Babies after Infertility

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Here is a thread for all of us who got our babies even though we never actually believed this could happen us ...

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They aren't tested ones and they aren't great grades. I wouldn't transfer two if they were tested

Ah, I thought they were tested I did wonder... hmm in that case I may well be tempted to put them both back.

Would it be worth getting them tested to help decide?

I wouldn't risk defrosting them to test and then refreezing and defrosting again for FET it's too much stress on them and think it lowers survival rates but this is why I'm in such a dilemma!

Are your clinic able to give % chance of success with both back and % chance of twins? I guess you have to go with your gut feeling. What does your DH think?

I think there's about a 5-10% max higher chance of success with both back but overall the success rates are higher transferring them one at a time so around 50% for 2 maybe but overall success rate of around 60% having 2 attempts with one at a time. I don't remember what the chance of twins are but it's pretty low.

I guess separate transfers is good if overall chance of success is higher and no risk of twins. Good luck whatever you decide!

Thanks trixie Hope all is good with you x

Aaah @lucieloos you are a marvel.

FWIW no way would I transfer two blasts - iirc the chance of implantation only goes up by a few percent vs transferring 1, but if implantation does happen you’re 50% more likely to have twins. So not very much improvement in overall chances for massive risk of 2.

(That said, if you do SET and it takes, what will you do with the 4th embie?)

Definitely no procreation, ivf-assisted or otherwise here. Stealthini no 2 continues to be a marvel but we are content for now. If no 3 happens it won’t be until at least 2021 (is my plan anyway! - DH said the other day he’d quite like to have 4 ).

Hope everyone is well and has lovely plans for bank hol x

Arghh yes I am kind of leaning more towards transferring one now although my reasons for considering two aren't to increase chances but more because of the european trek with 2 young children and the cost involved. I just initially thought we would go one last time put them both in as they aren't great blasts and what will be will be. If one works then great, if it doesn't then that's fine and the likelihood of two is probably pretty low considering previous history, the fact they are both from the same round and they aren't top grade. I just don't know though I keep going back and for with it. So hard to know what to do.

I think if I did SET there's the option of transferring the slower day 6 embryo first or if I did the day 5 one first and it worked we would just have to cross that bridge when we come to it.

Glad all is going well with you and the stealthini's. I think i might have spaced our attempts out a bit more if age wasn't such a factor. Have a great bank hol x

The thing is tho that there’s no correlation between the grade of the embie (which is just about how visually good it looks) and whether it’s euploid. You could have 2 babies there. Esp with the day 6 - I had 6 (out of a total of 26) day 6 blasts and pgs showed 4 of them are euploid. A better ratio than for my day 5s. My consultant said day 6s are just as good. So wouldn’t discount yours because of that!

I guess the question is whether in your heart you’d be ok with 4 kids. If the answer is a HELL NO I wouldn’t risk it. If you’re more que sera sera then go for it.

I’m 38 so no spring chicken but my body needs a rest from pregnancy, breastfeeding etc. Let’s see whether no 3 ever eventuates!

Excited for you either way though!

Oh gosh yes I guess there's just no way of knowing. I don't really want 4 kids it's not something I've ever even remotely considered. I mean if it happened we would manage but it's not really something I would choose whereas 3 I have always thought seems a nice number. I'll keep you posted!

3 is a nice number Lucie, I'm one of 3.
All good here, dd recently turned 2 and is just the funniest little person. I do still think about our frosties. A few friends have babies and dd absolutely loves them! Feel like she would make a brilliant big sister and help out with a baby but terrified of haemorrhage/blood clot after dd and coping with 2!

It's tough trixie as the birth part terrifies me too. I've not had great experiences and ended up with an EMCS with the last one. It's the part I would least look forward to if we were successful again but that said if you do really want another try not to let it put you off as every birth is different and chances are you might have a completely different experience next time.

Hi all,
@lucieloos exciting times regarding your decision on No3. Stealth has all the good advice but absolutely get the need to consider the sheer practicalities in going over to the clinic, too! Keep us updated with what you decide in the end.

Again, all kudos to you considering three. I'm 36wk with no2 now and SO DONE. Obviously looking forward to DS joining our family but this pregnancy has been way tougher. It hasn't helped that I've got placenta praevia this time around too (poss in part caused by a previous MROP in my first birth and 2 ERPCs) and have had some bleeding and consequently a range of hospital stays for monitoring, which has been stressful for DD care reasons and general life! Holding on now for an early Sept ELCS -will be booked in for it tomorrow at my next scan so that's exciting/ surreal!

Hope everyone else is doing well x

Hello all, hope everyone’s good. I wrote a long post here at the weekend and lost it, probably because I was half asleep. Grrr!

@lucieloos, well done on making the decision to go again - so exciting! Impossible to know what to do, but I think on balance I would go for the practical and financial expense of a SET rather than the risk of twins. I know there will still be the question of what happens to the final embryo if you’re successful first time, but as you say you can cross that bridge when you come to it! As it happens, I’m from a v big family (1 of 7) and always thought I’d have 4 kids as that wasn’t very many. Haha! You would obviously cope with 4, little ones, you’d have to but if you want to go back to work etc, you’d need to consider if that would be possible. Obviously don’t know where you stand on that.

@Grumpelstiltskin sorry to hear you have placenta previa, how rotten. hope your scan went well though and you now know the date you’ll meet your little boy. Super exciting and so soon!!!

@trixietrixie I totally know what you mean about worrying about the birth. I had a haemorrhage and blood transfusion and then bowel issues following the EMCS so was in hospital for 12 days!! It was horrible but oddly during this pregnancy I’ve been mostly worried about the fibroid pain I had during the pregnancy which was debilitating. I’m 19w now and have had no issues at all so far - it’s so true that every pregnancy is different. Also, I have some extra appointments with a specialist midwife and the consultant to review what happened last time and make a plan. I feel very looked after and booked in with the same hospital as last time so they know my history. DH and I might also look into therapy to make sure we’ve dealt with the trauma of the birth - I know that sounds dramatic, but you know what I mean!

Hope everyone else and all babies and toddlers doing great! ❤️

star pleased everything is going well. Hopefully you can get some support to process the last birth and make sure it doesn’t happen again.

grump I just realised mini grump v2.0 is hopefully here safe and sound by now. Hope all went well, v1.0 is behaving herself and you are enjoying the first few weeks.

lucie yes keep up posted!

That doesn't sound dramatic at all Star, it sounds like you had a traumatic time! Glad to hear so far so good in this pregnancy.
I actually had a meeting with the consultant after dd and would have a cannula in case I need a transfusion and blood thinners throughout and after.
I worry about coping with 2 as we don't have family support locally and sometimes struggle with just dd. She's becoming more independent though so hopefully she would be my little helper. I do feel a bit broody at the moment!
How are things going Lucie?

Hi there glad everyone is doing ok.

@star1980 I'm glad you are being looked after and everything is going smoothly in this pregnancy. I think the therapy sounds like a good idea!

@trixietrixie I have found it quite demanding with two but you would cope especially as your little one is getting bigger now.

Well news from me is that I went back to Czech and had a transfer of one day 5 hatching blast last Friday. I'm 7dpt today and got a positive 1-2 on digi today! I'm really quite shocked to be honest as I didn't really think it would work. My emotions are varying wildly at the moment from what have we done with such a small age gap again and how will we manage to being really happy. There's a long way to go yet anyway as this isn't even a tested embryo so will see what happens. I'm already having palpitations about work though. I would be 12 weeks before returning from this maternity and would have to tell them before I even go back. I probably wouldn't even be back 6 months and this would be the second time I've returned pregnant. It doesn't look good does it!

Hi everyone - not sure if I posted on this thread when my son was born but recognise a lot of names so hope you don't mind me joining again.

lucie wow that's fantastic news!!! I'm sure you're bound to feel a roller-coaster of emotions but am sure you just need a bit of time. Think we're all programmed to assume the worst after infertility so when something actually works it's like wtaf!! As for work, I really wouldn't worry - I stressed for ages over doing a second transfer and making sure id been back a reasonable time but really didn't make any difference - the outcome is the same and no one would have said "oh well done for working a year before finishing again".

Afm, I'm currently 40 plus 4 with number two and losing my mind. First one came at 38 weeks so this is v much new territory and I'm feeling v emotional. Not helped by the fact it's been a shitty pregnancy in terms of sickness etc. Any positive stories for second births??

trixie I'm exactly the same - I worry a lot about coping with two and whether I can even love the second like I do the first although I do find first a lot easier since he's turned two and can communicate better.

Thanks @Chocolateandwineplease27 yes I'm starting to come around to it a little more already. It just really surprised me I'm not sure why. I am worried about work though. Last time I got pregnant within a week of being back so I was there around 3 months and then told them so was there about 7 months before going on maternity again. This time will be even less 🙈 Your right though I wouldn't get any thanks even if I went back for a year or two and then went off again.

I can't believe your 40+4 already. I don't have much to say about the birth but I find sniffing clary sage has brought contractions on pretty quickly both times for me!

Oh wow @lucieloos, congratulations! Don’t worry about work, what’s done is done and they’ll just have to deal with it. Hoping you have a happy healthy pregnancy.

@Chocolateandwineplease27 ooh you must be going crazy. Hopefully just a couple more days and no 2 will be with you. And don’t worry about loving no 2, I found it to be a slow burn but your heart will just expand.

AFM, not much to report. Am back at work and adjusting to life as a working mum of 2. Going well so far although both children have been sick in last couple of weeks which hasn’t been fun; up all night with them running temperatures etc & then heading into the office for a full day of work . The kids are 2y9mo and 9mo respectively and really starting to become a little unit - they adore each other which is just so lovely to see. Stealthini #2 at 9 months is the happiest, jolliest little thing. If I could guarantee another of her I’d probably have another...still pondering it but it’s 50/50 for now. Plus am at a pinch point at work and really can’t be going through another hyperemesis pregnancy any time soon. So we’ll see!

I think it might be borderline chemical today anyway so probably too soon to be over thinking. Should know for definite tomorrow. Glad all going well for you @stealthbanana x

Oh no! Keeping everything crossed for you @lucieloos xx

I'm pretty sure it is now. I'm disappointed as although it was a shock initially I was getting used to the idea. We will try the other one but I just have a feeling it's not meant to be now. Lucky to have my 2 beautiful babies though.