Dec 06 - a new one for Indith and her rubbish dial up!

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New thread for our incessant chatter!

Argh!

Ds went to bed about half an hour early because he was shattered (had to wake him from his nap to feed him his dinner) but wouldn't settle (can't remember the last time he wouldn't settle, normally he is shoved in his cot and I don't hear a peep). Went to get him, he cheered up and romped around on the floor for a while. just put him back in his cot and he is complaining bitterly.

Grrrr

Dp has gone out to forage for ice cream. Ds had better settle soon!

I hate his latest cry. Sounds like he has a permanent sore throat!

FGS - I saw the thread last night about you dds birth. It sounded so very hard to deal with, I can see why it's taken such a long time to feel you can deal with it.
{hugs for you}

FGS, I'm so sorry that you are still haunted by this but I so understand. I may have told you this already but I went through CBT after ds1 as well as two studies on birth trauma. Did lots and lots of writing, talking and posting about it which helped considerably as did having a non-traumatic birth with ds2. In the end, I think it can be worked out so that you can live with it, but I guess it really varies as to what works for which person and how long that may take.

We are leaving for vacation tomorrow and I'm still not finished packing. Hopefully will have internet but I don't know for sure. So I may have lots to catch up on around Halloween!

FGS, I think the trauma of not knowing whether to grieve or rejoice for an hour is huge just on its own - and in the context of the rest, even harder to get over. The closest I can get to relating is the moment I walked into the ward, saw six doctors around dd's bed (she was just 4 weeks old) and asked whether I should be scared, to get no answer other than she was going on to cpap and into HDU. I can get back in touch with those feelings in a heartbeat - its a 'frozen in time' moment. I imagine that hour must be the same for you, and I feel so sad and angry for you that no one came straight away to reassure you: that in itself is really shocking.

Anyway...I've done loads of talking about my particular trauma re dd2, here and with close friend, with dh, and with a therapist, several times: it all helps, and I'm sure I'll be doing more of it as and when needed! Do talk about it whenever it comes up...actually, you already have, good for you

Now me, today, I'm unbelievably thrilled to say that dd2 - now merely slightly snotty and coughy - is sleeping through more often than not. Last night she coughed and threw up her entire supper, so of course she woke for a much needed feed - but I now expect her to sleep through

I thought the day would never come...

Jabber, have a great holiday!

ps yes to baked beans. She loves them, and tbh doesn't get that many into herself for me to worry about salt/sugar content (also don't give them very often). I let her have peas tonight - those and BB are brilliant for keeping her busy at table while the rest of us finish our meal

ds ate breakfast today! Ds never eats breakfast! Appetite gone up again though he is now seriously mush happy and anti finger food. Contrary sausage.

CC is getting there. He still seems to wake around midnight but is now only taking 5 or 10 mins to go back to sleep and then wakes for a feed at 5.30. After that he goes back to sleep until after 8 left to his own devices. Fab at the weekend but not so good when i have to be out of the house at 8.15 and I get up at 6.30 so only get to go back to bed for an hour! Ah well tis better than feeding 4 times a night anyway. Have taken to bringing his breakfast to creche and just getting him up in time to change him and stick him in his cot.

Naps are a bit funny since starting creche though but to be expected I suppose.

Crawling is getting good though! Watch out world here comes ds!

Thanks for taking time to talk to me everyone

well. both of my DDs have just gone to bed . Unheard of. Normally they get to bed about 7.45. DD1 even asked for a catlick rather than a bath as she was so tired.

Please tell me I'm not going to pay for this tomorrow and have them up at 4am

Another one crawling: our LOs are going to take over the world, you mark my words

Mine went to bed early too, FGS...both starting another cold Me, too. Cold, that is, not early night.

I jinxed myself with that post yesterday: dd2 woke up FOUR times in the night - drooling and grumpy, think it was the sore throat start to this week's cold [

Is it me or are most of the los having weird sleeping patterns?
Dd3 is just not wanting to nap at the moment. She is as grumpy as heck - and i'm pretty sure she isn't teething as 5 teeth are through now (she didn't have any at all a month and a half ago )!

I think our early routines were pretty much scuppered by the DIY demon next door - but he'll be going away for a few months soon, and his lodger is a lovely quiet bloke We are thinking about celebrating somehow...large glass of Bacardi and Orange anyone?

I'm trying so hard to get the DDs into reasonable sleeping patterns. I will have to start travelling again when I go back to work, and although I want to put off overnights for as long as possible, the time is rapidly approaching when I'll have to leave the DDs with DH for the night. I don't know how DD2 will settle back without a feed - any ideas?

DD2 still isn't crawling! Mind you, I'm not at all jealous of all of you with crawling babies DD2 gets around, but not all that quickly

Mine's a large white wine, Godzilla!

BP - dd2 is not crawling either. She just rolls everywhere or cries with frustration.

Am I the only one who has a child who refuses to go to sleep before 10.30? The hours between 8-10.30 are full of tears and tantrums. dd1 is a good at going to bed but this has not rubbed off on her younger sister.

Tried bath routine, she is b/f in the evening, it's very quiet and the lights are dim as well. I'm at a loss as to what to do for the best.

My DD seems unable to go past about 7.30pm which was a shock as DD1 used to go to bed at 9pm at this age.

They woke up at 6.15 and 6.45 so not too bad considering their early nights.

At the moment DD2 tends to have a nap in the morning about 2.5 hours after she woke up and then another at about 1.30ish.

FGS, I think you have carbon copies of my dds

Or almost.

Eli - how old is your DD1 ?

Hola all! Long time no see Well everything here in sunny Spain is ticking over.

Ds is starting to walk and I can't get food into him quick enough. He has 8 teeth and is constantly teething, he's already starting to bite dd. He's about 13.5 kgs and as bald as a coot. His sleep is all over the place and he wakes at least once in the night, usually more. He's always starving!

I'm glad that the summer is nearly over as it has been so debilitating. Have had to turn routine on its head as it has just been too hot to do anything in the day, so we all became night owls for a couple of months.

Am getting mild broody pangs but know I don't want any more children, me and pregnancy just don't mix, although I love and miss being pregnant if that makes sense. Anyway I'm waffling, hope all is well, am going to try and read this mammoth thread!

Hey there Lucy!

Spain does kinda force you to be nocturnal doesn't it! I've been heaering lots and lots about Spain recently Bloody year abroad returners are so earnest it is untrue. The keep wibbling on and on about how wonderful Spain is and how in Galicia/Pais Basco/Catalunya they speak gallego/euskadi/catalan and how they consider themselves that before Spanish etc etc as though it were a distant land and they were the first European to set foot there and have done all these amazing studies. WE KNOW!!!!!!!!!! WE HAVE ALL BEEN TO SPAIN TOO AND ARE QUITE WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THEY SPEAK CATALAN IN BARCELONA YOU MORONS YOU ARE NOTHING SPECIAL YOU JUMPED UP PRETENTIOUS TWAT!!!!!!!!

Thankfully the Russian lot are good fun. We have all been to Russia. We know that nothing works in Russia and we accept and love the stupid country.

Margo I have a friend with an eleven and a bit month old who has been struggling to bring her bedtime forwards from midnight. She is currently at about 9.30/10 I think and aiming for 8. She has ended up doing CC to help her to self settle.

BP if ds wakes before 5 I send dp in. Ds is getting used to it! He even got put to bed by dp the other day. I fed him before his bath and then went out. Dp says he screamed for about 10 mins but they had a story and he went to sleep ok. Not sure how ds would be if faced with a beaker of milk though!

Right, i came on here while ds was screaming in his cot but the tired sausage has given up and gone ot sleep so I had better do my Spanish homework. MNing I can do while he romps around the floor, work I can't!

Hey there Lucy!

Spain does kinda force you to be nocturnal doesn't it! I've been heaering lots and lots about Spain recently Bloody year abroad returners are so earnest it is untrue. The keep wibbling on and on about how wonderful Spain is and how in Galicia/Pais Basco/Catalunya they speak gallego/euskadi/catalan and how they consider themselves that before Spanish etc etc as though it were a distant land and they were the first European to set foot there and have done all these amazing studies. WE KNOW!!!!!!!!!! WE HAVE ALL BEEN TO SPAIN TOO AND ARE QUITE WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THEY SPEAK CATALAN IN BARCELONA YOU MORONS YOU ARE NOTHING SPECIAL YOU JUMPED UP PRETENTIOUS TWAT!!!!!!!!

Thankfully the Russian lot are good fun. We have all been to Russia. We know that nothing works in Russia and we accept and love the stupid country.

Margo I have a friend with an eleven and a bit month old who has been struggling to bring her bedtime forwards from midnight. She is currently at about 9.30/10 I think and aiming for 8. She has ended up doing CC to help her to self settle.

BP if ds wakes before 5 I send dp in. Ds is getting used to it! He even got put to bed by dp the other day. I fed him before his bath and then went out. Dp says he screamed for about 10 mins but they had a story and he went to sleep ok. Not sure how ds would be if faced with a beaker of milk though!

Right, i came on here while ds was screaming in his cot but the tired sausage has given up and gone ot sleep so I had better do my Spanish homework. MNing I can do while he romps around the floor, work I can't!

half an hour later, the overtired sausage is at my feet eating moon biscuit and pear

The resultant expression on a small child's face when they put and entire half moon biscuit in their mouth and then shove a spoonfull of pear in is mildly amusing.

Indith

Well it is! The resultant mushy slobber is to die for. Looks great spread over jeans.

he is doing the whole clingy, won't sleep cuddle me mummy thing.

FGS - your lo's daytime naps sound normal compared to mine . Dd3 is in bed by 7pm without fail as she is so overtired by then it's ridiculous. She has a 5oz milk at 11pm when she comes back downstairs to sleep in her cot cos we've still not got a bigger house , which settles her until 6.30ish, when she'll lay and coo quietly to herself for an hour before breakfast (not hungry if i get her up before then!). She gets tired by about 9.30-10 when she'll go in her cot (upstairs) for about an hour, and then again for another nap by 1.30 IF she's at home, which we usually aren't. She REFUSES to sleep in the buggy recently and has impossibly whingey afternoons up until 4pm when she might decide to nap again! Aaaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh!

Helloooo Lucy! Eight teeth, wow. I'm glad for you its cooler now, but wish it was warmer here (heating broke down today, seems to do that every year - last year included, day before dd was born). I do know what you mean about loving being pregnant but not getting on with it, oh yes...mind you, if I were five years younger, I'd probably be mad enough to do it again anyway...

FGS, dd1 will be 4 just before Xmas. Yours?

Lol. I hated being pregnant. Felt better the day after I'd had DD2 than I had in the whole 9 months previously.

Eli - DD1 is 4 in March so not much in it. This is a lovely age isnt it!

Erm, I really must get on here more regularly, I can't catch up.

Hello Lucy, wow hot weather sounds like a completely different ball game - might have been like that for me I guess if I'd had my kids in Australia. I cope much better with the cold, I guess babies do too!

I am to-ing and fro-ing on the whole more kids issue. Tied up so much with the giving up work or not issue, which has kept me awake for several nights. DS2 has had fever for 2 days, so I took yesterday off work. Even with him ill, I had a better time than being stressed out and running around at work trying to do 50 things in an hour. DS1 happy cos he didn't go to nursery until 11am! But money & career raise their ugly heads and then I'm stuck again. I know if I have 3, that's it, no more work, even dp says that! Anyone else struggling with this?