March 2017 (2)

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Second thread!

I wonder if those routines work best for formula fed babies.

DS doesn't nap for 60-90 minutes each time. He often naps for about 35 minutes, sometimes even less. Lately he's been having a longer nap (1.5-2 hours) in the afternoon, but he is still only napping for short periods earlier in the day.

We are definitely better at recognising sleep cues than we were in the beginning, but it's not always easy to get him sleep, so I've bought the Gentle Sleep Book and would like to see if we can follow the advice. Not sure whether/when to start just yet though as we're going away next week which will probably disrupt DS's sleep. (We've been away with him twice so far and each time his sleep got worse, more night wakings and less daytime sleep )

Indeed every baby is different

4hr would be

7 feed
930 sleep 60:90mins
11 feed
1-3 sleep
3 feed
20 min short nap 5ish
6 bath
7 feed

Most babies I've looked after like 4hrs at 12/16w but dd doesn't

Typical

But happier on 3hr. 3x hr sleep and sleeps thro

It's what suits your baby

Aww it's so lovely isn't it Hugh! I'll admit we haven't had much tummy time at all... with the reflux I've been focusing more on keeping him upright. I have put him on my knee a few times on his tummy and he seems ok. I should really encourage it though shouldn't I.....

@namechange. No. I've used that routine for ebf and once boobs used to supply and demand around 3/4w I put to a 2.5hr routine then 3

As long as regular the. Supply won't be effected

And dd doesn't like tummy time

She's too nosey 😂

Am ranting....At my MILs today visiting, I said I would pop round from time to time so she could spend time with DD while I'm on MAT leave. She felt a bit left out as my DM will be watching DD for a day a week once I go back to work and MIL isn't able enough to watch her. Anyway said i would visit today as i didn't last week (which I've been given the guilt trip for) just given DD a feed she only had half which is fine as she's had quite a bit today. Passed her back to MIL and instantly she starts bouncing her and "row row row the boating" as predicted DD ended up spitting up all down her front. She's usually good a keeping it down. So now am irritated as she only had half a feed to begin with. It always happens at MILs house no matter how many times I say just let her settle a min.

End of rant. I know it's nothing major but I really make the effort to come even though I know she won't get her normal naps (MIL will wake her! ) or feeds

That's really annoying carolann

namechange DD is very similar day to day as your dc and is ebf. She cat naps more than long naps in the daytime.

Blonde DD is also too curious for tummy time. I get the impression she should be doing more but not quite sure why!

Oh no carolann.. does she not realise it's her bouncing which is causing dd to spew??

I just assumed tummy time was in preparation for them crawling (am I getting ahead of myself?) strengthening their abdominal muscles etc...

100years
Thank you, that's reassuring to know

DS has been really fighting sleep lately. Today was particularly bad He's clearly tired but won't sleep. If we do eventually manage to get him to sleep he wakes up too soon and is still tired. Before now the pushchair or car worked quite well but not lately, he has been screaming in the car and I'm dreading a long journey we have to do at the weekend Tried putting him in the carrier this morning as I get tired of carrying/rocking him (he's too darn heavy!) and he kept yawning but didn't actually sleep. The problem is that he gets overtired and unhappy, and I don't get much of a break. It's exhausting!

@carolann. How annoying. I would have to say something

No one used to go on about tummytime years ago. And all babies crawled no problem

No way does dd get 20m a day. Some days nothing as she really doesn't like it

Much happier in doughnut - bouncer or propped up with pillow

She's desperate to sit up bless her

Hi guys just catching up ! I never heard of tummy time with my ten year old ! This DD HATES it she cries on her tummy . She likes being on her back or sitting in things . She has learnt to shuffle places on her back now which is hilarious!
Also Name we are having sleep fighting issues and it doesn't help I always have to wake her for morning and afternoon school run .

Also the past 2/3 weeks DD (who slept through for at least 6 weeks ) has been waking for a feed again between 2-4am and then not going back to sleep properly for hours . It's joyful honestly 😂.

I would drop hints but feel funny about saying something direct. Like today I planned on leaving by 3:30 as DD would go down for her afternoon nap then so thought she could start it in the car, said "does nana want another quick cuddle before we go" 5 mins before and she started rocking her to sleep in her! Like if she feel asleep it would make me stat longer

DD loves tummy time but will let me know when she wants to stop.

She's started to be fussy on how she goes down to sleep as well, she wants some contact but doesn't want to be held like she gets too hot or something. Mostly she just wants a finger to hold. Awww

Carol
You just have to say it, be polite but clear: "please don't bounce her just after a feed, it makes her sick"
As long as you say it in a neutral/light tone I'm sure it won't be badly received. And if it is, so what!

I'm with you on that Hugh ! Oh Carol she is so bloody cute x

@morherofa - maybe time to wean if was sleeping Thro and now waking up

How old is dd?

Dd is 17w tom and 4mths on 28th. Will prob start weaning then as she is always watching and drooling when we eat ,bless her

Weaning times have changed so much in 25yrs. Was 3mth. Then 4 then 6 the. Back to 3/4 and now 6 again

I think use your common sense - if have good head control - starting to wake at night and watches you with food it's time to start

My DD was 4 month yesterday, should I be letting her try a few things? FTM so kinda been going off what the HV says a lot

The advice at the moment is milk exclusively until six months but if necessary baby can wean from 17 weeks. I think the 6 month thing is to do with most babies' tummies not being sufficiently developed/matured until then. I'm going to stick to that for now as I have a digestive disorder and don't want to risk anything with DD, just in case, but I do think it is also an individual thing and I'm sure you know your baby best. For instance, I've been told that when your baby starts reaching for food, watching you and opening their mouth when you're eating, it's generally a reliable sign that your baby is ready to start with weaning. However, I've also been told that up till 12 months milk (formula or bm) should still provide the majority of their calories.

I agree with 100, I think it's to do with their digestive system not being properly developed until 6 months. Also they are supposed to be able to sit unaided aren't they - not just have good head control. DS is 4 1/2 months and wants to sit all the time but still needs a bit of support.

I don't think waking more at night has anything to do with needing solid food or being ready for it, I thought it was just the 4 month sleep regression... and some babies who are on solids still wake at night don't they?

Defo hit the 4 month sleep regression here, fights sleep ridiculously. Yesterday he was up for 3 hours and everytime I put him down and walked away he screamed, when I went back he would be beaming as soon as he saw me and giggling. Repeat literally 10 times until I gave up and got him up again. Feel like we are falling into bad habits but I'm trying to increase contact , rubbing head or letting him play with my hand rather than holding him to sleep. Hope we get through it !

Hugh
"their REM cycles are changing, which makes it harder for them to drop off"
Interesting. That might explain why DS has been fighting daytime naps so much.

Just goes to show how every LO is different. DD has 3 naps a day morning at 8:30 for 2 hours then 30-45 mins at 1ish then afternoon nap at 3 for 2 hours. She still wakes for a feed during the night can be as early as 2am or late as 4am. I have noticed she is going down a lot easier these day.

We need to start her in her cot soon, she's running out of spaces in her Moses, she whacks her arms around while she sleeps so wakes herself when she hits the walls of the basket

Yeah baba is the same here with sleep at the mo and she is 4.5 months. She tends to sleep 5 hours before waking for a feed in the night then will wake again a couple hours later. Naps are a battle, too curious although the rem thing sounds very interesting and could explain a lot for us.

hugh DD has a toy with blanket comforter and I only let her have it whilst we watch over her as I have the same concerns over smothering. So once she's a asleep we take it off her but when she's a bit older and I've seen her move things away from her face I will leave it with her - at the moment if she pulls anything over her she just lies really still under it like she's not quite sure what's happened