August/ September 2019 babies #2

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Thread number 2 for our August / September 2019 due date babies.

DS is having a regression on nighttime sleep since moving over to combi - seems to want to wale at 1am whereas before would always go through until 3am...

That is very impressive of Arthur. Wish Alice was closer in either direction.

DH and I are also tummy sleepers.

BabyDECAF currently only rolls from back to front horehound!

DS is a complete lazy bum and has no inclination to roll whatsoever 🤷‍♀️ he did do tummy to back a few weeks ago fairly consistently but has evidently forgotten how to. Today he is fascinated by his hands, he keeps sticking one up in the air just to gaze at.

No interest here either! Did front to back 4 times one night, nothing since.

No sign of rolling here! In either direction 😂 Where are other people at with leaving the babies? We have a wedding at the end of March in Northern Ireland and had originally thought a child free weekend might be nice, but now it's getting closer I'm thinking how much she'll still be feeding and how much I don't want to be away from her for a whole weekend! DD1 will still be going to her grandparents (and will have far more fun than if she came to the wedding) but I don't think I can leave baby!!

I do find it strange how they do something then have no interest again. DS stopped reaching for things for a good couple of weeks once he had mastered it. He grabs everything now though, and sticks whatever it is straight in his mouth.

Noticed something new tonight, I have strapped one of his wrist rattles around the bar above his bouncer so it's too high to reach but he always loved looking at it. Tonight he spent a good 5 minutes reaching and stretching and really concentrating on trying to get it, before getting frustrated and crying because he couldn't.

@Littlehouseinthebigcity my big brother wants me to go away with him and his girls in April for a night. When we spoke about it last year I thought I would be ready but I don't actually think I will be so have now declined. We've had one night out so far and another coming up, but I don't think I could do an overnight yet... but he's my precious first born so maybe I'd feel differently if I had two? Are the grandparents very involved in her care now? My mum sees ds all the time so again, I'd be more comfortable than if I was to leave him with MIL...

We left DS for one night just before Christmas. He slept through perfectly at my parents, chatting away with my dad. I on the other hand didn't sleep a wink because I missed him so much. We were in the car on the way to get him by 7am.

Most we've done since then is a few hours in the evening to go for dinner once

I wouldn't leave Arthur for a night because I just think he's too little right now. Also since he doesn't take a bottle it's too hard! Maybe if I just left him and he had no option he'd take it.

The only person I'd be happy leaving him with is my mum though but the thought of a while night makes me sad!

I don't think I'm ready to inflict Alice on leave Alice with other people yet. Her daytime sleep is tough to deal with as it is.

I think she'd tolerate a bottle if she had to, so there is scope for the future. But not any time soon.

@Littlehouseinthebigcity
We are EBF and not expressing so won’t be able to leave her overnight until that stops, hopefully going to BF past 12 months so be ages yet. But also wouldn’t have anyone I’d want to leave her with (emergencies aside).

I could imagine leaving her at 3 or 4, but not as a baby. But that is probably a reflection of our lack of suitable carers and the fact we rarely go anywhere as we are unsociable buggers.
I’d happily leave her with DH though once weaned.

I'm hopeless at leaving babies with anyone! DP and I haven't both been out together in the evening since DC2 was born (3.5 years ago...), and never overnight at all (DC1 is nearly 7). No weekends away for us for a while, I'd guess.

(Incidentally @Megan2018 , you don't need to wean for good to be away for a few nights, once you are into feeding a toddler (if that's what suits you!). I've had work trips leaving DP with the kids for a night or three from about 18 months with my elder two, and fed to 30+ months. But I'm like you in that we don't really have anyone to leave them with, now there's a crowd. And too soppy anyhow)

We are EBF too so if we were to leave her I'd have to be expressing and getting her used to a bottle, then pumping the whole time we were away, think it's probably more hassle than it's worth!! And emotionally I don't think I could be away from her for that long - it's different with DD1 cos she knows my parents so well (they see both girls every week) and they can explain to her, whereas Dd2 is too little to understand and I wouldn't want her to feel abandoned!

I'll be the odd one out here and say I'd quite happily leave Indie to go for a night away 😂 however she has taken to kicking off if I try to leave her with her dad while I pop to the supermarket, so prob won't be for a while yet unfortunately.

I'm with @KnobJockey and would happily have a night away and 12 hours of glorious, uninterrupted sleep. Sure, I'd be glad to see them both the next day but I definitely wouldn't mind the night. My mum sees DS all the time but never keen to have them until they're sleeping through (can't imagine why 😂). For DD that was 6 months, DS I'm estimating oh, another 6-10 years 😂😂

Catching up!

DS can still only roll front to back and really isn't motivated to do so very often! He is just far too chilled out - as long as he can see you and preferably touch you, he is happy. No interest in reaching for toys etc if he has the chance of a cuddle instead. So different to DD who was (and still is!) always trying to do something.

He has a dummy, but isn't an addict so we might try to wean him off it. DD slept well unless she lost her dummy and I spent far too many nights hunting for dummies in the dark. Not keen to repeat that! He doesn't have it at night really, maybe for 30 seconds until he drops off. It's handy in the car though.

I left DD once before having DS and that was for a funeral so can't see me leaving both of them anytime soon. Partly circumstamces, no local family etc. And partly that I get really sad if I'm not with them. Is that tragic? I can definitely see the benefits (all the sleep, nice food eaten with both hands, unencroached personal space!) but I'm not quite there yet.

Anyway, DS is EBF and didn't take a bottle last time we tried so it's probably not even an option.

Last set of immunisations today plus a change in reflux medicine is really kicking his bum. Poor baby, we're having some rough evenings. I feel so grateful that this is hopefully temporary but even my boobs don't console him and I have no baby settling skills beyond the boobs.

No chance of leaving Nate either as nobody other than us even that familiar with him so wouldn't be fair on him. Think I'd just stress too! What is this eating with two hands business?!

Hope your little one has settled a bit for you this evening @Stroan. Is hard when the usual go tos don't work.

Oh sorry you're having a hard time @Stroan hopefully it passed soon.

I'm Gona start trying a routine but I know it will be hard to stick to. We have friends coming to stay this weekend and next and then we are away for a weekend break the week after so who knows if it will work.
What I am getting annoyed at is Arthur falling asleep on me and then if I try to put him in his cot he wakes immediately and cries. It's soo frustrating because he seems really asleep on me.
I've tried hot water bottles etc. Doesn't make a difference and also sometimes I don't know he will fall asleep so how can I have a bottle ready?

He slept for a weirdly long time this afternoon like 12 to 2.30pm and then around 5 he fell asleep on my boob, tried putting him in cot and got the tears. Then neighbour cake to door so that was him fully awake.
So now I'm trying the routine of feed, bath, book and sleep thinking he's gonna be so tired..bit no. He's fighting it.

And then husband comes home and I try to explain what I'm doing and so he's being really helpful by basically playing with him just quietly

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Hi everyone! Wow so much to catch up on, can’t believe we’ve got our first BFP already, congratulations @Dipsy77!

The 4 month sleep regression is literally killing me. I’ve become a withered shell of my former self and literally EVERYTHING my DP does is driving me insane even though he’s the most helpful caring person in the world. My EBF DD is getting more and more fraught with her feeds in the day, pulling off, screaming, getting annoyed. Then she’s waking hourly at night. I feel like I’m sucked dry yet she seems starving. I’ve no idea what’s going on and I’ve lost the plot today and am now officially struggling. I don’t remember anything with my DD1 this bad but I have forgotten a lot. I tried to get my DP to give her a bottle as a dream feed but she wouldn’t take it so I’ve given up hope of switching out feeds to get more sleep... completely at a loss and very very tearful! Sorry to come on to moan having not been on in ages, I just desperately needed to vent!

Hey @Myspiritan. Hang on in there. You have my sympathies. This is what the thread is for. All I can say is the advice I keep being given. It is a phase. It will pass.

DP/Hs are so clueless. Trying to get a baby to sleep and they're distracting/entertaining them... Just waiting for mine to gently 'suggest' the idea that I sleep downstairs with Alice since she's disturbing our sleep so badly. 5-6 wake ups per night now. And she's congested with a cold to boot now.

I firmly believe that the only reason the human race has continued is because the sleep deprivation means we can't retain the memories of these times. Otherwise nobody would ever want to do this more than once.

Wow that sounds really tough @Myspiritan Im sorry I don't have advice because I'm only doing this for the first time and were not as bad with the regression as you seem to be but I'm sure you are doing a fantastic job and just hang in there. It's so hard to know how to help when the things we are used to trying don't work. And just as we think we know what we are doing they change again! It's all a big learning curve isn't it? for you!

I absolutely hate the bumgenious elementals. They have too much fabric and so when it's all done up it seems really quite hard almost. And the fastenings never seem to be right for him. I actually hate using them now leave them until I absolutely must use them. What a waste of money.

Thanks guys! I think I just need to find a way to get through it in tact, DP is on nights the next few nights so I have a feeling she’ll just end up in my bed! I properly exploded earlier like bigger than my toddlers tantrum exploded and I just feel so awful about myself when that happens, although it doesn’t happen often I hate that I’m the kind of person who can scream and shout and I assume no one else is like that and then just feel awful (I’m quite a quiet calm person irl) what do you guys do to help when things feel desperate?

That’s annoying re the nappies @Horehound. Could you eBay them and get some others that you like better?

Also yes! @Dyra it’s amazing the human race has continued!

Sometimes I just say to my husband I need more support at these times. He's usually pretty good. And i think I just loan on here to be honest!