August/ September 2019 babies #2

[kyles101]

Thread number 2 for our August / September 2019 due date babies.

DS is having a regression on nighttime sleep since moving over to combi - seems to want to wale at 1am whereas before would always go through until 3am...

Oh and no I looked at eBay and they sell lots of nappies for a few quid so prob not Gona make much doing that unfortunately. I'll try and persevere but I just bloody hate them!

@myspiritan you're not the only one at all! I'm one for bottling up and exploding too. Not that it seems to get me anywhere! Please don't be too hard on yourself.

The regressions really is crap. I'm struggling too. Every night seems to be getting worse and worse.

Part of me wants to try and not give Ellis his dummy when he moans for it at night and see if he'll doze back off after a few minutes. But I also don't want the moaning to go on too long and wake up DP. So at the moment it's every 45 minutes after around 2 am that he's waking me.

I'm thinking I may have to move his cot back into his room (currently in ours next to me) and camp out in there til 6 months and try and get some sort of routine/ self settling going?

@Myspiritan you're definitley not alone. The regression has hit me so hard! And to top it off the past couple of nights he's refused to go to sleep until half 9/10. He just grins at me like a Cheshire Cat 🤦🏼‍♀️ but then eventually gets over tired and screams the place down!

@Horehound have a look on Facebook, The Nappy Lady buying and selling group. The elementals seem to go for 12-15 or so.
But you might get on with them better once you are one a bigger size setting?

So sorry that so many of you are struggling at night. I absolutely hated hearing this first time round (and I don't want to be THAT person) but it really is all a phase. This is not forever. What you are experiencing now won't last forever and any routines/crutches/tricks you find now don't have to be forever if you don't want them to be. All we can do is bumble on through and find ways to survive. It is bloody hard and everyone is amazing.

Oh, and I am generally calm but last week I screamed at my husband because he asked me if the baby needed a jacket on. Every now and again I hit my limit of being the person who has to think about everything, remember everything and make every single decision. Then I explode.

@stroan I do exactly the same with my DH and what you said there about being the person that has to remember everything and make every decision is spot on!!!

@Myspiritan you are not alone at all. DS is 5 months now and we are coming out the other side of the 4 month hell. It definitely wasn't that bad with my DD but this time, like you, it nearly broke me. Can you try a bottle when your LO is a little more calm in the day time? Rather than for the dream feed? Other than that, DS was waking every 45 - 60 minutes from about 3am onwards and I just bought him into bed with me so I could shush/pat him/re insert dummy without fully waking. As others have said, this will pass - just try and take every day/hour as it comes

Well, yesterday was 16 week jabs, and last night DC3 slept through from midnight to 9:30am! Fortunately DP works from home, so we didn't need to get her up for the school run. I'm hoping for a good nap this morning and actually get some stuff done, but yes, This too shall pass...
What Stroan said re crutches and workarounds passing too!
I'm braced for the 4 month sleep regression to hit any time soon...

Dusty, jabs here also but DD was running a temp with hers. Not a bad night for sleep, but she was in with me so I could keep an eye on her temp, and needed lots of cuddling to sleep. The night before was a shower of shit sleep wise! Generally, sleep is going well enough here, and I think once leap 4 is out of the way we'll be right. But we are putting quite a bit of effort in for naps in her own cot, trying to lengthen them, self settling etc- it's all luck as to whether they go with it or not though!

Does anyone else feel like their life just revolves in 2 hour cycles? If I don't actively try to get DD to sleep longer, she only has a 15 -25 minute catnap. She's still feeding every 2 hours during the day, so it just feels like a constant cycle where you get no chance to do anything! If we try hard, and put her down at the right point when the stars are aligning she will have a 2-3 hour nap, but knowing what the magic formula is the key!

I’m so glad it’s not just me! I will have to work harder on the ‘it will pass’ mantra as I know from experience that it’s true it’s just hard to remember when you’re in the thick of it. Sorry others are struggling too and so glad that you’re getting some let up now @happydays00, we hit 5 months at the end of next week so maybe there’s light at the end of the tunnel! I know exactly what you mean @KnobJockey it’s like a whirling carousel that won’t stop!! @DustyDoorframes you never know you might sneak past the 4 month regression unscathed! Fingers crossed!

That's what's worrying me, the methods to get sleep now that I don't necessarily want to continue long terms. I know he will sleep better if he comes into bed with me when he wakes around 2/3 am ( we did this when he went through a stage of waking hourly at around 8 weeks). I'm just worried that if I start this again, he's going to get so used to it and it'll be difficult to change later on when I'm back at work and ideally need him back in his cot :( I just don't know what to do for the best

@db92 in my (limited) experience, I've never found anything that can't be fixed later. We had some pretty bad sleep habits with DD but she was happily self settling in a cot by 9 months with minimum effort.

We could probably be in a better routine but I don't have the energy or mental capacity to even think about what that should be. One day!

I agree with @Stroan @db92 I think we went through everything with my dd1 but she’s been a pretty solid sleeper since about 9 months too! It only ever seems to take 2 or 3 days to break a habit!

As ever, what stroan said! Do what gets you through. Being more stressed now isn't going to help you get into a less stressed future...

After doing lots of reading I think it's physiological and just down to the individual baby and when they're ready to sleep on their own and self settle. If Nate hasn't made the connection that his bed equals nap time which makes him feel better ,then I don't think any amout of patting/shushing etc will fix this and I have to wait for him to do it in his own time. I don't like the thought of just letting him cry as they look so pitiful and stressed.

Last night was a 💩 show though. we made it through the 4 month regression but he is now rolling from back to front. He hasn't figured out how to get back though and just kept doing this and crying until 4am 😣. He was exhausted in the end and crashed out on his belly. I'm guessing this is ok as he now rolls on his own, or is it only ok if they can roll both ways does anyone know ??

gee we are at same stage, can roll back to front but only very occasionally make it back (and i think this may be accidental!) Last three nights he has ended up on his front. I have left him to it but have an angel care movement monitor which gives me peace of mind

@Geegrl19 Arthur only rolls back to tummy and can't turn over again and I just let him sleep on his tummy. He fusses if he wants back although it's very annoying when I turn him back and he immediately flips to his tummy again

90sbitch yes, got the angel care too. They're great for peace of mind aren't they. I was still paranoid though!

Had him on his belly lots today hoping he'll figure out what to do, but no 🙈

@Horehound Nate was flipping straight back to his belly as soon as I turned him. Like, no, stop!! I'm dreading bedtime tonight. He does only seem to turn left ways though so might jam that side against the end of the cot 🤣

Yep that's what Arthur does @Geegrl19 which is why I now wait until he is a dead weight in my arms before I out him down. He's fine in the night..he feeds then sleeps on his side.

Catherine has never really mastered self settling, yet today she fell asleep
on the playmat 🙈

Oooh @Littlehouseinthebigcity love a playmate snooze. I'm jealous 😊

I don't like the thought of letting him cry either and just won't do it. My idea of him being able to settle himself would simply be stirring but getting back to sleep on his own without me waking multiple times to put his dummy back in his mouth. Hopefully we'll be through this leap soon and we can have a good few weeks sleep before the next one comes around!

Finally managed to go full time cloth with our first night nappy last night- we have been daytime since 7 days old but because Felicity was so tiny the night nappies weren’t a good enough fit. Took the plunge last night and no leaks after 11hrs especially good as she did a huge poo on waking and is feeding 3-4 times at night due to regression.

My recommendations from The Nappy Lady have been spot on!

Sounds good @megan2018 a true test is a morning poo in the already full nappy!

Anyone know any (disposible) nappies with an elasticated bit at the back? Back in the day Huggies made some which were great. Getting fed up of poo all the way up babies back!