Jan '07 part 4: all we can talk about is poo, wind, sleep and bogeys...so how come we clocked up 500 messages in a fortnight?!

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I'd moan more but ds2 is having a very off day!

not my finest hour

oh UD hope things sort themselves out it isnt as bad as you think and I do think you'll be able to use the hormone/sleep thing to your advantage. Have you decided what you are going to do next re phone her, how about speakng to fil if he is more reasonable. I really cant see that she would cut you out of her life especially Zac she was probably reacting in shock.

How are you feeling this morning you must focus on staying positive for yourself and Zac and not think about cutting

oh UD hope things sort themselves out it isnt as bad as you think and I do think you'll be able to use the hormone/sleep thing to your advantage. Have you decided what you are going to do next re phone her, how about speakng to fil if he is more reasonable. I really cant see that she would cut you out of her life especially Zac she was probably reacting in shock.

How are you feeling this morning you must focus on staying positive for yourself and Zac and not think about cutting

APTAMIL POSSE - shimmer, pcf and wilkie how were your night????? Is wilkie going to be eating her own head today?

Hattie slep 6.45pm to 6.15am with dreamfeed at 10pm starting to feel human again

was your night [blsh][blush}

107 messages in one evening. I think that must be a record. Ok, cup of tea in hand, let's try and catch up....

Oh no sooo many messages lol, will try and catch up later on. Hope you're all well.

UD - how are you this morning? I am so for you. Please DO NOT beat yourself up about it. I don't think you're a bad person at all and we all make mistakes. It's so easy to do. There was some good advice on the thread. Write to your MIL to apologise, and write again if need be - I don't think you need any excuses but just be sincere in your apology. I hope she understands just how stressful life with a newborn can be. I can't believe she really would want to cut DH and Z out of her life, despite her bizarre past behaviour. Cutting off nose to spite face etc. DH must understand where you were coming from, and be there to support you. He should also help you to repair the relationship with your MIL. Perhaps he could talk to your FIL. He really needs to be there for you now.
You are lovely and don't tell yourself anything different. Have a happy day . We're all here for you.

EAH - good night Do you think we'll be haunted by a headless Wilkie? Hope hungry milk did the business for all you who tried it. Shimmer - we're on SMA so please let me know if the hungry stuff worked for you.

Trixy - I don't think I've seen Labyrinth. I assume it's MUCH better than Grease 2 (Wilkie/Lizz)!

UD - I really don't think what you wrote was THAT bad. Yes you feel bad about it but I'm sure mil will come round. Hormones and having a new baby can make you feel and act very differently, the lack of sleep alone can make you feel like another person. Don't beat yourself up over it anymore. Also mil has no reason not to see dh or ds over this and is being petty imo. You've apologised and I don't think there's much more you can do. From what you've said about her not speaking to other family members for years, she will end up a lonely old woman.

Oh UD, nightmare. She sounds a royal PITA but I realise that this needs sorting out. I would give it a week, maybe send some flowers and then in time she will mellow. I personally would try and speak to her myself. You said that she told DH she wouldn't read the email? What did he say to her when he called to tell her you had sent it?

On a different note, maybe she needed to hear it?? Not the nicest way admittedly but in the long term it may actually be beneficial (Wilkie strains to see but is certain there may be a silver lining around the cloud).

If it's any consolation, my best friend sent a text rant about me to me by accident instead of her hubbie. I hadn't even seen/read it, she came round, explained what she had done, I gave her the phone and she deleted it. TBH I laughed when she told me cos it is everyone's worst nightmare and I know that I sometimes text in the heat of the moment things that I really don't mean.

Please don't cut yourself, honestly, in time you will look back and laugh.

My head is still intact!!!!!!

He didn't sleep through completely but can I say EAH that I want to come round to your house and cover you in big wet sloppy kisses. He slept from 7.15pm - 6.45am with one feed at 2.30am. I LOVE HUNGRY BABY MILK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UD - what a horrible night you must have had, how are you this morning? I agree with what everyone else has said, she is a PITA and frankly I'm blooming impressed by your restraint, your email could have said so much worse! It is awful that it's happened, and she will be hurt (as you are hurting too), but if she really cuts her family out of her life over something like this then it really only confirms what a silly woman she is. I can't believe she would do that to her son and grandson, rather than take a look at herself and think maybe the both of you need to work on your relationship. As everyone on your thread said, hormones and exhaustion are pretty good reasons for this to have happened, don't hate yourself, please

Wilkie - glad your head is still attached, though I was looking forward to using that thread title

Aha!!!
I have uploaded some pictures - it was me being computer illiterate, surprise surprise! I will have to get the camera out today and snap some more now I've figured it out!!

hurrah for J hopefully another week or two you can starter tweaking his 2.30 feed as well

PCF/Shimmer can you please come and report in your success stories about hungry baby milk so I can go and polish my halo (actually should be polishing my house rather than be on here)

OK I am pissed off now.

I suggested to dh last night that, since I'm going to be on my own with dses until friday night now, he might like to take ds2 last night and only bring him in for feeds to let me get some sleep in. After grousing he did agree.

But then ds1 woke up before 6am.

So I went and re-settled him. Then I ended up back with ds2, and have been ever since.

ds1 is still asleep. At 8.30!!

And I'm still here with ds2.

And dh is still in bed asleep

So much for getting the sleep in!

My dh has just left for Austria for 2 nights now For work, really didn't want him to go with Ethan so young (10 weeks tomorrow) and also with dd 5 and ds1 3. Has been causing us problems for a while now. God the nights are going to be a nightmare on my own

2happy and jodie anyone near you that can help?

Jodie.

And tell me, will your dh's work trip away be anything like my dh's work trip away - involving lots of beer??

Oh for fucking fuckity fuck's sake

I've just gone into the kitchen to find that dh couldn't even bother his arse to put the supper leftovers in the fridge last night. That was supposed to be left for me to re-heat for ds1 to save me from trying to cook for him when on my own with the boys.

Men!

Is it really wrong to have malteser's for breakfast??

EandH - yes I'm lucky enough to have parents nearby and my Mum's off work for a couple of weeks. She's normlly out on a thursday, but I think I may be begging favours off her...

Meant to say - my DH is resitting his exam at 10.30am - soooooo nervous!!!

2happy and Jodie - that's crap, not fair!

Wilkie yeah well done im so pleased for you.
I might try hungry baby milk in laurens 4 pm feed and then the one before bed see if it works better than last time .
She wasnt bad last night she went to bed 8:15 woke at 2:30 then at 6:15.
I sympathise with all the ladies who dh are away mine has been away for 2 weeks he was just back saturday night then went again on mothers day he is in birmingham this week in a hotel having plenty of booze and nice meals and worst of all having uninterupted sleep

Wilks wht exam is that ?