Sept 06 Babies - trying to sit and roll....

[clairemow]

new thread here!

Sorry to here your DS is not well Bristols
Have no experiance with medised but I brought a bottle last time we were back in the UK on a recomendation from a good friend. She say's it works wounders.
Hope he feels better soon.

bristols, just a quickie. We use Medised more than calpol or any other medicine. It's great. It helps clear the nose and has paracetamol and a sedative. Fraser has had it quite a few times, esp when he's had a terribly runny nose and hacking cough in the night. I once asked our GP about it as I felt bad giving it to DS1 every night for a week (5 ml dose). He said not to worry at all. It is good stuff.

Morning all. Feel a bit bad about posting about that thread now Please don't worry you three, the chances are so slim for all of you. Thinking of you xxx

Hi everyone - my posts are so sporadic at the moment as I have so much else on. Very sadly I found out yesterday that my Granpa collapsed and died so feeling quite tearful today. We only lost my Nan, his wife, a month or so ago and he was in good health so it's a bit of a shock. We'd been to see him a few weeks ago though to introduce DS2 so I feel at least he'd met him and I'd had the chance to chat with him and give him lots of hugs.

Just to reassure some of you worrying your socks off, I had sore boobs and sickness last month and turned out to be just bad PMT, same again this month at the moment so hoping its the same thing and pretty sure it is

Jingle - we're being very careful weaning DS2 - wrt the petit filous I was referring to DS1, he was a lot easier to wean. Have you found any absolute no-nos yet?

Mabel - I've jumped straight in there with the finger foods too this time. So much more relaxed about the gagging thing now! Trouble is that he doesn't actually seem to eat anything, except a rusk, which he then came out in a rash after!

Bristols - if you're worried about feeling like you've 'drugged' him to sleep then just use calpol - it's not a sedative so if it works you know it's because it's relieved the discomfort. However - I'd use the medised, if he gets good sleep it'll help him mend quicker and also you be more able to deal with a poorly baby if you've had a good night.

Marls - sorry to hear you're not well, hope you're on the mend soon.

Claire - can I ask how you went about dropping the 11.30am feed (if you have yet)?

Liquid, I'm so sorry to hear about your Granpa. Maybe he missed his wife too much. I don't know if you believe in this, although I know you have faith, but hopefully they are together again now. My grandparents are nearly 90, and live up the road. I fear that when they go, it will be both quite quickly, and in some ways maybe it's better, as neither would have to live too long alone. They've been married 65 years and are pretty inseperable.

Re the 11.30 feed, Fraser dropped it by himself really. I remember DS1 wanting milk at lunch for ages, and gradually reducing the amount over a couple of months until he was only having a couple of ounces, then offering water. Fraser though, once he was eating solids, wasn't so interested in the milk, so I was offering firstly half the bottle then solids, then offering the rest. Then after a little while, I offered the bottle as sips in between mouthfuls of food. He didn't even notice when one day I just offered him a cup of water! Not that he drank any... just sucked, swished it about and spat it out! But tbh, I am much less concerned that he drops any milk this time. Yesterday he only had milk in an effort to get through a day without vomit. It worked, and today at nursery they tell me he ate a huge breakfast...!!!

Mind you, a day of milk only and he was awake last night at 4 am for a bottle... Haven't had that for a while! But figure it's best to let his little tummy recover from the sickness before re-introducing food.

btw, just been on yahoo, and love the pictures fairysnuff and bristols!

Bristols, Cori & Compo ... [Marls meekly asks] what about the pill? I have loved being on the pill, esp. seasonale with only 4 periods/year ... don't think I could stand the withdrawal method; would be way too frustrating for me & DH (who BTW is Catholic I read the entire thread too ...)

Liquid - I am so sorry to hear about your Granpa.

Bristols - Hope your DS is better.

Did finally get my voice back Monday; no longer feeling immense urge to learn sign language

Jameson "scooting" backwards, getting into sitting position on his own, was introduced to soft snacks in high chair but didn't seem to know what to do with them, LOL. Sorry to hear about tantrums others are having. Right now DS1's the golden child & Jameson the problem child - fussy more often than DS1 was, maybe b/c we're trying to drop his early morning nap ...

DH being offered another position ... so in the next few weeks we'll be finding out where we'll be living for the next 3-4 years.

Did the Virginia Tech massacre make your news? .... I live in a violent country ... living in such a non-violent part of it right now though I feel so sheltered from it sometimes it's easy to forget ... until something like this happens and makes me think of my own college experience and how similar it was to that of the VA tech students until their experience was shattered by just one student
The worst that's reported to police here is perhaps graffitti or an ill raccoon in someone's backyard ... our doors are open all of the time ... part of the reason I'd like to stay here.

Marls, lol at the ill racoon!!! yes, the shooting is all over the news here. It's terrible, unimaginable.

Also lol at the meek pill suggestion!! I was too scaredy cat to mention I just got a Mirena coil fitted a month ago. It's great so far... I'm far too scared to try that other method - conceived both DSs on first month of trying, so pretty sure it could go horribly wrong. But I guess it depends whether you would mind having another child or not, if it isn't a problem or you'd like one really, then I guess it isn't an issue. What might be "horribly wrong" for me might be great news for someone else!

Marls - I was on the pill for ten years or so before ttc DS. TBH, I like not taking it. I find that I'm much more 'in the mood' without it. Also, I have found it easier to keep my weight under control. But, I am very aware that my weight will not be very stable if I'm pg!!

Might look into the Mirena. Does it hurt? Also, will be ttc probably at the end of the year so I don't think they'll do it, will they?

DS still very poorly. He woke up three times in the night. He was up at five this morning. The coughing woke him up and that was it! DH got up with him, for which I'm very grateful. Had trouble getting him to sleep again tonight. But I did give the medised so hopefully he'll stay asleep...

The news of the shooting is dreadful. I hope you get to stay where you are, Marls. I know that there are shootings in this country fairly often, but I'm so glad that its not legal to own a gun. It must make some difference.

Enjoying having Mum and Dad here at the mo. Especially with DS being ill. Hope he's better for us to go away at the weekend.

Liquid, so sorry about your grandfather. What a shock. Sounds as though he had a broken heart. Thinking of you

I didn't get on well with the pill - got terrible headaches. Did have the depo provera injection for about 5 years, but put on quite a bit of weight, which FELL off when I stopped having it! The mirena seems ok so far. i'm watching for weight gain... It did hurt having it put in, but compared to childbirth, a breeze (and I could take a strong nurofen!!). Apparently it's really easy to remove. My doc didn't seem to be concerned as to whether I'd want more children or not.

bristols, hope DS stays asleep, and that he feels better tomorrow...

Think I may have solved the reason for F's sickness. Another tooth has appeared on the bottom gum. That means that in the last two weeks he has grown 5 new teeth to add to the 2 he already had. Where DS1 used to get smelly acidy nappies, F seems to get rid of the bacteria from teething by being sick. Great for an emetophobe Mummy...

Liquid - sorry to hear about your Grandpa At least he got to meet your lo though...
Marls - it is horrifying what has happened in Virginia, the pictures of the gunman are terrifying and all over the TV and papers here today.
Clairemow - sorry to hear about ds being ill. We have no teeth at all here yet. Dd has at last started rollin though - she keeps getting her arm stuck and gets very frustrated when she is on her tummy as she can't get back over yet.
I was on the pill for years but stopped taking it after dd was born. Tbh me and dh don't have sex that regularly for me to think taking a hormonal drug worthwhile - that's why we're meant to use condoms. We definitely don't want any more kids so i might have to re-evaluate things especially as dh refuses to contemplate the snip

ah, the snip. No go subject for "discussion" here too.. I do think we're a bit young though, as maybe we'll change our minds... Who knows...!

Well, F ate really well at nursery yesterday, refused any milk at all, and then slept all night. Thank God!!! No sickness for over 2 days now, and the little tooth on the bottom is well and truly through. I hope he isn't going to get sick every time he gets a new tooth. Mind you, he's got 7 already, so only 8 or so more to go and then molars...

Hi all,

interesting to hear what other methods of contraception you are using. I was on the mini pill for a long time, i can't take the combined pill it gives me dreadful migraines. I am still contemplating what method would be best. I am still BF full time, but I do realise that like the withdrawel method, it it not a reliable contraceptive!

Well Ds2 had his 1st 'little fishes' class this morning, we have taken him swimming a couple of times before, but not for a couple of months. When he saw the pool his legs were going and he was laughing, and like his big brother he is a natural in the water, kicking and splashing , almost as if he knows what to do!

Anyone got any signs of crawling yet? If i put something he wants just out of his grasp DS2 throws himself forward and almost gets up onto his knees, but then gives up and just cries / shouts at me in frustration!

Marls the virginia shooting is dreadful, esp as it seems alot of his teachers and fellow students knew he was quite disturbed. It is shocking to hear the response from some of the pro-gun lobby, who say if all the students who were shot had been armed they would have been able to defend themselves! What sort of crazy argument is that...v. scarey.

Was planning to post later but just seen this and since ours are reaching the sort of age where these are useful and it's such a good deal: Quinny zapp at boots.com for £75

Bargain!

Mabel - Agree with you re: pro-gun ... and I'm from Texas too so saying that is practically tantamount to sacrilege ... Dad owns guns, and I went dove hunting with him once when I was 10 and that was that. (Luckily DH isn't from a hunting family.)

"The Snip" ... LOL; DH has offered; said I'm quite happy with my 4 periods/year thank you v. much & would continue to take Pill even if he did it ... so he's waiting!

Mabel, Compo, Claire - V. interesting to hear about headaches & weight gain. And about Mirena, too. I'm actually the smallest I've ever been right now, unbelievable even to me. But do continue to get migraines every "period."

Claire - your DS's new teeth!! Wishing J's would hurry up and come already ... so painful for him.
Local paper prints every one of Bentonville's police reports for public to read! Some of them are just hilarious!

Mabel, good for your DS taking swimming!! We belonged to a club w/family pool in Houston ... still trying to figure out how to get access to one here. Such an important skill to have.

Liquid that is SUCH a cute stroller!! Hadn't seen that kind before. I have a very small car so it'd be perfect.

Have just e-mailed link (to US shopping site) to DH w/ subject: "Unfortunately we don't need this, do we?"

No real signs of crawling here yet. And no teeth either. DS seems a bit better today (after another dreadful night). We gave the medised which I think worked in the end but we gave it too close to bed time. He had it earlier today and it seems to have done the trick. Got to go and mash the veg for dinner. More later...

no signs of crawling here either, but lots of different noises - dada, mama, wowo, baba etc. which is so cute. We have little conversations.

Bristols, we sometimes give medised at bedtime and also then if they wake in the night as well. So long as 4 hours have passed. Hope you have a good night.

Switching off now, DH and I are having a "computer-free" night. He's as addicted to MN as I am....

Hey everyone, this is the 3rd attempt at posting - had a powercut yday while checking in from Madrid & then this morning it wouldn't send so now that I'm back at home I'm hoping it's 3rd time lucky

Liquid, just wanted to say how sorry I am. I lost my Grandpa 3 days after Jack was born so understand how you are feeling. Probably not much consolation but at least he's with your Nan now

Marls, yep VT massacre all over the news here. I have just come back from Madrid where they were still analysing etc. Echo what Mabel says about the pro-gun lobby, yep I am sure if they'd all been armed it would have made a huge difference...NOT. As for Charlton Heston & his looney NRA associates, what a complete bunch of tossers...sorry it makes me so mad

Clairemow, hmm...this may sound silly but I've always been a little sceptical & scared of the coil!! How effective is it? Does it hurt when they put it in? I went on the pill at Uni but soon came off it as it sent me quite doolally! Doctor has been trying to convince me about the mini pill but I'm not sure. We've been using condoms for 10 years & only had one break, hence morning after pill (some 8 years ago)..sorry if TMI! Do need to consider something as now isn't the time for number three.... BFN TODAY (phew..cannot tell you all just how relived I was to af at the airport!!!!)

The other major news is... I'VE RESIGNED

Meant to also say that DH went to docs for snip advice! Has been referred until J is one - apparently it's unethical to do it until baby is a year. He's really up for it...I on the other hand keep telling him not to be so hasty (even though I REALLY don't want any at the moment!)

Also, BIG respect to you Mabel for still BF full time!!

My DH kept going on about the snip, but has now decided it is too scary... has anyone here been sterilised?

I generally avoid the news, sorry I know I ought to keep up with it all but my own little bubble is so much nicer a place! And then you see these things happening and I think it is just horrendous. Imagine actually suggesting that things would be better if everyone was armed!? Madness!!

Your poor Granpa Liquid
Do you think it was a broken heart?
My Grandad has been so strong since my Granny died (it was some time ago) but he is beginning to show signs of getting tired now.
I can't imagine what it must be like for them to lose their loved ones like that.
My heart goes out to you and yours as you deal with the loss of them both.

As for crawling. DD is carpet shuffling. She looks like a seal and moves like a catapiller (do you know what I mean? up on to all fours, flop onto tummy with hands and legs flailing when she lands!)
Now and again she gets herself up onto her hands and toes before launching for the desired toy!!
The fireguard is in place and everything has been moved out of her reach!
So far we are 6inches from the floor, my mum loves to tell me that I will end up with all my belongings 6inches from the ceiling before she is done!!
Only one wee tooth in so far but I am sure i CAN SEE THE BEGINNINGS OF THE NEXT SO SHE WILL HAVE 2 (oh, oops hit caps lock!)
2 on her bottom middle. Cute! and good as I am V worried about being bitten when the top set come in. So far I am still protected by her tongue!

Me and Dh have discussed the snip and he always said he would, but now that it may be on the horizon in the next few years he is beginning to back out and talk about maybe having a third! What! i never agreed to three!
Can't blame them it is such a big decision, not sure I would be so willing to be sterilised. I didn't know they would make you wait a year though, but I guess it makes sense.
I know of a girl locally whose husband got sterlised only to find she was having an affair! He wasn't too old to have more either, but she has not only broken his heart but sterilised him as well!!!
Not nice!
mini pill for me until after no2, then we will see what we do.
Fingers crossed for you guys though and your pregnancy worries. I am sure you will be fine, whatever the outcome.
Oh, what does af stand for?

Sorry about mega long post!

Coriander - congrats on AF (see, I told you!!) and also huge congrats on having resigned!!! You must be so happy at the moment
Fairysnuff - well done to your dd for carpet surfing. Still just on rolling here1

What is AF??
Did they come back to you, Coriander? Or did you get to the point you didn't care anymore?

AF..auntie flo as in period!

Yes, they came back to me after I'd appealed saying they were upholding their original decision. Part of me just wants to dig in & make a bigger fuss, perhaps go for constructive dismissal...but I'm losing the will ......feel sad too as I've been there for 8 years etc.

compo, yep, you had a sixth sense