The May 2007 Postnatal dilemma- 40 winks or 40 situps

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thanks to soh/gw for the title

Sounds like you are being very reasonable and handling it very well lilaura.

I just remembered I 4got to tell you all that I got engaged last week . DP got down on one knee (with ring which he has had for 2 weeks) in front of DC while in Blackpool on hols. Not in public thank god or I would have died. Ring really lovely but in for resizing at mo. Will get it back on Saturday.

SKY - you forgot to tell us something important like that, many congratulations

congratulations SKY, and thanks im trying my hardest not to fall apart at the seams but im staying strong

Tam, J does as TYG says, he can go for about 1.5 to 2 hours between sleeps and he starts to get a bit restless, so I often put him down at about 1.5 hours after he has woken up before getting restless and he goes happily back off to sleep, without a peep. Sometimes he will then sleep for 2 hours, sometimes half an hour. Sadly it only seems to work when he is in his bed, so if we are out in the buggy he often yells his head off I agree that the CC is not for everyone.

He slept from 7 last night to 6, went back down and is still asleep now - yippee! Sadly though I think it is because he had his vaccinations yesterday.

Scoot, congrats to your dh on passing his exams, that's brilliant news. I did think of you whilst putting euros into the Golden Arches pot in France!

Sky, Congrats on your engagement. Howe lovely and exciting.

Lilaura, sorry you are having a tough time. You sound like you have your head well screwed on and your plan sounds a good one.

TYG, well done to A on getting herself off to sleep. Long may it continue.

LW&L, i too am an ebay addict. Although i am always trying to find things to get rid of. I have the rest of my maternity clothes, all of the clothes that are too small for Ella, ditto for Jack plus a 120 piece Denby cockery set etc etc etc

Pebble, hope you have a great holiday.

LG&T, Glad you had a nice camping trip. I wouldnt worry too much about the small weight gain, at least he did gain, Ella only does about 8oz a fortnight and the MW said that she was happy. I hope that he is piling it on now that you are home.

MrsJB, no news from Mothercare yet...... When it does arrive do you want me to cover up the picture on the box so that it is more of a surprise when M opens the box?

Sorry to those i have missed, but send a big wave

MrsJB, got your cheque this am. No extra pennies are needed, spot on. Ta

AM I love that you have your MIL to do the cleaning wish I could do that here.

SKY congrats how lovely for you.

Well done SCOOT on your DH's exams will celebrate with a big mac for lunch!

LG&T I wouldnt worry about B's weight I have not had A weighed for ages as I cant be arsed withthe whole HV thing as far as I am concerened as long as they are feeding well and sleeping well and are alert when awake they are fine.

WOOHOO on the sleeping front everyone seems like the cherubs are figuring it out whether that is through letting them have a little yell or bobbing off on their own.

Another lovley sunny day, and I'm off to seeing Prince tonight.

Have a great one.

think we have all been quite lucky with babes sleeping dont you? especially when i compare it to ds when he wa little he was still awake at 10.00pm at 7 months and awake at 6.00am - glad L-j is really good she goes down after her last bottle at 7.30 and she is awake when i put her up so she fals asleep by herself.
think its handy in that instance that i have such a small house because she is upstairs she still hears us and thinks we are there.

AM do you really think its agood plan - so many people have said that i shouldn't even let him in the house but he seems to be quite understanding about it. and i cant see the point in upsetting the kids more than needs be?

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baby freddie usually has bath sometime between 6.30 and 7. then feed, quick cuddle/wind with daddy then bed (asleep by 7.45 generally). sleeps til about 3 normally. has nappy change and feed then asleep again until anytime bewteen 6 and 8 (hubby get up about 5.45 so he often changes nappy around 6 if he needs it...but will usually go back down.)

last night freddie had bath at 6 and feed at 6.30 then bed. and we woke at 12.30 for a feed. bed again by 1 and sleep til 6.10.

i was surprised that a small difference of evening bed time made such a difference of time he woke up in the night? anyone else found this.

i tried the "dream feed" at 10ish a few times but he still woke about 3 or 4 so i dont bother now. i dont find it a prob to feed once in the night anyway as we both seem to get back of to sleep quickly. and its nice to have an evening with dh. also i dont like to wake him unnecessarily as he has always slept at least 6 hours when i put him down at night...so dont want to disrupt...

if i just carry on with this routine will he eventually sleep thru missing the night feed? or should i be doing something different?

first set of jabs this afternoon

was planning on giving calpol before we go. (mum recommended i do)
anyone else do this?

i do the colpol trick - when they are 3 months its ok to give them medised which is paracetomol, and antihistemenes (excuse spelling)

By doing what you are doing you are imo showing that you are the bigger person. You are giving him the opportunity to do 1 of 2 things. 1) show that he has changed and really is sorry, does want to see the children or 2) completely f it up and show true colours.

If it doesnt workout then at least in years to come when the children are old enough to understand they will see that you gave him every opportunity to change and he chose not to.

You are a strong woman and you know what you want and also what is best for your family. As long as he can see that then he will have to abide by the decisions and rules you make. If he doesnt like them and wont change then he knows where to go.

I know its easy to say as an outsider looking in and not actually knowing either of you, but i have in-laws and friends who have been through similar and also because i come from a -hate the term - 'broken home' and i know how hard it can be when parents split and hate each other.

thank AM you have made me feel better - im on a downer today i think - finally hitting me now i think

MID2 - definately give calpol beforehand. Dont worry too much (easy to say i know) they aredone so fast that its over before you know it.

I tried the 'dream feed' with Ella in the hope that she would sleep through but it made no difference and like Freddie she still woke at her usual time, which i think means that she didnt actually need the feed. I gave up doing that and just wait until she wakes up, normally between 4.30 & 6am Sometimes changing the routine can make a difference although sometimes it can just be a one off. You would need to do it for a few days to see it was that that wasmaking the difference.

I have to say that i love this 2nd time round thing, its great. I love how much more confident i am at making decisons and knowing what she needs and using the advice and tricks i had for Jack. Also the main thing is YOU lot. The April 05 thread was and still is quite dead. There certainly wasnt the support that we have on here and i think thats great, just wish i had had some of it back then

I really hope that it works out the way that YOU want it to. Just be strong but most of all just be yourself. Know what you are prepared to accept and what you are not. Only you will know if he means it. Dont take him back because you feel you have to and please dont think you have to do it for the kids. Children lead by example, if they grow up seeing that you are a strong person then they too should grow up to be the same, but if they see that you are easily trodden on and dont have any self pride then your dd's may think that thats the way they should be treated and your ds may think that he can treat gf's in the same way. This is obviously worst case senario and i dont have figures to prove that that is the case. My MIL is a prime example and her kids (not dh as he was brought up by his grandparents) are following their father......

just spoken to hubby bout this weekend he is having kids but will have to have hem here as he hasn't got any where to stay yet so i'm going to see friends tonight and staying at y mums tmrw night which will be nice as i havnt seen her in 3 months.

be good for you to have some 'me' time. enjoy

Im really nervous though, i havnt left all three wih him not even during the day. last time he was alone with kids was when i was pregnant and in hospital - i know they will be fine but l-j still so tiny - al im gonna think about al weekend is the dc

humpf............ looks like good old Auntie Flo has decided to come back from her holidays Exactly 4mths after Ella was born. Not fair

i need a holiay or just a weekend in a caravan - anything really any one got any ideas what i can do to cheer myself up with no money ???

she has reffered me to the nose and throat people too - i still havn't heard anything back about that yet either.

she seems to think its psycological because its not every time i eat its when other people (especially my DC are about ) or if there is too much noise. seems to be since i had my last baby , but like i said my hubby and i have been having problems too and i dont even attempt to eat when im really low or stressed because i know it will just get stuck in my throat and come bk up.

oops wrote that on wrong thread sorry girls lol

LG&T Emma Bunton has just had a baby boy called Beau! You are way ahead of even the celebs with your fab choice of name.

Lillaura..you sound like you have been thru the mill..I cant fined your thread but im glad you are coming on here to talk to us all and not bottling..lots of love to you..will look for your thread again so I can be on hand to give my (probably dubious) advice..

Im finding it much more enjoyable this time round too AM..thought I would be a wreck with two under two and although I have my moments, its not too bad and I am really enjoying it all..with L I was in such a huge panic the whole time that I was exhausted and I cant even remember her first three months..think my new calm state is rubbing off on M as well as like you and your J and E, she is a totally different kettle of fish to L..now im feeling better I really do feel very content

Hows the revising going LWandL?

My mate had a light show thingy that she swore by to get her baby off to sleep Tam, maybe get hold of one of them?

Here Cam, hows your international man of mystery getting along...is he (allegedly) setting up a new business, do I have that right?And the house sale?

F should eventually in theory drop the late night feed one day and go through MID..according to my book, but L never did, she dropped her 4am one first and the dream feed we kept till she was about 6 months, (largely cos I quite liked doing it [blush)she looked so gorgeous half asleep and slurping down her bottle all covered up to me)M has also dropped her 4am feed first, (touch wood)She goes to sleep after feeding at 10 and wakes up at 7 usually...cant get her to be asleep twixt 6pm and 10pm however-it is when she is most alert, so from next week controlled crying it may be...except she will wake L up is the issue in our tiny gaff!

CONGRATULATIONS SKY TV...When will the wedding be..will we start looking out our hats?!

Big wave to all ive missed..

Well done all of those who have been contributing the the Mc'd's pot..thats what I like to hear ..flake McFlurrie not a patch on the caramel one of our late pregnancies in my opinion, and am barraging DH with pleas to bring it back!He doesnt have that kind of power yet, but give him time...behind every man there is a woman desperate for lovely ice cream y'know!

OOOH!What did celebrity Beau weigh?!

Bets he's not a patch on 'our' one though...
She might be able to sing a bit, but can she raise 19 kids AND make delicious baked goods at the drop of a hat?I think not!
(Scoot drops baltant hints to be sent some sort of cake from largegandt thru obvious sucking up )