep (anything from 3-5 hours usually). She feeds really well after this stretch (bf) but then her sleep stretches get shorter and shorter as morning gets closer and her feeding gets shorter and shorter with each waking to the point where she can be only on for a few mins before falling back asleep. I know the last few are maybe comfort feeds that she uses to get back to sleep but I've tried rocking her etc instead and she protested VERY loudly until she got fed. Any ideas on how to help with this? I don't mind night feeds when she is actually hungry, but night feeds where she is barely feeding are getting frustrating!

Where does she sleep @yevans? Indie does sleep a lot better for the first stretch, and between 1-4 you can guarantee she'll wake up but not for a feed, for a cuddle. After that she's in with me. It's like her sleep is too light after that point and she needs the reassurance of touch.

@KnobJockey she's in a next to me crib and usually goes back down in it after every night feed (usually once she's fallen asleep with the boob in her mouth 🙄) but yes her sleep is definitely lighter than when she's napping with me

That's the type of day we want to have @knobjockey and we pretty much do except the 6.30 an starts are shifted to the 8.30/9am nap time so the whole day is shunted later.
And like I don't want to get up at 06.30 for the day! Lol oh god.

Well it's all gone tits up today 😂 her sleeps been all over the place and she's been very unsettled. Oh well! Try again tomorrow. Ours also starts later @Horehound. @yevans I'm really hoping to start cracking the big cot, in the hope that a dark, quiet bedroom will help, but at the minute she can manage 10-15 minutes at most. I don't know whether to tackle the sleep length/ times first, or the cot. The book suggests getting them used to self settling for naps in the cot first.

So we came home yesterday. Poor dd is in so much pain when she has to get in and out of bed, is awful to watch her struggle as I know if she's showing pain it must really hurt her. Hopefully it will ease each day. Just so thankful it wasnt so much worse. I've had so many phone calls. One even from the CEO of Scouts!

I was so tired yesterday after the worst nights sleep. Ended up putting Nate in his car seat as he just wouldn't settle. Thankfully he was fine being back at home last night so we got a good night.

Oh @Geegrl19 I just can't imagine how hard that is!! You poor things! How absolutely terrifying too to think of the alternative.

Is your DH at home too to help ? Sorry if I've missed that (sleep deprivation etc 😂)

I think we're hitting the 4 month sleep regression hard: DS was doing 7pm to somewhere between 4am and 6am in his cot with a dream feed at 10:30pm but is now waking up anywhere between 1 and 4am and won't settle in his cot again afterwards . Last night both DD and DS alternated their wake ups every 2 hours throughout the night, whyyyyyyyyy?!

Argh DS is a brilliant sleeper however I think I'll be on here any time soon looking for advice too - entering leap 4 today so sleep regression just around the corner. He's already started fighting going to sleep at night a little bit, I just keep popping the dummy back in (and he keeps flicking it right back out again!) and stroking his face and leaving him to it (next to me) but he doesn't cry just chats, grizzles and wafts his arms around looking for me!

@Geegrl19 that must be so hard to see dd in pain. Wishing her a speedy recovery. You'll have to get lots planned together to keep her occupied.

Think we're also running into the sleep regression wall face first. Alice fights sleep hard at the best of times, but at least she'd stay asleep on a night. As long as I didn't put her in her basket before 11pm that is.

Now, she'll wake if I put her down before midnight. And even then she stirs, thrashes, and comes dangerously close to waking. Fortunately shushing and a hand on her chest manages to calm her without waking atm. She's brought back her 0330 feed as well. Luckily she feeds quickly, and my magic boob powers of sending her to sleep still work. But again, putting her back down is risky.

I think nap times are starting to only last one sleep cycle too. Still sometimes upset crying as well.

Trying desperately to remember it's all just a phase. She's not going to sleep on me in the day forever. She'll be able to more consistently fall asleep by herself. She'll be going into her cot within a couple of months. It might be hell for the next few weeks/months, but it all will eventually pass. I hope.

I think we are due for the 4month regression too and thought we started it a few days ago with being extra fussy and only napping for like 2 mins and waking up four or five times in the night. That lasted two nights then he had a night where he only woke once and last night he woke once as well although he did just have his jabs so I don't think I'll know for sure for a few more days yet.
Although not all babies do suffer with it and just wanted to say I read that you don't wait for the regression to end before starting a routine because this is the sleep cycle they will stay with so if you want routine you should really do it now. But...easier said that done!
Arthur woke at 08.30 today and usually he would feed and sleep for a long stint again (we went for main sleep at midnight...) But he was still stuffy so he then woke up and we just took him downstairs ready for the day so hopefully he will be ready to sleep earlier tonight. Hmmm

I must say i would love to just be getting up at 830am!

I leave for school run at 840 having organised five dc

@IVEgotthetinselBITCHES I literally don't know how you do it!! I leave at 8 and have two and that is stressful!

@IVEgotthetinselBITCHES lol usually it's like 10.30/11am
I agree, don't know how you do it. I feel knackered all of the time even getting up late..

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Ruth is 12 weeks tomorrow and has one red cheek and has been super grouchy the past two days. Is it possible she is teething this early??!

We've got a pretty good bedtime routine going. Don't know how I managed to do this, but just seemed to happen. So I bath Nate around 7.30 as he gets super cranky and won't last later. Even if cranky the bath is calming. Then I take him to the bedroom and he has a bottle is expressed milk. I like doing this as then know he has a full belly. He'll settle for sleep around 8.30 and mostly that's it until around 7am Ish. Sometimes earlier and sometimes wakes in the night.

Strange he goes through the sleep cycles at night and not in the day. Daytime is very hit and miss but I know he can only be up for a max two hours before cracking it!

Think of me today as the temperature is going to get to 40 degrees here🔥 too hot to be breastfeeding and having a hot baby sleeping on me. The weather is so unstable in our part of oz though. It'll be 20 degrees cooler tomorrow. Bit like the English weather does but more extreme. So glad I don't live in Adelaide where they have 40 for numerous days, couldn't handle that!

@yevans yes, totally possible to be teething this early. It could just becoming through the jaw so still might not pop through the gym for a few weeks / months! Poor little thing!

@Geegrl19 incredibly jealous of your nights! We fell into a bedtime routine of bath, bottle and bed by 7:30pm but still doing a dream feed at 10:30pm and DS wakes any time then between 3 and 6am for another feed. Not jealous at all of the 40 degree heat though, that's just too hot!

I can't imagine still being in bed at 10:30/11, how amazing! You lucky thing @Horehound

I think we may have cracked night times (fingers crossed). We give the last bottle anywhere between 8.30-9.30 depending on how many hours he goes through the day. He'll be soundo in his cot by 10 latest and has been sleeping through until 6.30/7ish. He'll drain a bottle and then go back to sleep for another two hours.

@Geegrl19 I feel for you in that heat! I'm not a massive summer fan and much prefer cold cosy days.

Uff we are all over the place at the mo. He went to sleep at 11.40 last night then woke 1.40 and 3am for feeds... strange. Just woke again well, he was kicking be and thrashing around so I have him in the laying down bf position and he's dreamfeeding..

How long are your little ones bath times? Arthur's is five mins max..is that normal? I'm also bathing him every second day as I think his skin is getting too dry bathing every day but that kind of ruins a routine.

@Horehound we only bath every second day too. He absolutely loves the bath and would happily kick about for quite some time. He's usually in there maybe 10mins or so just because I worry about the water getting cold

We only bath once or twice a week to be honest, and we do it in the middle of the day as a boredom buster! Asda sell some lavender top to toe wipes that we often use in an evening, they're about 70p for 15 and can be an okay alternative- enough to get rid of the cheesy neck!