April 2007 - when the contents of your baby's nose are interesting, you know you need a night out!

[JoMa]

keep it clean please Katy

Hi loves, just dropping in quickly.

Can someone fabulously technical start a new thread??

Thank you. x

Feel shit today. Had a run in with B again and have said some awful things. She has a taster session at big school this afternoon, and I was so wanting to be upbeat, positive etc. and failed terribly. Dropped her off at preschool earlier and she seems fine, but I came home and sobbed. Emailed dh to tell him I was leavng etc etc. Feel so bloody tired even tho K is sleeping thru.

Sorry for the rant.

Hope everyone is ok.

If anyone knows about paypal can you check out my thread in chat!!!

Thanks JoMa.. they look fab if they are just like the lansinoh ones.. another thing to send via my sisters though.. they wanted 7 quid to mail them out, the pads only cost 4.99!! eek..

GMM - Oooohh posh hotel.. very nice.. am very

Like the look of that baby gym too.. SIL bought us the vertbaudet one and I hate it. I know that´s really ungrateful but I just wanted one with a pretty plain mat on the bottom and..oh well I just would have chosen something different and now I feel obligated to use it. It´s just so impractical for hot summer months to lie N in a big pillow of polyester and the toys that hang are crap. No wonder he doesn´t like it

Dippy, hope today helps your mood pick up a bit, and SOKL, sorry to hear you're having a bad day. Hope you can find a way to sort things out or talk them through.

Warning: following words are me feeling really really sorry for myself. Please feel free to skip!

I went to see our health visitor this morning and ended up crying on her shoulder! I'm tired and mopey, this is the first week I've had so much time to start feeling cut off from "normal" life - or life before baby? dp and I had a row in the middle of the night over how to deal with a wakeful baby. I thought we should get up quickly and deal with nappy change, feed etc, between us, Mike was trying to soothe baby back to sleep and I didn't think it would work when baby's hungry.

dp does an awful lot including most of the night feeds etc, and it doesn't seem quite fair, but we have real differences in how we deal with sleep deprivation. I'm worried about him getting too tired, we're both getting grouchy and worse. We made up after our row but whenever he gets mad at me I get even angrier because it's in front of Danny, and then I feel angry with myself too for it. I don't want to be shouting and swearing at each other in front of a child who's learning to understand the words used....

Elkie, sounds like you are having a crap time as well. Hope you and dp can get sorted, and whilst it isn't ideal to have a shouting match in front of the lo's, Danny at this age won't know any of the words. Wait 'til he is 2 +. B is coming out with some choice words at the moment

Quick {{{{{hugs}}}}}} to Elkie & SOKL .... hope today gets better for you guys. Here for you. xx

Off to pick up DD1 from Pre-School & then spend the PM at a friends ..... jsut trying to kill a bit of time as lunch took less time that it usually does!! So DD2 is watching Peppa Pig & I'mm posting quickly here......

Kisses to all. xxxx

On a more positive note, I've lots of getting out and about to look forward to over the next few days.

A shopping trip with my dad's help this afternoon

Monday meeting up with someone from a Mumsnet local thread who also had a baby recently at the Whittington (just a week before me I think), and a home visit from the health visitor with a breastfeeding counsellor. Maybe Danny will be awake for once - the problem with going out to look for bf support is that he's always asleep when we arrive!

Tuesday - taking Danny to meet his dad's mother in Cambridge - she lives in Kings Lynn and usually comes to meet dp for the day in London, but is quite old and frail and can't walk very far. I think it would be very hard for dp to deal with Danny and his mum alone. Cambridge is in between us and her and dp, Danny and I can get a train there without travelling into central London first, and the surroundings are a bit nicer than London Kings Cross or Kings Lynn.

Hugs to everyone feeling low. SOKL, you sound really down and in really negative rut with B - if it would help at all I've a copy of that Tanya Byron book (bought it after a bad day with dd but it's really aimed at slightly older kids TBH), I'd be happy to send it to you.

This is a really tough phase TBH, DH and I struggled last time and are struggling again - both thinking the other one has the easier time of it, both tired etc. I keep reminding myself that it gets much better & to try and be nice to DH!!

Afternoon

to Dippy, Elkie and SOKL sorry you're not having a good day.

I met Pinions this morning in the park with her DS2. It felt like a blind date. She's lovely and her DS in gorgeous. She was relieved that I wasn't a man in an anorak pretending to be a mum

Nutty def need to try and get the 3 of us together soon.

Off to baby massage now.

Hope all have noce afternoon.

Hi all

Before I forget, SOKL you do sound down; perhaps you might consider talking to someone professionally? I know I do bang on about this, but a good counsellor can avoid a real bout of depression. Many psychodynamic services do offer reduced rates to see a student counsellor. These are not kids, but adults (mostly mid-30s on) training after working in other professions (often related), and they will be very far on in their training. It won't be like seeing someone after a six-week course at the local tech! Just a thought, anyway, and sorry if this is me sticking my big beak in

I had an AWFUL experience yesterday: was walking to my Mother & Toddler group, pushing my flash double buggy which has a carrycot one side, a seat the other. I have to pass a pedestrian crossing which goes between two halves of a secondary school, and often I get there as the classes change, so there are streams of kids crossing the road and behaving as though I and my HUGE buggy are invisible. This, I am used to.

However, yesterday I heard something whizz past my ear and land, at real force, in the carrycot right next to the baby's head!!!! It was something hard and green, like a crab apple or early conker (I dropped it, so am not sure). Had it hit G at that force, in the head, it could even have killed him - I am not exaggerating. Probably it was intended to hit me, but that is hardly the point. I gave them a right mouthful, really angry, and I am certainly going to write to the headmaster (for all the good it will do), but when I got to M&T, I burst into tears, thus upsetting DS1. So a pretty crap day all in all. G was blissfully unaware of all the drama and slept through it, thank goodness.

Otherwise, I just want to say how fantastic the Bum Fluff nappy site is, run by a mumsnetter (I think flamesparrow?). So fab.

Oh, and Maveta & Nutty - the stuffables I mean and don't like are Nature Babes or whatever they are called. Just can't make them work. But I only have one in each size, so not too disastrous.

Love to all, especially those like elkie and Dippy who are feeling blue.
xx

hello
lovely & sunny here
thanks for all the reassurances abt T, we've been meaning to have it checked for a while, but last night he seemed to be struggling to breathe. DH has asthma, luckily there's no signs he's got it. Doc said it might be lazy larynx (floppy larynx?) which is a development issue and no big deal, just to keep an eye.
Are the post offices closed today?

hugs to everyone feeling down

We've realised T can do this very amusing! We've also got him a black and white mobile (cardboard, assemble it yourself thing) and he loves it, can recommend it!

leaky, you might have kidnapped pinions for all we know you scary anorak man. And forced her to give her pwd so you can post on her behalf &we wont get suspicious!!

Hi Bugmum...I love bumfluff nappies (Flame gave me some advice before I bought!). Have you got one of her tye dye wambamboo's cos they are gorgeous . Have just been washing mine!

DH has taken Erin to Parent & toddler/baby group today. Neither of us feel very well but he's a bit better then me. I keep going a bit dizzy...am going to start taking spatone again (thought the dizziness might be a bit of anaemia again - perhaps cos I've just had my period???)

Elkie - Me & DH have days/evenings/nights just like that where we're both tired and a bit fed up. I get mad at him because he gets a break from being with baby (ie when he's at work) and he gets mad at me cos he's always working (either at work or with baby). We've agreed that at a weekend I always get a couple of hours without the baby (he takes her somewhere) so I get the break I need and it helps me to not get mad with him becuse I don't feel like I'm 'just' a mummy IYSWIM?

Lesley - definitely have to arrange a meet up! I have said to Pinions if she ever wants to come round for coffee to just let me know, the same goes for you!

Oh and meant to say (sorry pg brain again!) at kids throwing things at you Bugmum...I'd have probably gone and walloped them

I've got some weenotions which are meant to have a terry pad folded in them but i can't get it to fit in...also I'm not sure if I need a wrap or not so I've been using one. I bought them off Octo and there were some sandy's too and she said some didn't need wraps but I can't work out which ones...the wetness seems to come through both

Afternoon ladies.

Bugmum that sounds auwuful - I'm not surprised you got upset!!!

CD - thanks for the offer of the nappies, the post office peeps are on strike today so I dont think they would get here for tomorrow - fear not though, I have been out and bought a wee pair of swim pants and some swim nappies... only thing is pants are 3-6 months and swim nappies are 15lb-20lb or something... hopefully they'll be ok, and fingers crossed C doesnt decide to have a poo... cos the way they are at the moment nothing would keep them in!!!

Thanks all for your nice words. Really, I have lots of support. I posted earlier with Danny snoozing quietly on a cushion on my lap, I've now managed to put him down in his moses basket a little while ago.

I can see lots of ways in which second time round (or third, even) is probably harder than first time, a lot of the help out there is directed at us first timers and many of us only have one demanding young creature to contend with (bearing in mind there are at least two sets of twins on this thread!)

lol at LeakyR re meeting up with Pinions. I have been exchanging emails with another mn person with an April baby about meeting Monday, and still hope I might get to see you on Sunday, nutty, weather and floods permitting.

bugmum, that's a scary story, hope those horrible kids think twice about throwing things from now on.

Someone mentioned a new thread, any suggestions for names?
SOKL, just looked at a previous thread of yours and realised I'd completely misunderstood one of your sentences, are you OK?

Definitely still hoping to meet up with you Elkie!

SOKL - sorry, I seemed to have missed half your post when I read it. So sorry you're so down at the moment.

You pleased to have the girls home now?

I hope the weather picks up - have you got anything planned for the holidays?

No ideas for new thread.....something as un-offensive as possible

Back now. G was a bit grumpy at massage, he suddenly seems very sensitive to other babies crying/noises. Little boy next to us was squealing with delight at his massage, but every time he squealed G started crying. Hoping he'll have a nice big sleep now we're home.

and at horible kids throwing things. I used to teach secondary school French, stories like that remind me why I gave it up.

G grizzling. So much for nice long sleep

leaky, sorry G did enjoy the baby massage
I'm going in a couple of weeks, how big a problem was the nappy off rule?

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not did, sorry