November 2014 - the one where they test boundaries.

[MrsAukerman]

New thread ladies. Jump on board.

happy don't worry about missing the boat, she's still really little! You really have to make sure you have a clear run at it (in terms of what's going on in work/ house) and you haven't had that. In our nursery they discourage starting before two and a half.

Also, I sometimes feel that we went too early with DD1. She was 2.2 and although it worked straight away, she can still be a bit anxious around going to the loo in general, has a habit of withholding wee, etc. I think she was not quite ready and would have benefitted from a bit more time. DD2 on the other hand already seems much more functional about the whole thing, just takes it in her stride and has never shown any anxiety (so far!).

I have been feeling like DD will never be interested into potty for some time now, so reading that so many are in similar boat is quite relieving... She is not even oblivious, more like completely against it.

DD has been out of cot since last summer, she was refusing to sleep in it, so changing to proper bed brought a considerable improvement. Have you thought about buying a proper single or double bed instead of the toddler one? We have her bed one side against the wall and bed shield on other, so no risk of her falling out. The problem with the toddler bed is that in couple of years they will be too big for it and will have to spend more money on another bed.
In all this time she has only once crawled out of the bed during the bed time. We usually snuggle up with her until she falls asleep (in that time DD usually goes through all her nursery rhymes repertoire) and one evening she decided to get out to have a wander around all the bedrooms on the floor then came back, crawled back to bed, snuggled up to DH and fell asleep. So it fits ok for us.

haventgotaclue had a baby girl on Monday! Congrats to her.

We have just tentatively decided to move house this year if possible. More upheaval! But we want to do it whilst DS is young enough to adapt easily to the change. It means putting him into his own room here and then transferring him to an entirely new room when/if we move. But what can you do.

Btw the reason for the toddler bed is a really stupid one. I've wanted my child to have a racecar bed ever since Ricky Schroeder had one on Silver Spoons. I thought it was the greatest thing I'd ever seen! But if they're V expensive, I'll have to let that dream die!

Congratulations Havent!

Anna you need that toddler bed! :)

Yay haven't!! That's great news!!

So, 1 hour into potty training and dd is refusing to even try the potty or the loo. Should I quit now or wait and see if a poo/wee in her pants is enough to change her mind??

New house is exciting anna!

Dd is still in cot, its a cot bed but for now still in cot mode because she wriggles around so much. She can't even stay under a duvet.

lady have you got chocolate buttons? They really work.

2 wee wee accidents followed by 2 potty wees (and a chocolate halfstar )

So stressful.

Potty training update: (Humour me please, you are my tolerant people listening to me waffle on about my pfb)

She did ok over the 4 day weekend, on the Monday we went for a pub lunch with friends and sat in the garden so was able to pop her on the potty out there no biggy. Yesterday she refused to go on there in the morning and got really angry telling me she hated the potty. I dropped her off at the childminder who didn’t seem overly enthusiastic ‘well we’ll give it a go’ and I cried all the way to work (so dramatic) and worried all day including spending 10 minutes of my 1-1 with my boss talking about potty training (loser). Anyway, picked DD up at 5, she’d had a poo accident in the garden but all wees done in the loo no problem, childminder actually said it shouldn’t take too long since she’s well on her way. So relieved! Anyway have since realised she just doesn’t want to sit on the potty when she doesn’t want to ‘go’, I hadn’t twigged she was that far along the process so had forced her in the morning. Last night she made some weird noises (easily recognisable as ‘I need a wee’ noises) and I popped her on the potty without issue. So I basically just need to back the hell off and she’ll probably be fine 

Coil out last week and officially ‘trying’ next month. Can I blame the drama and over reaction to potty training on mad hormones?

lady that's great news! I meant to respond earlier when you said it was a stressful process. YES. Both times for me it has been a major stress, a bit like weaning onto solids? And both times the childcare people have had this face about the prospect of doing it with them. I don't blame them but it's very upsetting when you've been putting in the work at home. You kind of wonder will you always be fretting about it. But once it's done, it's done!

Sounds like DD is doing really well. If I have any further advice to give (other than chocolate buttons) is to consider only using the loo from now on. You might not be ready for that and it does mean a lot of back and forth to the toilet when you're out having lunch and stuff, but that settles down soon too.

Oh and I'm just thinking about your 'I need to back the hell off' comment...for our 2 I was the one to set the whole thing up and decide a strategy, BUT,dh was very good at 'implementing' the strategy and distracting them while they were going for a wee. Sort of messing around and cracking jokes etc to lighten things up. Is your dp good at that? Sometimes we do need to get out of the way!

Yes! Just like weaning!! That is exactly how I described it. The time and the mess...

Ok so going well but today cm said she did 3 poos in pants and asked if she can use pull ups. I really don't want to. I've asked if she can give it 2 more days the dp can try over the weekend (while I am away on a hen do!). Dp is very good but he's been even more on at her about getting on the potty than I've been so might need some 'retraining'.

Lady with ds1 his cm was OK but not overly supportive, nursery were fav, cm kept putting a nappy on to go out so I took away the nappies advising her I didn't want her doing that take potty so she used pull ups to go out so DH said the HV had advised that had set him back and stop it was because she didn't want to lug a potty around the other 2 toiddlers used a loo ds1 refused still now at home for a poo at 6yr he uses the child seat

I've heard pull ups can set them back, that's why I really don't want to go down that route if possible. I don't know how long I can put her off for. I guess I could take another week off work to try and encourage her myself...

She just weed on the sofa and then just day in it so I had no idea. Oh the washing. This is a my least favourite part of parenting so far!!

Lady she is making excellent progress and your cm should support you we had to be firm with ours, he barely wet actually it was sheer laziness on her part as didn't want to take potty out. Nursery were amazing got him dry as took him hrly initially.

Ds2 we are yet to get going but will try in next few weeks he knows when he has been for a poo he tells me

Watching with interest!

Only thing I'm a bit worried about is that DS has been wearing pull ups during the day since he was 9 months old. So I suspect we'll have to go cold turkey which freaks me out a bit. I know Bambino Mio do training cotton knickers with an absorbent bit at the front - I'm not sure whether that would help or not?

I bought underpants yesterday in anticipation (Blaze ones, naturally, it's all Blaze in this house) but I don't think he's anywhere near ready.

Last night he went to bed and was talking away to himself for half an hour as usual, and when DH went up at one point he noticed a smell and DS had done a massive poo. So he's still either oblivious, or denying it cos he doesn't want the bother of changing his nappy.

I suspect he'll be dead last! But I'm definitely not going to start till he's ready as loads of my friends are saying they started too soon and wish they'd waited and it got done quicker etc etc. I was intending this summer but the way it's going he'll be nearer to 3.

We got those training pants in mothercare for dd1. They're grand, I suppose the idea is that they catch a little bit of wee if they just don't make it to the toilet/potty quite on time...but IME they weren't a big aid to the process in the long run. Worth buying a two pack maybe. Oh and don't get them too many packs of normal pants from naice shops at first, there will be lots of times you need to just bin a pair, so get as cheap as you can find to get started.

Not sure about the pull ups, we used them a little bit in the early days for things like going out for the day or car journeys where we just couldn't face the idea of the mess, but stopped them fairly soon. DD2 had been in pull ups but nursery asked us to stop as it takes longer to change them that way (have to take off trousers etc). And then once we started training they said no pull ups, pants only.

east dd1 still uses a toilet seat occasionally, glad she's not the only one! She's pretty little and it's just easier really. That said the bloody toilet seat has ruined our loo seat with scratches

Half star ds1 is typical male likes to sit n read whilst taking a poo so needs the trainer seat as can't balance without 😁

Ohhh those with first boys by a trainer seat for boys has small covering on front to stop them pissing over top binned our first one n brought 3 padded with handle boy ones (one for each bathroom).

I bought really cheap pants on amazon, they worked out about 50p a pair and in bight patterns which dd likes to choose.

Clearly dd2 heard me talking about her and had an accident yesterday at nursery for first time in ages

Hope today goes well lady, nearly the weekend and you can have a good run at it then.

Perhaps she's a lurker on here halfstar?

I'm away on a hen weekend this weekend so dp has done a grand job and no accidents yesterday. Now Sunday is my responsibility, potty training on 2 hours sleep with an 'adult headache'. What can go wrong??

Oh, I am so behind everybody on the potty matter. I think I am hoping that magic will happen and one day DD will say she is going on potty and it will just happen. Just like that... I will probably leave the matter until about june time when things will not be as stressful as they are at work. We are doing lots of poo and potty talking, but thats it. DD will happily sit on the potty, but refuses to take the pants down.
The most depresing thing? I remember myself very well at the age of 3 and there was no trace of potty training being a recent thing,not even the night time one. It was a long gone history by then. My mum was quite when we visited them in November and DD was still in nappies. Thank goodness DM doesnt live nearby and I avoid the topic in emails. She probably is convinced the potty training is done and dusted.

I don’t think you’re behind strawberry I know loads of people who wait until 3. One of my besties was waiting until 3 though and then one morning a few months before his birthday her DS said he didn’t want to wear a nappy anymore, he wanted pants. And he was done. Totally nailed it in a matter of days! (I always thought these were an urban baby myth but I saw it with my own eyes I swear).

So last night dd woke me at 4am because she needed a wee, I had to run and get her a potty and she did deliver. I am so not ready for night training as well but didn’t want to tell her to just do it in her nappy. The poo wars continue. On Sunday she asked to do a wee then did a poo in her potty and DP caught her in time on Saturday so we had an accident free weekend but she did 2 in her pants at the childminder’s yesterday including one right before I got there so I had to clean it up in front of them all (which actually wasn’t that much worse than cleaning a nappy up since the pants are dropped in a bag, whole poo and all) which they seemed to enjoy, it was the last straw for me and I’ve contacted the nursery and preschool I was going to move her to at age 3 and asked if they can take her now. We were holding out because they’re a bit more pricy and don’t start until 8am rather than the 7.30 and because DD loves the childminder but I’m not sure I can take the stress of arguing with them every day.

Don't worryStrawberry we're not even attempting it. We were talking about it last night and agreed he's looking like he'll be 3. And we also agreed we didn't give a shit.

Mind you, we are in a different position of having no family. It means there's nobody to care! We operate in a little bubble. The crèche certainly don't seem to be expecting it as they haven't said a word.

Lady dolly do you mean they didn't even help you? Just stood there and watched? Ugh. I'd be looking for a nursery place top tbh.

DS is being a massive pain about changing his nappy though/changing clothes. Mornings are a bit fraught and involve lots of him screaming NO NAPPY! and being counted to three (never works, he's a hard nut, he just shouts NO! three times!) and of course then the naughty step. Which does eventually work. It's just 15 minutes of drama every bloody morning!

And then a repeat when we want to put him in his pyjamas at night!

On the upside, he has finally embraced his electric toothbrush. Little steps.........

please don't worry strawberry - again, so normal to not be starting yet, and like I say dd's nursery discourages it before 2.5!

lady Oh wow. Yes I can see why you are looking to change. That's really crap. Any time I arrived at the CM to collect mine and they did a poo/wee at or just before collection time, the CM dealt with it (even though i would always offer to). I hope you're not feeling too discouraged as it sounds like your DD is making brilliant progress.

RE. the night time waking, our DD1 did that. We were not prepared for her to go dry at night as well and were like at the prospect of having to get up in the night again. it might settle down but if she keeps waking at night you could try lifting her before you go to bed?

DD2 on the other hand was dry at night while she was still in full time nappies. So odd. I would get her up in the morning and have a cuddle with her and the next thing feel a big warm seeping in her nappy, it was like she was holding it in for me. That's one of the reasons why we decided to train on the earlier side. By the way - she mixed up poo/wee (as in saying she needed one when she was doing the other) for ages when she started too.

Anna electric toothbrush you say! Nice work. My dd1, at the age of 5, has finally embraced saline solution + nose blowing when she has a cold. It feels like such a breakthrough to not have such drama over it (or listen to her sniffing). Think she just realised that it feels really good to have a clear nose.