November 2014 - the one where they test boundaries.

[MrsAukerman]

New thread ladies. Jump on board.

Oh wow eastmids that's very medical, the teacher might faint seeing all the details Anyway I hope you get maximum points for the homework!

DD has surprised everyone with the potty training. She had an accident first thing in the morning on Monday (even shoes were full of wee) but since then she hasn't had any accidents in the nursery. On Wednesday pickup I was told that she didn't even ask the staff to go to the loo, she was just herself going to the toilet in their room, dropping the pants and sitting on the potty. She has however had an accident a day at home. Twice she peed herself because of laughing, all the good fun... We are due to fly in ten days, I don't think I will risk her going without nappy or at least pull-ups through the airport and flight. Too many rules and restrictions and I will be flying on my own with her. Should be fun...

Had parents eve tonight teacher was impressed with homework! Ds1 is settling in well to yr3 remains quiet but hardworking, kind and helpful. So all good.

So we've cracked and are going to order a groclock today!

DS sleeps like a rock these days but is up at 6.15 like clockwork. I'm knackered! Does anyone have one already?

He has entered the "never shuts up" phase. Omg he just rabbits and rabbits! And repeats it until you acknowledge it!

"It's not raining...it's not raining Mammy....it's not raining outside....it's not raining.....it's not raining....it's not raining Mammy.....it's not raining...."

Me: "NO ITS NOT RAINING! OH MY GOD!"

Very impressive homework eastmids Last weekend DD1 had to transform a cardboard box into a model of a house from the Great Fire of London. My suggestion of burning the box was not appreciated! DD2 got a smaller box and announced she was making Peppa and George's house!
It was photo day at nursery today, but at the weekend she tripped over nothing and bumped and grazed her face by her eye on a corner so it won't be such a great photo.

Yes to repeating same thing until we acknowledge her Anna! I was reading an article about dementia and they said the first signs are repeatedly saying something and I was "yes, that's my DD!"

There is also "Mummy, can you ...." way of bossing me around endlessly. Can you book, can you milk, can you orange juice whenever I appear in sight. On Monday evening I was making dinner while she was sat watching cartoons at the dining table. I walked past and she started "mummy, can you" and I straight away said a No. she didn't even bother to finish the phrase. I think she has sussed that we respond well to polite requests, so she has taken to order us around in a very polite manner.

Hi all just back from an amazing week in turkey hot every day lots chilling by pool and a boat trip both boys swam in sea which !meant I had to (I don't do sea swimming!)

Back to reality of cold weather, washing and oh our main TV has decided to break today!

eastmids that sounds amazing!

The homework, oh my goodness. I've told DP that I am doing what my mumsnet friend is doing and only doing the essentials!

Is anyone doing trick or treat with their DC's? Last year DP took her 'pumpkin spotting' which I think they might do again.

Not so good news over here, I went for an early scan on Friday when I should have been 8 weeks but the baby had stopped growing at 5 weeks so now I'm waiting to see if I miscarry naturally or need it to be medically managed, have another scan booked for next Friday to confirm. It was pretty much the worst day of my life but I think I'm already getting my head round it despite being terribly sad. We have a busy few weeks coming up so hopefully that will take my mind off things. We haven't decided if we'll try again yet. Feel very grateful for DD right now.

So sorry to hear it ladydolly... know exactly how you feel, I had a miscarriage at 11,5 was few months before getting pregnant with DD. Looking back it was about 6wks when all the sickness stopped, probably because of that. Look after yourself, I hope you don’t need any medical interventions and it happens on its own. I do think that a busy week at work was what saved me, although I still did the futile thing of trying to understand why exactly it happened. Going over the wrong things I did before the positive test (going in sauna, carrying 30kg luggage over a railway bridge and so on and on).

Sorry to hear that ladydolly a loss is never easy no matter how many weeks a baby that's wanted doesn't make it easy if early or late... Hope your next few weeks help you through a tricky time.

I didn't have ds2 til ds1 had just turned 4 and started school, no idea how old you are but you have time still should you decide to wait before trying again.

@strawberry I'm sorry you've been through it too. I wouldn't wish it on anyone and certainly not someone without dc's.

Thankyou @eastmids I'm 38 so we don't have endless time and part of me wonders if it's my age that was the problem - because I'm doing just as you said and trying to figure out what caused it. The hot bath, the cold I had that week.

We've also had an airbnb lodger for 6 weeks who's been MIA the last 2 weeks, turns out she went home and found out she's got a parasitic infection and advised by the environmental health not to return to work until she's 48 hours clear of symptoms and medication. It's a month incubation period... so, could well have a plague on the house as well!! It never rains but it pours!

On a brighter note DD has been lovely the last few weeks, and hilarious. This morning we drove through our town past world famous landscapes and I said 'isn't it beautiful with all the leaves on the ground' she replied 'yes... not bad at all'
Not bad at all! She sounded like an old man!!

ladydolly so sorry to hear your news. Take care of yourself.

We are sending DDs to my parents for a couple of days on Friday. We were going to go away but can't afford to but DDs still wanted to go. That means they will miss trick or treating. Round here it is semi-organised that kids from a few streets go round together with parents on the weekend so one huge group comes at once rather than having to answer the door repeatedly all weekend. We have never joined in, because I didn't think were old enough and they didn't need hundreds of sweets. Last year we avoided it as we were at a birthday party, but DD1 will be upset when she discovers she is missing it again as well as a school friend's Halloween party that we didn't know about until Friday. Sending them to my parents also means we can actually appreciate the extra hour of sleep when the clocks go back, which I hadn't realised when I arranged it 🙂
It's DD2's birthday on Thursday! Can't believe she will be 3.

ladydolly you are at a very good age to have another baby, I was 38 when DD was born. Despite what happened shortly before, I got pregnant on the first cycle afterwards and had a very good pregnancy, never really felt like a hard work. With all the scare mongering about women after 35, when something like this happens you can’t help thinking it could be all down to the age. But there are so many examples of the opposite around.

That’s unfortunate about the infestation. Is there anything you can do now to avoid any of it actually incubating? This kind of thing they never mention on the Airbnb adverts...

Not bad at all! it’s amazing when they suddenly say something hilarious.

You're right strawberry I need some perspective. It took us 5 months to get pg with this one so that was worrying me too, I had accupuncture in the end but not sure that had anything to do with the 'success', of course I'm also worrying if I should have had more sessions!

I think I might call the doc tomorrow and see... I had dd off with me today with a cold/temp. Quite grateful for the company really.

Massive (((((hugs))))) for you ladydolly, how horrendous for you both.

I was actually older than you before I had any children at all. And now I have two. Took shitloads of ovulation sticks and massive daily doses of vitamin b6 mind you. I was so deficient in progesterone that I had to use those horrible progesterone suppositories for the first 10 weeks.

All worth it, but it was all so stressful that I got antenatal depression the last time. I've also started on anti-ds for post natal depression at last. The first few weeks were rough with the side effects but I am feeling the benefit now.

This baby lark is a really grim rollercoaster at times, isn't it? You wonder why the fuck we put ourselves through it. But then they say something hilarious and it's brilliant.

It's my birthday today. We have been to see a small child friendly theatre show and had lunch out. Now I am supervising DDs playing with play-doh, and, as far as I know, DH has gone to bed. He was up until 1am for a work deadline, but DD2 woke me up about 5 times last night for no apparent reason. I am tired too.

To explain DD's rather frustrating idiosyncrasies, I will need to use names. Let's pretend DD1 is called Emily and DD2 is called Lucy. They will be playing a game together and I will say "come on Lucy, let's brush teeth" or whatever I want her to do. She will shout "I not Lucy, I mummy" or grandma or whoever she is the game and refuse to do anything unless I address her by whatever her 'name' is at that moment. I will then try asking DD1 to do something e.g "Emily put your pyjamas on please" and DD2 will shout "that's not Emily, that's baby" or shoplady or whoever. Somehow I am supposed to know and remember who they are at any given moment or she is very cross. It would be funny if it wasn't so annoying though.
She has also taken to copying what DD1 is saying when they are playing together, which causes much upset and crying from DD1.

Happy trade you for the current toilet humour in my house and all my fault but currently funny to say "cacked your pants" ! I forgot I have two parrots for children

Thanks anna, you're right of course. We said we wouldn't try again if this didn't work out but I'm pretty sure I don't mean that now.

Ohhhh I hear you on the potty mouths. I can't believe how annoying it is to be called a 'stinky bum bum'.

DD and I spent last night and half of today (her birthday) in hospital with a chest infection. That wasn't the plan. She was sent home from nursery yesterday after apparently becoming very unwell in the space of 20mins. They advised DH to take her to a doctor so he went to the walk in centre round the corner from nursery who called an ambulance to take her to A&E. several nebulisers, inhalers, steroids and antibiotics later, they let her come home. There goes our child-free weekend. I got almost no sleep last night, the house is a tip and my mum just announced she will come here tomorrow instead. DD is tired and miserable too and I have to give her inhaler every 4 hours overnight. she quite enjoyed her hospital birthday though. She did some sticking with glue and stickers, they got her a cake and a lovely present. At least we weren't admitted to the ward I work on.

Oh happy I hope she feels better soon and perhaps she can have a birthday day when she is feeling better. As you know as quick as they go downhill they bounce back.

eastmids that is true. This morning she was running about the house shouting, and my mum commented that she didn't look ill at all. It is taking me longer to recover from the sleepless night, the night of getting up every 4 hours to give her inhaler, and the guilt of not being there when she needed me (I was in town with DD1 on Wednesday afternoon and DH phoned me repeatedly from the walk-in centre, but I must have been somewhere with no phone signal because my phone never rang) even though I got to A&E before her because the ambulance had to get to the city centre in rush hour and I just got a taxi for less than 5 minutes. She was role playing hospitals with cuddly toys earlier, giving them inhaler and putting them into bed. She didn't get to go and stay with my parents this weekend, DD1 has gone on her own, so I might take her out somewhere tomorrow if the weather is nice.

Is anyone unprepared and would like to know what the 3 year old who has already got everything liked as a birthday present?

happy she won't even remember it all happening in a few months :) Glad she recovered quickly though, amazing how they bounce back.

Yes please share!! I've bought DD one of those rugs that have a car track on, a nice black and white one that isn't too offensive on the eye!

2nd scan to confirm the miscarriage this morning which was fine, I wanted surgical management but they don't have a consultant so I had to ring round all the local hospitals to try and find one and booked in for Friday in a town an hour away. I have private healthcare but that was even worse, I again had to call around only to be told that private healthcare doesn't really work for emergency cases and it would be a few weeks before they could help me. It was exhausting!

Dp's 40th birthday party tomorrow night, he loves a party, I expect he will go all night and I will be home in bed by 10!

Lady that's really shit just added crap at a terrible time.

Wedding anniversary today - 11yrs!

Took boys to church superhero ("not Halloween") party this Eve they had good time.

Ds1 has a friend party/trick treating on Tues unsure if to take ds2 had no choice last yr as was a Mon but this yr he is at nursery n DH could collect him

ladydolly that's shit that you had to do all the ringing round to sort everything out when surely that was the last thing you wanted to do. Hope you are enjoying the party.

DD seemed genuinely excited by all her presents. We got her a Peppa Pig camper van and park play set, a small Duplo set and a sticker book. I also got her a top that I completely forgot about and didn't tell DH to wrap while we were in hospital, and tickets to the Peppa Pig live theatre show next weekend which I also haven't remembered to give her but I don't think she would understand the meaning of the bits of paper anyway.
DD1 wanted to give her a Minnie Mouse play set which came with a plastic figure similar to one DD2 keeps taking from her, but it is a flimsy piece of plastic that keeps coming apart and comes with loads of tiny plastic accessories that will be lost soon.
She loves her new trampoline, and wanted to be straight outside bouncing on it soon after getting back from the hospital.
She also got Peppa Pig dominoes and an animal lotto game which we have played many many times already
My parents bought this www.tesco.com/direct/carousel-wooden-enchanting-treehouse/669-6558.prd?source=others which is nice though the fairy characters that came with it have been evicted by Peppa Pig characters
She also had a moana doll who she didn't really recognise, some books and dresses

Hi everyone.

lady I'm so sorry to hear your news, that's gutting for you. I think often there's no 'reason'...I had a mc earlier this year at 33 (actually I went directly into this pregnancy without a period after it). Same gestation, 8 weeks. I started bleeding but they couldn't fit me in for a scan for like 4 days at which point it was all pretty much over. There isn't really a script for what you're supposed to do is there?
Make sure you get lots of rest, I felt unbelievably tired while it was happening and for about 2 weeks after.

east amazing homework! And happy I feel you on the homework situation though it sounds like both of your kids get quite a lot. DD1 is in the equivalent of Year 1 and it's just bits of colouring and writing/reading. We do it in the afternoon after I've picked them both up (I work pt). DD2 can be quite naughty and tries to scribble on her homework and generally interfere. Sometimes they make a deal where DD2 is allowed hand DD1 her colours one by one or else DD2 occasionally does her own colouring. But a lot of the time they just fight.

DD2 is getting some lego and lego bases and DVDs for her birthday and we still need to get her a book and a colouring book that she has requested. We're really not going nuts because her bday is halloween and there is a fuckload of shite circulating anyway!

strawberry great work on the potty training - that Thomas comment had me laughing.

Hi to everyone else!

Oh lady sorry to hear your news. I hope things have progressed now. I felt 'lucky' with mine earlier in the year in that it wasn't missed and it all just happened naturally. It is different when we've already got one child. Somehow dulls the pain in a way. My SIL and Bro had a similar experience to you recently, she is 42 and it was from an IVF cycle with only one egg produced. Early scan at 8 weeks showed not progressing. Very sad but I know their DD is bringing them joy. They always were adamant she'd be an only child but they're desperate to have a sibling for her now.

Twins growing well here, 27 weeks now and suddenly the extra physical demands on my body have really hit me. DD is very clingy and cuddly and it is just so knackering. I've got a weekend away today and I'm so grateful just to get away from her constantly grabbing hands for a bit and have a proper night's sleep, she's waking up a lot at the moment which is just even more exhausting esp as Daddy is just not good enough at 3am (well he will have to be for the next two nights!). But still! lots of hilarious times like you've all been sharing. It is such a funny age.

We are trying to get rid of the dummy at the moment with no success! Trying the more gentle approach so far and she will talk your ear off about the dummy fairy but no actual progress made in 3m. She's been promised a pink bike which she asked for, but I just think she loves her dummy more, she seems to have no real motivation. On her birthday we are planning to basically give her the bike with a whole fairy palaver and then hope she loves it so much she doesn't want to get the dummies back.
I am scared it will just make nighttimes even worse though and we may regret doing it!!! Figure we've got to have a proper try though before the babies come.

Oh also nursery changed how they are offering the free hours which has basically shafted us. I would be paying to work for the first couple of years after I went back, so I might be quitting. Bit gutted about that, my job is pretty boring and not great pay or anythingbut very flexible good pension etc and made me feel a bit validated and using my academic qualifications. I just need to get my head round it i think. Always thought I'd want to be a SAHM but after DD was born realised I really need time to myself. Hope it all works out.

Hope everyone else is ok. Can't believe these terrors are going to be 3!!! Happy birthday to DD2 Happy already!