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The March-ers 2019 - Baby Talk #2

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Angelmiracle · 06/05/2019 23:16

Thread 2 for all our newborns ❤🤗👣

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WhatALearningCurve · 19/06/2019 13:33

Mine was fighting naps last week. It was awful because he was just exhausted! It's over now but honestly I kept having to go out in the car because it was the only thing working

melissa112 · 19/06/2019 16:11

Oh glad I'm not the only one. How old is he now? George slept for over 3 hours in his basket, unheard of for daytime. Must have needed it. Woke up in a much better mood!

WhatALearningCurve · 19/06/2019 17:11

15 weeks today so I think it was definitely a stage

cardboard33 · 19/06/2019 17:21

@shiny888 I know what you mean, we've got towels with a hood bit on but also want to get a more towelled poncho type thing. How many weeks have you been swimming for now?

@melissa112 I feel for you ... It's so hard sometimes as it feels like once you've figured something out someone changes the goal posts and you're back to square one. We are nearly at 16 weeks now (although 13 weeks on due date basis) and he's been properly napping for a few weeks now but there was a point a few weeks ago (maybe 12/13?) where he just screamed constantly, wanted to feed all of the time and got massively over tired. We've had fun and games with sleep recently too, some days he has his nap without a fuss then other times it takes forever. There have been days where we've walked around and around the parks to get him to sleep. There's lots of leaps around 14 weeks, although tbh after paying for the wonder weeks app I barely look at it as I don't find it overly useful. But yay for sleep!! Mine is also napping now after struggling to sleep the whole day Smile

melissa112 · 19/06/2019 19:46

@WhatALearningCurve ah definitely sounds like a phase around 14 weeks then! Last time he had a leap he slept loads but this time it looks like we're gonna get through it in a less pleasant way 🤣 glad you are out the other side!

@cardboard33 does your LO have set times when he naps? Glad he's fallen asleep for you now but just realised that was a couple of hours ago! Ah sounds like you went through the same thing and so glad to hear that things are much better now. Gives me hope! But also sorry to hear the naps are getting harder to start. I did read they start getting an adult sleep cycle around 4 months so maybe something to do with that?

Do you plan the groups you go to around feeds? I normally do a loose feed schedule of 6-6:30am, 10:30am, 2:30pm, 7pm and 10:30pm dream feed (never manage to not wake him!) but we have baby sensory starting on Friday at 11:15 and i wont have finished feeding and letting him sit up by the time we leave. I'm getting in a flap about whether to feed him at 10 on a Friday. Just wondering what others who go to groups do about usual feed times and naps etc!

cardboard33 · 19/06/2019 20:56

Yeah, everyone talks about the 4 month sleep regression (although it can start anywhere from 3-5 months) where they struggle to adapt to adult sleeping phases. Apparently some babies have a really hard time with it for weeks/months and with others it's over very quickly. Maybe some of the not first time mums can tell us how it was for their older ones??

We have a rough feeding schedule although tbh I just tend to feed on demand/to shut him up. If I know we've got to be somewhere (aka every day given our classes schedule atm) then I'll plan to have finished feeding him about 20 mins before we need to leave and work backwards (he takes about 30 mins to feed, it used to be longer but I've started limiting his time on each breast) from there in the hope he then won't need feeding during the hour session that I've paid for ... But he usually always does, particularly if there's other babies feeding or he's a bit tired/sensory overload. I've lost literally the entire class sometimes to him feeding and I've been THAT girl disrupting the class with a screaming baby! In your situation I'd just feed him at 10, potentially taking a top up with you for if he needs it or if he doesn't finish the bottle. Does your sensory class have a 10 min play break in the middle? Lots of mums in mine feed their baby then or just get bottle/breast out during activities. No one seems to mind and tbh it's almost expected.

cardboard33 · 19/06/2019 21:09

And in the last week or two (probs from around 13/14 weeks) he's been having a proper nap at lunch (usually around 1pm but can be as early as 12.30 or as late as 2.30 if he really is fighting it) and usually he's asleep for 90 mins to 2 hrs. I've started putting him upstairs in the dark and he just goes to sleep now without too much intervention from me. Then he has another shorter sleep around 5-6 downstairs. Then we start putting him to bed at 8 ... And given he's been a cry baby tonight he's had 6oz formula from daddy and is now draining my breasts too.

Jenlou1992 · 20/06/2019 13:10

Can't remember who said there LO fav song is five little ducks but that's my little ones fav too haha

I need to book onto some classes for my LO. Haven't been any yet as wanted to wait till she shows more interest . She will be 12 weeks on Friday . We do go baby aqua and have done since she was 7 weeks old and I also take her to the sensory room near me once a week .

Any recommendations for which classes to do ?

Also she gets the hiccups a few times a day . Not necessarily after feeding . Just randomly. I think it's because she producing so much saliva now . Anyone else experience this

WhatALearningCurve · 20/06/2019 13:40

@Jenlou1992 mines had hiccups from birth. I pretty much get them from breathing and he seems to have inherited that off me ha. It never seems to bother him though

kee80 · 20/06/2019 14:11

@Jenlou1992 mines same has @WhatALearningCurve she's had them since birth. I fact she used to get them a lot whilst I was pregnant with her too.
I've noticed she's also producing a lot of saliva to a lately

Jenlou1992 · 20/06/2019 14:36

Yeah she had them in the womb lots too! She can get a little frustrated with them but otherwise it doesn't seem to bother her .

I've been looking online and fitness classes that you can take the baby too . Anyone else interested in getting back into fitness ? I took my sister's dog out yesterday and I feel so so unfit . I've just done a 20 minute workout of YouTube for post partum women . Got to 17 mins and LO just wasn't impressed watching me any longer and I had to skip the cool down to see to her . So not sure if paying to go somewhere is a waste of money if I'm going to be soothing her some of the time . Maybe I should stick to home work outs and walking the dog

Sheeni · 20/06/2019 15:16

@Jenlou1992 My LO gets hiccups a lot, too. Sometimes they bother him, depending on whether they kick off his reflux or not. He had hiccups daily in the womb. I found it funny then, less so now.

I think any classes are more about getting out and seeing some other adults than the actual activity. I take the additional activity as a bonus. He slept through one class, screamed through another, it doesn't matter really.
If you can find baby massage class, that's what I'd recommend. We don't do purely massage, but a mixed class of yoga (where we just move his legs to rhymes) massage and other activities, but the massage is nice!

We're still having rough time. Changed medication to Omeprazole two days ago, as he's gaining less and less. I wish we postponed the vaccinations a week, as he had those on the same day and now I don't know if he's having side effects of the meds or jabs, so not sure if I should wait it out or what. He's been screaming in pain, inconsolable and unable to fall asleep yesterday from 8pm to half eleven. It was heartbreaking, my husband actually started crying as he felt so sorry for the little mite.
I just hope the LO finally poops today. It's been two days and that's not normal for him. Stupid rotavirus vaccine, I think.

kee80 · 20/06/2019 16:26

@Jenlou1992 I was thinking about doing some workouts at home. Do you have any recommendations for ones on YouTube?

@Sheeni your poor baby he really is having a tough time, I really feel for you. Hope he feels better soon.

Today I've been trying to get my little one to nap more in her bouncer or Moses basket instead of on me. I've managed to put her down twice after a few screaming outbreaks. She's managed the whole of 20mins in them. If I let her sleep on me she will go for a good hour to 2.
Anyone got any tips? I don't mind her napping on me in the day just means I can't do anything and I would like to get her into some sort of daytime routine. She's fine st night goes down in her cot and straight to sleep

cardboard33 · 20/06/2019 19:24

@jenlou1992 I've been going to Busy Lizzy (it's a franchise) that combines fitness classes for mums and sessions for babies like massage, music etc. There's outdoor things like buggy fit etc but I've been going to the aerobics, yoga and pilates where the focus is on you but you can bring your baby, there's areas to entertain them and you can feed/change/hold your baby etc during the session too. It's good as you don't have to commit to the same sessions every week, you can also book with 30 mins notice and cancel without penalty up to 2 hours before. I did the free trial and then they sent me a code to waive the membership fee so it works out as £8 per session which is the same price as the non children's centre classes that we've attended.

We've been to a few different baby massage/yoga/sensory classes and they all seem to incorporate elements of everything.

@sheeni we didn't have poo issues but lots of others mentioned poo issues (either too much or too little) post vaccine.

@kee80 I've realised that mine only wants to nap in the day if he's away from all stimulants to attract his attention. I put him in a dark room with his day sleep music on and make the bouncer face a blank wall. He usually drops off within 5 mins if he's tired enough or sometimes I have to rock it a little, then we are trying to transition into the next to me crib for the lunch time naps but that's a bit more hit and miss.

Jenlou1992 · 20/06/2019 20:50

Thank you all for your replies .

@kee80 I did a work out from a lady who has lots of post partum work outs and she's called BodyFit by amy . It was 20 minute one I did and it was good

kee80 · 20/06/2019 21:27

@cardboard33 thanks for that I will give it a try. I did try her in her next to me crib this afternoon but she screamed, so that's a no for now.

@Jenlou1992 I'll have a look at her on YouTube thanks

Jenlou1992 · 21/06/2019 01:02

My LO is refusing to sleep tonight . She usually fast asleep by midnight . She's just screaming when I put her down . Not had trouble in over 2 weeks getting her to sleep . She's 12 weeks tomorrow . Anyone else have this ?

kee80 · 21/06/2019 08:24

@Jenlou1992 I've not had trouble at night but I have in the day when it comes to day time naps. She's 13+3wks and just started. Have you tried white noise? When my little one is fussy at bed time I put it on and it calms her down straight away. Hope you managed to get some sleep.

Those of you who have took little one swimming was it to a pool just for babies or just your regular swimming pool but obviously the baby side?

melissa112 · 21/06/2019 10:41

Oh yeh good point @cardboard33 if any of you have any experiences with 4month sleep regression it would be great to be somewhat prepared 🙂 sounds like you're getting into a good routine with his daytime naps. Is he awake inbetween those? George is 15wks on Monday and still gets cranky after about an hour to 90mins tops of being awake. I fed him at 7am and just gave him 6oz instead of the usual 7 at 10 as a top up. He only took 5 but can't see him needing more before we get back but they do have a play break so thats a good shout to give a top up then as needed.

@Jenlou1992 haha it was me whose LO loves 5 little ducks. Its the only thing that will get him to do more than a minute tummy time without crying so we use that and the really annoying version of wheels on the bus to get 5mins tummy time in the morning. The rest of the day i just use toys to distract him but still hates it. We've done a baby massage course which is free through a start well group i think its called. We've done 3 of 5 weeks and I've still not massaged him outside of the class 🤦‍♀️ we start baby sensory today and have done a taster already and think I'd recommend it. There's a class called Tots Play i think. I'm gutted as the ones nearest to me are maybe slightly too far just now but looks like a mix of sensory, sign language, massage, baby yoga and some other bits. Think they have them all over as my friend who lives in the Midlands did the class and another friend from Manchester.

@Sheeni so so you're still having a rough time of it. Poor baby. What does the HV say about the gains? I feel for you all and really hope things start to get better soon for him xx

@kee80 no tips on the putting down to nap but will be keeping an eye on the advice from others. Thought we had turned a corner with this last week but nope..!!

We've had a really horrible week. He is still going through whatever he's going through, leap, growth spurt, i dont know. All i know is that unless i have hold of him he will not be put down. He does still play on his mat but things that were a minor inconvenience to him before ,i.e. me putting him down to wash hands after changing him have become a massive blow up each time. I was making his bottle yesterday so had him in his basket and he was screaming so much he started to gag 😔😔 he fights naps in the most horrendous way, scratching, kicking, planking, screaming. This is when we have the main issues as he is still ok in himself when not tired. He takes ages to settle, if i put him down he instantly wakes and screams (whereas last week he was starting to be ok in his basket for a couple of hours). He is starting to wake during the night too but thankfully will allow himself to be settled back to sleep. My mum came to help me after work yesterday and couldn't believe how much he was fighting the naps. Hope this leap/spurt is over soon!

Off to baby sensory now. Hope he enjoys it!

melissa112 · 21/06/2019 10:42

@Sheeni so sorry* not so so!

melissa112 · 21/06/2019 14:29

Argh, got the Say Hello to the Sun song stuck in my head, class finished 2 hours ago 😬

Sheeni · 21/06/2019 14:51

@melissa112 Haha, I am now resigned to the fact that I'll never get the Row, row, row your boat out of my head ever again.

HV advised us to get the different medication, as she's not happy with his gains either. Like, she's glad he's gaining and not losing, but it's too slow.

I had a meltdown today, screamed like a crazy person at everyone and everything. Had an appointment to go to and DH put the car seat into the isofix attachment and I had no idea how to get it out. LO crying, me crying (and shouting at him to be quiet for one second so I can think straight - which I feel super guilty about since then). When I say meltdown, I mean Meltdown. I'm just so frustrated that everything is so difficult with this child. There is literally no time when either me or my husband don't have to hold him. It's so exhausting and I can't even leave him for more than 2 hrs as he still won't take the effing bottle.

Sorry for being such a downer again, I'm just so unhappy with my life right now. I knew motherhood is going to be difficult, but nobody prepared me for this level of difficulty.

Jenfur · 21/06/2019 17:56

@Sheeni Sorry to hear you're having a hard time still. Mines the same and won't really take a bottle though I admit I haven't pushed the issue too much. I'm sure there's nothing new here but have you tried your husband feeding him rather than you so he can't smell the source, even if you have to be in another room altogether? Have you tried lots of bottles or are you persevering with one type? We tried tommee tippee and he just gagged all the time, spat it out and didn't manage even an Oz but was better with Dr Brown, have only tried once but he managed the Oz I gave him with less problems. I've also heard other people say that whichever bottle you choose, stick with it and they'll get the hang of it eventually - no experience of that myself but I would've just been trying loads of different types without thinking that persevering would be better.

Do you want to continue breastfeeding? I don't know if this is one thing that's making you unhappy but if so, would you be happier to switch to bottles? Just thinking, if baby is exclusively bottle fed then they would somehow get the hang of bottles as they wouldn't have a choice.

Wish I had better advice about sleeping during the day but mine isn't keen on being put down - he stayed asleep in his basket for an hour one day this week and I was amazed because he usually does 10 minutes, if he doesn't wake up instantly. He does have his older brother shouting and waking him up though.

Jenfur · 21/06/2019 17:57

Also meant to say that motherhood is hard but sounds like you're having a harder time than most. Ask for help from anyone you can to give you a break and look after yourself - you need to be healthy to help baby.

kee80 · 21/06/2019 20:25

@Sheeni sounds like your having a tough time, sorry to hear this. When I changed from breast to bottle I used mam bottles and little one took a bit of time to get used to them but was fine after a while as she knew there was nothing else.
Like @Jenfur said if your wanting to exclusively bottle then maybe just give bottle and no breast see how that goes. Sorry I have no other advice.

Regarding sleeping in the day I managed to put her down in Moses basket whilst she was tired and she slept for 45mins which is a first. Also this afternoon she was starting to fall asleep on me so laid her on the sofa and she slept for 2 and half hours. That's amazing to say she would only sleep on me for that amount of time