JUNE 07...Starting thread!

[nannyjo]

Well i think i was the frist to 'pop' from the due in june thread so i thought it was about time we started the post-natal thread.

DS2 is 2 weeks on monday I had him 4 weeks early due to induction for OC. Everything is going really well and i think things are finally starting to settle down (i hope i haven't just spoken too soon!!)

He is really suffering with colic though and were getting about 4 hours sleep a night on average and with a 2.5 year old there is no chance of catching up in the day, but i shouldn't complain as i'm lucky to have got two wonderful boys. Thats it now NO MORE!!!!!9smile0

I know a few other june mums have had their babies so it would be lovely to hear from you to see how you are all getting on (when you get the chance )

hello,
i'm sorry for being so infrequent on here but we have been having MAJOR computer problems in our house - feel like a bit of an outsider now as i've been gone for so long!!
Foxy has been keeping me updated via text on all the exciting news and i guess this thread will get pretty busy soon!
things are going well in our house of 5 now i am recovering from mastitis and thrush (aaawwwyafucker) slowly but surely - Bumper i TOTALLY sympathise on the painful feeding, right now i can only feed lying down from my left side due to an unhealing crack but can now sit up when feeding on the right yippee.
Right off to see if anyone is about for a chat.....unless there is anyone here

Aaargh! Thought my hormones had settled down, but I've just spent 20 minutes in tears feeling very miserable and frustrated (and guilty) because Matthew will not stop feeding at all today. The guilt is for my DD as she is getting so little of my attention as I've permanently got her brother attached to my boob...
Anyone else feeling rather shit today?

Hello! Just a quickie! LO is being a bit vomity but has settled, just waiting to give him a bath.

Thanks Daisy - you know you are earning yourself a reputation as a Klaw/Lulumama stand in!! You have been very supportive and helpful
I think it's wonderful your LO is sleeping so well and that this time round seems much better for you. I don't know what happened before but I have picked up that things were hard, I am glad that now you are enjoying yourself.

Derlor you poor thing, I am having pains as it without having to deal with thrush/mastitis. Why we do it eh.

I am off to try and get to grips with being a mother. Looking forward to everyone joining PN!

oh hello......anyone still here??

Hi Derlor, I am here for the minute DS has let me escape

hi fraggle - i had a really shit couple of days last week as well. - it will pass but just have a good cry, it certainly made me feel better xxx

I bet you had a couple of bad days - Thrush AND mastisis - Ouch! Hope it is much, much better now.

yes thankfully MUCH better. sorry to run off but ds, dd1 just home from Shrek and dd2 just wakening up!!! so much for my peace and quiet. take care and i'll try to check back on you soon xx

rf....emily did this yesterday evening....she fed for more than 5 hours and only slept about an hour. every time i tried to move her she'd go off again. i was nearly in tears and starting to panic, but apparently its normal to go through a growth spurt at this stage and they need to up your supply. the upside of it was how long she slept!

I can't keep up with who is where.....i thought i was on the pn thread earlier...but noooo

Oh lordy, we have had a day. Been to A&E as DD kept turned blue when feeding 3 times. Fucking scary as hell. Doesn't sem to be anything wrong though. Paeds reckon reflux and have given us gaviscon. Had a really good long feed at 10.30 now she won't settle and has been wailing nearly non stop for 3 hours, wind or something, I don't know.

DH is being great, but I feel like the worst mother in the world as I don't have this need to hold her all the time and am leaving him to try and pacify her. I don't know why, I'm just so exhausted and having such anxiety over the feeding and really sore that I just think if I hold her she'll want to feed. Plus with my efforts to suffocate her and her blue I deserve the title of Worst Mother in The Whole World.

Please tell me it gets easier?

Sorry for being so needy and not responding to everyone elses posts...

Why won't she sleep?! Anyone know any lullabies?!

Help, she hasn't slept for longer than half an hour in the past 12 hours. She's fed as much as she wants but seems to be really windy. She won't settle. I haven't slept for 3 hundred million years and have had enough now.

Been giving her infant gaviscon after feeds since our trip to a&e. Could she have colic? What can I do? I'm manic and exhausted.

Bumper, DS was like that the first night, we didn't sleep for HOURS and he refused to settle. I have no idea if it's the same thing but Mum was here and within minutes said he was a windy baby. We have to burp him A LOT.

Now we burp him every 10ml he drinks, afterwards feeding, if he makes a peep, after changing (he cries and takes in wind), and now he is much more settled. I have no idea if it will help you but it can't hurt.

Sometimes it can take us 10 minutes of hard patting to get the burp out but if we don't he pukes, cries, frets all over the place. Maybe similar problem for you - good luck x

Thanks TA, will keep persevering with the winding. It's annoying as I though BF babies didn't need winding.

How are you feeling? God I'm a wreck. I haven't slept longer than 2 hours since labour, I don't think I've even physically recovered from that yet - let alone all of this on top!

Hope you and baby Sullivan are doing ok.

Hmm I thought that BF babies needed LESS winding but I am no expert. Maybe Daisy will be around soon, she's excellent with this sort of thing, or you can always call your MW?

I don't know if I can be of any help at all but you are not alone! Sulli was awful on our first night, once we got the hang of the fact that every time he opened his mouth he'd take in air and needed winding, he's been good.

We now just do it 'just in case'.

I really feel for you Bumper, my labour was bloody awful, I am still pretty much bedridden but I don't want to miss out so am forcing myself through it. Also v v tired but trying hard to get into some sort of workable routine before DH goes back to work. Labour, childbirth, BFing for those that do it, it's awfully hard. If you are the same as me you will feel like you have been hit by a truck!

Stay positive Bumper, I think this (motherhood) is the hardest thing we have ever needed to come to grips with and of course it's going to be awful and tiresome - just don't be proud, grab whatever help (and sleep!) you can, we're all here for you as well xx

Morning Bumper and TA!
Sorry your both having a hard time - hang on in there!!
I BF my DD and she still needed winding - I sort of rocked her back and forwards and it used to come out when she was "sitting".
Also have you checked their temperatures - too hot or too cold can make them cry ?
This time I might also try swaddling - thats supposed to calm them as they're used to being bunched up inside of us and feeling "tight".

Off to have a bacon sarnie - will be lurking later!!

Morning all, just passing thought I'd stick my head and my oar in and say hi.

Bumper, I'm so sorry to hear that you are finding it hard, but that is absolutely normal! First time especially, but even 3rd and 4th time its still the unknown! Every baby is an individual, and we just don't know what we are going to get.

If I can offer my experience, I feed then hand over to DP, he's in charge of winding. (He can sit on his arse for hours, I can't and lack any patience). It can take 20/30 mins sometimes, even for bf babies. If you make sure they are lying straight for feeding it helps I think. Watch what you eat too, the most unsuspecting things can trigger wind.

They are getting used to being out here, just as we are getting used to them. If I'm sitting up in the dead of night with one I kind of like it - just me and bub. What is she sleeping in? Do you let her sleep in your arms or put her down? I know you're not meant to, but I'll sleep on the sofa holding mine all night rather than try to go to bed in the early days.

I hope this helps. xx

What did you go and mention a bacon sarnie for? Morning JBM!!!

Yes, swaddling, top tip JBM - big fan myself too. Just got a swaddling blanket from M'care to try. Totally agree that they like to be snug and bound up rather than flailing around!

What's better for baby dry skin (face and hands)? Olive oil or Baby oil? I hear different things...

Olive oil, or grapeseed because it doesn't smell.

Everytime I smell warm olive oil I think of my babies.

How are you doing TA?

bumper.....(((((((((((((big hugs))))))))))) I really feel for you as I had this with DS and it's really difficult, but it will get easier. You are not the worst mother in the world, you're the best mother for your baby. You're exhausted and sore and confused and worried in equal measure and that can be trying alone without chucking a squacking baby into the mix. The turning blue must have been scary, and I know this might seem obvious, and forgive me for asking, but are her nostrils clear, either of your boob when feeding or not bunged up? DD gets really stuffy (something to do with them getting used to our atmosphere) and she manages to sneeze it out usually, but I've had to clear her nose a couple of times.

can either DH or your mum wrap her up and take her for a drive in the car...both you and her will sleep, and i think that's what you need most of all at the moment. is your milk in yet...can you express and dh can feed her with a teaspoon or syringe to give you a break?

I sent you a text earlier....please call me, sweets.

sorry...hi to everyone else!! TA sounds like things are getting a little easier for you?

Bumper....have you tried infacol? it really worked for DS and I've been using it with DD as well. You give it before a feed.

oh Bumper poor you - how scary for you to have DD turning blue. Have you checked that she is managing to breathe through her nose while you are feeding her? I sometimes have to hold my boob a bit to ensure DD can breathe properly, difficuly when you are so tired i know but it can help. also try different positions for feeding, like lying down. this stage is such a difficult learning curve i really feel for you and as Foxy said ALL babies are different. I was beating myself up about how much i've been struggling, 3rd baby and i'm a bloody HV but all of us just have to take time to get to know our new wee babies, regardless of "experience". you are not a bad mother, please don't feel like that you are just getting to know each other that is all
have you tried giving infacol prior to feeding - it really helps with wind problems and is suitable from birth. Abbie gets it all the time as she was struggling to burp and it has made a real difference.
Hope this helps and if there is anything wlse we can do please just ask, we are ALL here to support you sweetie xxx

ROFL Daisy - we are obviously singing off EXACTLY the same sheet!!!