Born in June - waiting on the last few!

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new thread, sorry for the unimaginative title!

flip i used to be able to catch up on this thread in seconds - not now though oh no not since those last 3 chatty ones had their babies!!!!
how's it going Holly - i saw your post re your DP bloody men!!!!

Bloody men! I will wait til weds to kill him. If he gets sacked I will rip his head off! Twunt!

How are you?

good morning....or is it??

DD didn't settle till 11:30, then up at 1:30 till 3, then 4:30 till 6:00 and she's fed pretty constantly since 8 o'clock this morning..........yaaaaawwwwwnnnn!

been trying to get her latched better. i get her latched on pretty well, then she writhes and wriggles and pulls back to where she wants to be. take her off and she does the same thing...and again and again. my nips are red raw this morning and she's full of wind and howling when she isn't on my norks.

my enthusiasm for this is slowly waning

Awwww daisy, I thought it was getting better. William does the on off on off thing, it really annoys me, especially in public and milk is spraying everywhere and running down my top! Have you tried expressing a bit first or using shields again for a bit to help with the latch? I don't know what else to suggest. Sorry you are finding it hard, all I can say is it does get better, but that is prob not much help atm xxx

I'm just tired holly....yes i thought it was supposed to get better too

although having read lots of bf threads on here it seems like most women hit a bit of a wall at six weeks (coinciding with 6 week growth spurt?)

the clucking i have established as due to let down as i can feel it happening then she starts to pull off. then she is being lazy as there's lots of milk so no need to work at it. the on again off again is after the first splurge when she does need to work at it a bit and obviously isn't liking it. she gets so frustrated. short of trying to hold her head so she can't pull back (thereby traumatising her for life and giving her a morbid fear of large wobbly boobs and big bron nipples) I'm out of ideas.

you can put a baby to the breast, but you can't make her drink

I have done nothing at all today, except sit and watch cooking shows in my pjs! We have 2 Polish girls (long story) staying with us mon and tues so I really need to sort out upstairs. I can't really be arsed, I am so hungry, but can't eat until between 1 and 3 when the tesco van arrives to bring me goodies. We don't even have bread!

morning daisy, you know it may sound daft but sometimes the mum's nipple is just a bit too big for the babies mouth and only when the baby grows enough can they take the whole nipple into their mouth, could this be why she keeps pulling back???? does she gag if put on properly by you??

Sorry for abandoning you there Holly i'm trying to book a holiday for next year so going between a few tabs at the mo!!

do you express a bit each time before puting her on???? total PITA i know but if she doesn't like the speed of your initial flow it may help her???

I have to say I do sort of hold William's head in place so he can't come off. Sometimes he spits out the nipple and snorts and then starts screaming, but usually he just goes straight back on again. Does babyboo stay on once the milk starts flowing? William sometimes just sits there not sucking with his mouth open just letting the milk squirt in! Lazy bugger!

at your typical lazy boy Holly!!!!
well my DS and DD1 are coming home today i've talked to them every day and have really missed them - even though it has been nice NOT having to tidy up the house constantly!!!!

Where you going on hols derlor? I said to dp the other day that I need a holiday. He then pointed out to me that we went to oz in sept and dubai in jan! Oops!

Daisy - my wee one a right wriggler too, she tugs at my nips & pulls her head back or shakes it like a puppy. Think might be wind as sometimes she feeds like an angel. My nipples are killing me, 4 weeks in & they haven't toughened up at all. She also falls asleep & when I try & remove her, clamps down for dear life. Sometimes wonder why I fought so hard to keep going with this.

Wow derlor, they've been away for ages! Hope you've had a lovely rest, but you must have missed them so much. Hope they had a lovely time.

Keep fighting tallulah, it is worth it! Sorry you are having a hard time, bfing is really hard. I think you should be told before having your baby how difficult it can be so you are prepared for it. Women think because they are finding it hard that they are failures and can't bf, when that is so far from the truth. It took me 3 months to get the hang of bfing with my dd, but we got there and carried on for over a year. Keep going, you are doing a great job!

derlor, i tried expressing first but struggled to get let down to happen (although it happens at random moments otherwise...like when the fan kicks in on my laptop, or the bin lorry is outside; must be the noise ?, but strangely not when babyboo cries, wtf???)

will try expressing again.

she often just lets it pour in as well holly and shakes her head like your dd tallulah.

god we're in for a day of it, she wants more again or she has bad wind, can't decide but she wont stop screaming and rooting.

William sometimes roots when he can't possibly be hungry, but just has wind. I don't think at this age they can distingush between the pain of hunger and the pain of wind. I hate trying to work out what he wants!

my let down is random too - not when LO cries either, haven't noticed connection to bin lorry though!!!!!
Holly we are trying to book up for a skiing holiday in Feb/March, trying to get a family room or ajoining rooms in a chalet or hotel that has in house child care and right next to the slopes AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!, ALL SOLD OUT ALREADY!!!
Tallulah, you are doing great my love, keep going if you can cause i promise you when it all comes together it is a lovely, beautiful experience for you and your LO

it's great seeing your dcs when they've been away. DS used to go away with his dad and gps quite a bit before dh and i got back together. the break was great, but it was always good to see him again....hmmm daisy thinks he should go away for a week more often

right, dd is on again, but she's tickling the end of my nipples and her cheeks are sucking in when she sucks. that's not right, is it?

....that was obviously just windy pain as she was just using me as a dummy and playing with the end of my nipple.

she's sleeping now......but for how long?

dreamt about real nappies last night. i've been researching them to the point of absession and can't stop thinking about them. I really need to get out more

I'm not sure daisy. Sometimes I get really itchy sort of tickly boobs when feeding, is that the feeling you are getting?

obsession, obviously!

rooting does not always signify hunger - if baby is rooting but then fussing and shaking her head at the breast then don't force it. Daisy/Tallulah have you tried to swaddle them and put them down in their cot in the dark to soothe them - even during the day? Overfeeding causes excessive wind so it can become a vicious circle IYKWIM?

that's exactly it holly, but tickly in a "that's not very nice" way.

derlor....I love you for being the calm voice of reason.

It's a horrid feeling isn't it? Itchy sort of deep inside so you can't scratch it! Glad you get it too, I thought I was odd!