June '07 - This season we will mostly be wearing Eau de Baby Sick

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CHICKS!!! Over here!

Yeh - I know when I've tried to wake him to feed him - he takes ages to feed and keeps falling asleep, but when I leave him and try to go to bed myself I just lay in bed with one eye open waiting to be woken up
Oh I don't know

DKMA go to bed with him and read a book until he wakes up. That's what I do. Then at least you are resting and relaxing even if you aren't sleeping and you know when he wakes he is going to have a proper feed and you will get a good few hours sleep.

Hi Holly

I know what you mean about wasting your spare time with sleep! It is nice to be awake and catching up with things when lo is asleep isn't it?

Had my little fella weighed today and he is 11lbs 9oz (and 5 weeks old) - I think he's a little on the chunky size!!

Fucking hell, he's waking up again! I've got no milk left, my boobs are completely empty...please go back to sleep!

wow dkma....that's a good weight. DD was 9lb 6ozs at six weeks. I've not had her weighed since then, but she's getting bigger and fatter as I couldn't fasten the side buttons on her newborn dungarees today.

He's been wearing his 3-6 month Next outfits
Holly - could you try a bit of water again?
I gave Ed 3oz of water this morning - how much can you give in one day?

William is just in 0-3 months. The trousers keep falling down though, he is well skinny! Such a difference from Alice, she was always a chunky little monkey!

He had 3 oz of water before he went to sleep! He is still stirring and moaning...I'm beginning to dread him waking up!

AAAARRRRGGGHH!!! He's awake! See you in about a week when he finally stops feeding! xxx

Awe poor Holly!
I'm going to chance going to bed!

LOL DKMA...and Next are a bit big on the sizing I think!

DS was a chunky monkey as well. He got a wee Next shirt/tank top combo for his first Christmas size 6-9mo. He was seven months at the time, and I couldn't get the cuff buttons done up!

Do flying ants bite? Something has taken a chunk out of my foot and its really sore and itchy. I'm still finding them in the house. They must be coming in the windows now, or else we have more gaps in walls/floors.

Gosh, I didn't realise the time.....I'm off too!

Goodnight all.

Daisy, have you worked out what is the problem with DD's feeding yet? Be interested to know. I worry that she is struggling to get milk out of the left boob so feeds less from it, but the less she feeds the less it will produce. Thanks for the email BTW, have replied!

There's always something isn't there? Just when you think you have this feeding lark down, something else comes along! And I know it's not just bfing, but babies in general. You think you know them, you think they have a pattern then they throw a spanner in the works!

DD fed at 8 and is still asleep. DH is doing a night feed. I can either wake her to feed her, then go straight to bed and hopefully won't have to get up till about 7, or leave her, go to bed (am knackered), she'll wake in a couple of hours when DH can feed her but then will be awake again at 4ish for me to feed

Just saw the weight chats...my HV weighed him when she was here yesterday, 12lbs at 7 weeks
Fat little bastard. Takes after his mum.

Can anyone help?
I have switched from SMA to C&G comfort (as advised by HV) but he is still screaming blue murder during feeds.
Will probably post a separate thread on it later but just wondering if anyone here has any ideas?

Oh blimey TA - you and DS are not having a good time of it at the moment. I have no advice but {{{{hugs}}}} - what advice did the HV give yesterday? Do you need to sit him up more while you're feeding him to prevent the reflux?

As you say, perhaps a thread on the feeding board may bring some good advice....hope it gets better...

TA when the hospital thought my DD had reflux they prescribed infant gaviscon. Do you have some of that? No advice otherwise, just thinking of you. At least he is putting on weight! DD is only 9lbs at 6 weeks! I wish I could say she is small like her mum but it's not true (short maybe!) though I was a small baby and had growth checks when I was a child - then I hit puberty and it pretty much went down hill from there

I used to feed upright etc when he was windy/colicy, but that has now passed and we are onto shreiking, back arching, screaming feeds now. Just hanging on to him at all is a bonus, different feeding positions is a mere dream!

He is clearly in pain...really weird. On the comfort milk he is MUCH more settled between feeds and we have had no projectile vomits since changing but the actual act of feeding is worse than ever. I am exhausted from just holding onto him while he launches himself across the room whilst creaming blue murder. Just getting a couple of ounces into him is a trauma.
My HV is lovely and very helpful but I am going to see the GP today. ENough is enough.

If, however, they tell me that he is thriving weight wise and not to worry, I will punch them. Yes he is gaining weight but only because I sit there for hours easing bottles gently into his mouth at the same time as shhing, rocking, soothing, and he might be thriving but I am at the end of my farkin tether

Good plan TA - follow your instincts and insist they sort this out.

Some areas have feeding counsellors for FF mums as well as BF mums....may be worth asking about?

I have to say you must have the patience of a saint - I get fustrated when DD spits and pisses me about so cannot begin to think how I would cope with what you are going through.

Last night DD was very hot, so I didn't cuddle her to feed her as I usually would, I laid her fairly upright on a pillow and fed her like that. I found that quite good as for once, I had a spare hand free.

Hope the GP is sympathetic - let us know how you get on.

Aw TA , I wish I had something to add other than sending some virtual hugs to you. I know its difficult, but keep focussed on the fact that this too will pass. I don't have any experience of reflux, how long it will last etc, but I'm sure someone will be along with advice if you post a thread on the feeding topic. Good luck at the doctors, make sure you get over how bad it actually is.

Can you get out on your own for a bit for a walk or swim or even a coffee and some retail therapy?

Be kind to yourself and keep telling yourself that you are doing a fab job in spite of the reflux

ok GP booked for 10.30!

1 handed typing

Daisy would LOVE to get out but I live miles from anyone v lonely here, just a dog with a rash and screamy hungry baby that won't eat

I've stumbled across this thread by accident and not had chance to read all but TA - your LO might have a dairy intolerance.

I have just had this diagnosed with my DS2, he was utterly horrendous, screamed all the time, wouldn't be put down. At 9 weeks they said reflux but the medicine made no difference. Couple of peopel suggested it could be a dairy intolerance (not the same as a dairy allergy or a lactose intolerance confusingly) and once I cut it out of my diet (I was BF) he was literally like a changed baby. He's now on special formula called Pepti. I would never really have belived it but honestly it was amazing. From newborn until 5 months he screamde pretty much all day every day, now he is a really happy little boy.

This thread will show you how utterly desperate I was and my update post explains what happened.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=8&threadid=297027#5959571
An update - for all those lovely people who offered support, advice, etc

"Turns out that the poor titcher has a cows milk intolerance and as within 10 days of me cutting out dairy and him having his daily bottle of prescribed formula rather than 'normal' it was literally as though someone had switched babies and delivered a brand new, happy, giggly baby. So thank you (and take a bow) can'tslimwon'tslim, zzmum and U(you know who you are) - you were right.

I never would have believed it but by 5 months when things were no better I tried it as a last desperate attempt at finding a solution to the screaming and it bloody worked! (I did try it at 9 weeks but gave up after 8 days as I didn't think it was working). Anyway, went to paeditrician today - lovely lady who said, yes it is definitely that, no dairy until he's one and apparently it's really commong. I said "well I wish health visitors and GPs were more aware of it!".

holly's near you isn't she? can you do a mini meet-up with her? And I know they're not for everyone, but a new mum group might help. I went to one when DS was small and am still in touch with a few of the women.

It's great talking to everyone on here but you feel so helpless when there is all that distance involved. When my RL friends are struggling, I pop round for a coffee and chat and try to take some pressure off. Virtual coffee doesn't quite hit the spot though

Also TA my DS2 was thriving weight wise but that didn't mean he wasn't miserable. Go to see GP and ask to be referred to a paed.

TA - I think your a bit far away for me to meet up with you, but next time you're at your mum's we should meet up in Bluewater for some SHOPPING and coffee!

Let us know how GP goes - thinking of you x

wow katierocket, I have just had a quick read of your thread. I'm glad you've got things sorted now, and can't believe you've managed to stay sane through all of this.