The March-ers 2019 - Baby Talk #2

[Angelmiracle]

Thread 2 for all our newborns ❤🤗👣

@melissa112 just been trying to catch up with the board and wanted to say 'hell yes' to the nap time struggles and the 14 week leap. My LO this week has been pooing sooooooo much! He's otherwise happy in himself and is smiling loads and really coming into his little personality. We had struggles earlier today trying to get him settled. He was doing exactly what you describe your LO doing, as in screaming, grabbing/hair pulling and we've had some bringing up feed aswell. He gets to the point of exhaustion sometimes and most of the time does eventually give in, but if he's relentless and I've done everything else I will feed him and he'll then at the very least calm down enough to settle him better. My LO has been really good at going through from around 7 to 5 bit tonight he was thrashing about in his cot so much he woke up. He'd had a massive poo so had to change him and he was all smiles and laughs until he then realised he'd emptied his stomach and was hungry again. Luckily he's gone straight down after. I'd decided to drop the dream feed so I hope this 11pm wake up was a one off! It has been really warm in our room though which I don't think helps

@Sheeni we haven't got to row your boat yet, I'm sure I'll enjoy that delight 😂 on a positive note after all my complaining, he loved the class so I'm really looking forward to the next one, even though i woke up with the sun song in my head today!

Please don't apolgise, you're not being a downer at all. As @Jenfur says, its tough but you seem to be having a really hard time with it and i honestly do wish i could suggest or do anything to help. Are you perhaps nearish to any of us for a coffee and a good old moan? I know it won't help but always good to get it out. Oh and please try not to feel guilty about telling LO to be quiet. My LO has been awful with fighting naps this week and i did get frustrated too, i think its only natural for it to get too much sometimes, especially when you have a lot going on.

@Jenfur and @kee80 yay to progress in the basket for the daytime naps, everytime i get more than 5mins i congratulate myself. Although do you also not dare go and start anything incase they wake? I'm so used to him waking after a few mins that i am amazed after half an hour, think i could have done the dishes in that time. Then don't bother because he'll probably wake up as soon as i start, then by some miracle he's still asleep 2 hours later and I've done nothing!

@ballanj oh no, sorry to hear you're also going through it! The other leaps he just slept more then awoke after a week with some new skills haha, i think he's been slightly better today with the nap fighting. The only thing that calms him is putting a rain/stormy white noise track on really loud then gradually lowering it as he falls asleep. How did it go last night without the dream feed? Oh wait, was that last night where he woke up? Its roasting isn't it, was 23.4 degrees upstairs when i last went up so I'm a bit panicky about what to put him in later when he goes up!

Tired mamma here!

My LO goes to sleep about 11.30pm/00.00 and usually at night feeds just before sleep then goes 3-4 hours before waking again but fed 1.5 to 2hrly in the day . Now she is feeding 1-1.5 hourly in the day and 1-2 hourly at night . I am so tired . Not sure why she's waking all the time for feeds . Anyone else experience this around the 12 week mark and does it resolve lol

@Jenlou1992 my lb did this when he was having his 12 week leap. It's said that if they're bf then they want more for comfort. We're ffing but he still wanted to feed more. It stopped after a week and a bit 😊

To all you ladies who had c sections... do you get pain when you've got a full bladder? I have to make sure I keep going to the toilet before I actually need to go otherwise I get UTI like pain underneath my scar. It doesn't hurt when I'm going to the toilet just beforehand. I'm assuming it's just my bladder pressing against the internal scar but I would have thought it would have eased off by now!

@Jenlou1992 my little one is 14wk tomorrow but when she was 11-12wk I did notice that she fed a lot more and slept more in the day too. Think it lasted about 5 days.

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever I had a c-section I'm not experiencing the full bladder pain but I have noticed that my lower back and stomach is really achy most days, like I'm going to get my period. Also (tmi sorry) it's been quite painful during sex, kind of feels like OH is to big for me and it hurts. Never had this problem before. I was thinking about seeing the doctor

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever @kee80 I sometimes still get the "dragging" feeling when I wee. I've also been getting pains around my scar this week, a little bit like shooting pains which I've put down to a combination of the heat in Mexico and feeling coming back to areas of it which are still numb

@kee80 my lower back is also sore. I think I'd go to do doctors with the pain after sex just in case.
@WhatALearningCurve that's a very good point actually! The feelings coming back for me too so that's probably what it is!

@melissa112 seems he's not missing the dream feed too much. I was panicking about trying to get 5 feeds in and was partly the reason I did the dreamfeed to give that extra one to take it to 5. But he's quite happy now going 4 hours between feeds, he has full bottles so today he's had feeds at 5:30, 10am, 3:30pm and 6:30pm. He's now gone to bed and I won't do a dream feed. He seems to wake up around 5 regardless of doing the dream feed or not! Unless he starts waking up stupidly early I'll keep things as they are. Plus I struggle to stay up beyond 10pm knowing he'll still wake up at 5!

We think there's teething going on too. He's become a fan of the dummy again and it's really helping him to settle down so I'm happy to give him one. He's very dribbly and he's had a bit of a sore bottom too. We've found lots of sudocrem in the nappy overnight is doing the trick, actually a lot better than the metanium!

I love that 'waking up with new skills' 😂 it's so true though! How are you doing feed and sleep wise?

@kee80 thank you . I am hoping it won't be hourly feeding forever. It's literally been on the hour if not before . Just got her to sleep. Hoping she goes a bit longer tonight as I'm feeling rather tired .

I go to a weaning course thing tomorrow. I know it's early but when I emailed the lady to book on for when she's 5 months she said I could go anytime and I am getting excited about it all so I am hoping to learn lots about weaning as I know absolutely nothing . I am planning to wait till she's 6 months but I do know people do it earlier . Anyone here got any plans yet ?

@Jenlou1992 I'm not planning on wearing till 6 months but I was thinking about how we'll do it before.

He just seems so little still that I can't picture how he'll be ready for food in 2 months ha

@jenlou1992 I also recall mine feeding non stop around then. It got silly and I went to the breast feeding drop in to ensure it wasn't something I was doing wrong but they said it was just him having a leap and it'd stabilise soon. We delved into our frozen stash get us through the day as I felt my supply couldn't keep up with him but we are back to 'normal' now where he has one 5oz bottle of formula, one bottle of expressed that I've collected the previous day and then the rest from me. Think it lasted about 10 days but it was hell on the feeding front. Hope Rose settles down soon!! Plus side is when he came out of that leap he could do loads more cool stuff and was way more interested in toys.

I actually went on a weaning course earlier this week as plan to do it from 6 months, but as the children's centres shut from mid July this was the last one I could do before he will be that age. The consensus there was only do it before 6 months if a doctor tells you to do it, @sheeni they might tell you do it sooner (although only advised from 17+ weeks) as apparently it can help babies with reflux who are on meds... Maybe ask about it?

@ballanj can't believe your baby only feeds 4 times a day and doesn't need feeding at night, sounds like the dream!! How much do you give per feed, out of interest?

@ballanj also with you on the teething front. He's definitely been at it for about a week and for the lead up to that he became obsessed with anything he could chew and started wanting to carry around a muslin cloth with him. Our week by week book has the focus topic on teething for week 15 so he was bang on time. We've found giving him a cool teething ring with teething gel on it helps at night, coupled with the occasional dosage of calpol helps at nights when he's really struggling to sleep.

@cardboard33 at the moment he has 7oz (looks more like 8 and a half when it's made up though) and he can go 4 hours between feeds. Sometimes it's 3 hours, jt varies really depending on his mood.

He has however been exclusively bottle fed since birth which I wonder whether it makes a difference in terms of frequency/how long he can go between feeds.

I'm also with everyone on the teething front. He's been teething for a good few weeks but the dribble and chewing on his fingers has stepped up a notch! He's constantly got a wet face and his hands in his mouth. We've got teething rings but he's still not holiding onto things yet. He'll wrap things around his fingers (hair, Muslin, blanket etc.) but I can't give him anything to hold onto. When did everyone else's babies start to grasp things?

@ballanj that's really good how your little one feeds. Mines been bottle fed from 10 days old and she only takes between 3-5oz and still goes every 2 hours in the day!

Regarding the teething I've noticed this past week she has constantly got her fingers in her mouth and dribbling quite a lot. @AssumeItWasSomethingClever mines 14wks today and she still can't grasp things yet. She can reach out for them but not hold them just yet. Like yours she wraps things round her fingers/hands

Hey all, thank you for the responses and encouragement. I'm struggling to find time (and energy) to respond! I used to get a chance during breastfeeding/napping, but my LO needs to hold my hand now If I don't hold his hand during feeding, he'll push the boob so much he unlatches. If I don't hold it during napping, he'll wake himself up. Very frustrating.
@kee80 We've tried Mam teats and so far we had the same lack of success as with the other teats. Nuk was best so far, but mostly with the expressed breast milk only. Which is a challenge for me. Also, he tires himself out on the bottle and then doesn't really drink a lot on the breast, which defeats the purpose of supplementing with formula for extra food anyway.

We managed to get the Omeprazole syrup prescribed, as he wasn't getting on that well with the crushed tablets. Omg that thing is vile! He's spitting it all out - and I can't blame him. Drives me nuts as I had to beg the GP for it, as it's much more expensive than the tablets.

He seems to be teething as well, biting on his hands (and ours, if he can get hold of them), drooling everywhere. Lucky it's summer, can't imagine him being drenched in his own drool in the middle of winter! I just ordered some teethers, even though he's not very good at holding stuff yet and keeps missing his mouth when he tries to put anything there.

I think bottle/breast does make a difference @ballanj. We are combi feeding although only with one bottle of formula a day to ensure he doesn't go off it. Regardless of what mode he's taking it in, I still think that's impressive although part of me worries that when we stop breast feeding I'll have to be really careful not to overfeed him as atm I just put him on me if he's unsettled whereas with formula you have to be a lot more inventive as they can't just have as much as they want. What do you do in that situation?

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever mine is around 16.5 weeks and literally this evening we just saw him transfer things between each hand and pick them up again when he dropped them (if they were in eye sight) whereas before now he's only handled the elephant toy on his playmat with such precision.

For those who are teething... Have you found that the poos have stepped up? And when should you become worried? From about week 8 to 15 he was only pooing every couple of days whereas in the last week (since the aftermath of no poo for a week) he's been pooing 3-4 times a day, mostly within 10 mins or so after a feed. However his temp is fine and he seems completely normal/happy within himself (aside from the teething pain) so we aren't sure whether we should be concerned or if it's normal? I've read various contradictory things about bowel movements being more loose due to the saliva during teething so maybe it's just that?

Reg holding things again, mine has been holding something (rattle, spoons, bottle etc) for about 5 weeks if you put it directly into his hand and he would wave it around with ease for the last 3 weeks but then if he dropped it then it'd be game over until you gave it him back. It's only been today that I've seen him properly picking up things without us putting it into his hand.

Just catching up we are in the midst of the 4 month sleep regression oh what joy

A great homemade teether is tie knots along the length of a muslin and wet squeeze out the excess then either put in the fridge or freezer and once cold let them chew on it. If you put it in the freezer just make sure it’s not to cold for them.
Matchstick monkey or Sophie giraffe the ring style one are usually easy for them to hold at this age.

I am up with a sore throat luckily dd is asleep but wish I was

@Wineandchoccy I'm dreading the 4 months! She's 14 wks so not long now . Hope you feel better soon.
I had a viral infection for about a week got rid of it then woke in the night Monday with a really bad sore throat, I now have tonsillitis!

@kee80 oh no get well soon. I have woken up sounding like I have had 60 cigarettes, blurgh!!

@Wineandchoccy thank you. Hope you feel better soon. Definitely
something going about

Got little man weighed today. He's finally gone up a percentile so they're happier with his weight gain. (He's now 12lb 5)

Thought great. We've turned a corner because he's finally started draining 7oz bottles. (2 weeks ago he'd regressed and was barely having 4oz at each feed.

He now seems to be back on hunger strike.

He had 7oz last night at 7 when we put him to bed. He woke up at 10 and had another 4oz. Had 6 at about 1:30 and another 6 about 5am.

I then had to wake him at 9 to go to the drs and he's not yet eaten and has slept for all but about an hour since then (in different parts).

He did eat a lot more than usual last night (usual feeds would be 7pm, 1 or 2am and then around 9 when hew up (wakes at 8 but doesn't eat straight away).

Does anyone else's baby keep going on hunger strike?! He's very happy and very content - just doesn't seem bothered about eating which obviously isn't an ideal!

Oh and he's also not pooed since Saturday so I'm aware he might just be absolutely full but I'm also terrified of the explosion that's coming my way ha

@WhatALearningCurve my little one doesn't feed through the night, she now sleeps through. During the day she goes every 2-3 hours depending on how many naps she has. She will only take between 2.5-5oz every feed. She weights 12lb9 and she's 14wks. She has dropped a little on her chart since birth but health visitor said it's not to worry about and no concerns.
She also seems happy and content in herself. I have to take her every 3-4wks to get weighted just check she's still gazing. She gains about a lb every 4 wks