March 2016: the one where Indomitable gives birth...

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I hope I haven't duplicated a new March thread in my sleep deprived state.. Went to reply and found thread was full!..

I'm dreading it too MrsB. I've already told dh to make sure he isn't working late that day and vetoed him going out that night too!

MrsB just to reassure you that the crankiness after the jabs was for about 24 hours. It's a bloody long 24 hours but for 12 of them the babies are sleeping.

Calpol is your friend, don't plan on doing anything other than cuddles. Martha was clingy for about 48 hours but only mardy as fuck grumpy for 24 hrs.

I feel it is only fair to warn you that the farts are vile - I was convinced something had crawled up Martha's bum and died judging by the stench. Truly toxic. I think DH was quietly impressed by her farting prowess.

Finally - make sure you have at the ready just in case

Hi everyone, I've got a lot of catching up to do as I don't think I've even posted on this thread but I did pop into the antenatal ones from time to time. Hope it's still ok if I join in

I'll read and have a catch up, but just quickly about vaccines, it's always a worry how they'll react. My ds1 screamed the place down (so much so that they thought at first he was taking a reaction, but it was just outrage) whereas ds2 took it in his stride. Dd is due to get hers next Thursday so I'm dreading it a bit. We are well stocked up on calpol!

Time is flying - 8 weeks already. I or thing has her brothers cold and conjunctivitis at the moment, plus thrush on her tongue. Fun times. Wish the lurgy would bugger off, it's been non-stop this winter.

Beaut what a bombshell, I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this. Keep on keeping on. I think the whole 'rewriting history' thing is sadly pretty common - my ex certainly did it (the whole 'I never wanted to get engaged/buy a house/have kids/whatever' - well you never bloody objected at the time!). Surely if that's how he felt he should have discussed it like an actual human being? Sodding men

Cassidy has her jabs later today, will definitely be giving Calpol for the meningitis one, will probably take the bottle with me to avoid any delay! I hired a Caboo from a sling library but I've got to take it back in the morning, I didn't really get on with it but it could possible have been useful if she is grumpy, shame her jabs couldn't have been earlier.

Hope you are doin ok beaut.

Good luck for the jabs all.

DS just slept 9.30pm to 3.30am! I was asleep myself by 10 so that's over 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep, amaaaazing!! What a little trooper he is. I couldn't believe my luck when I woke up and checked the time.

How are you getting on Beaut?

Nice to see you again Embolio

Just had a leaky nappy - thankfully just wee. I thought it was my boob but realised G was soaked! At least I'd banished DP to the other bed because he's had wine this eve.

Now changed and feeding but is a bit fidgety so I'll do a proper read and reply in the morning.

Me

M has just done the same - slept from 11 till 4. Go baby! (Please keep it up)

I am full of cold and an Bfeeding at every chance I get in the hope Martha gets
all my anti bodies and escapes the cold. Fingers crossed.

Hope everyone is okay

We've done 12 - 4:15! Her 3hr set your watch by it waking has done 4hrs! Glad there is some other 4am excitement at longer sleep.

She's eaten and fallen straight back to sleep on me I might see if I can put her down and hope for no vomit..

Not looking forward to the jabs, DH made the mistake of saying he had a couple of days holiday to use up so he's in for a real treat now and will come with us thankfully.

Me that is an amazing chunk of sleep! Come on Nancy, you need to catch up girl!

Good luck everyone with jabs. We couldn't get fitted in until next week when she's nearly 9 weeks.

Yesterday went a little better. I saw the consultant who was lovely then spent far too much in the petite section in Next. But yay! New clothes that fit! I figured anything that boosts my confidence right now is worth its weight in gold. A friend came over and we took them out for ice cream and everyone behaved. I thought I'd have a good cry once they were all asleep but the tears didn't come. I had some wine, watched Geordie Shore and took Nancy up to bed.

Then my 3 yo came in crying for daddy (I suspect she was half asleep and thought he was in the bed) but it has made me so angry this morning. Obviously I haven't heard from him so I can't reassure the DC that they'll see him soon or whatever. The rent is due on May 1st and I have no idea if he's going to pay it. Not sure what to do?

Hope everyone's well xx

beaut did you have a housing benefit claim in before? I think I remember you saying something along those lines. Can you phone or visit your local council and get your claim updated or put one in now that his walked out.

Our local office are fantastic at up dating claims. My parents had to claim while my dad was out of work and with the low wages high rent in the area we've always needed a top up. Last year my dad lost one of his jobs when the company went into receivership and couldn't pay the wages for that month. He went in that morning with his other wage slips and the letter from the company that went bust. The next day they had a letter through with their award and I think it was backdated as he wasn't being paid for 4 weeks work. Here I think you might get given an emergency loan which would be paid back a little at a time by taking money off your claim.

And does the bank holiday give you a couple of days extra? Our rent is due on the 2nd but won't go out until the 3rd on dd.

Please make sure you plan for him not coming back and claim everything you're entitled to. If he comes back and you decide you want to give him another chance all you have to do is stop or update the claims. But if he continues to be so imature and selfish at least you and the kids will be sorted asap.

Well done you! I hope the consultant was able to help too.

Congrats on the good stretches of sleep. We had a good night too but all things being relative it was nowhere near as good as others here! I'll take what I can get though.

I was planning to post similar advice to what dobby said but you've put it far better and in more detail than I could've so I'll leave it at that.

Am finally registering DS today - 4 weeks old and we rang the day after he was born; this was the first available appointment! On my own and semi tempted to go for a comedy middle name, or at least tell DH I've done that to keep him sweating until he gets home haha!

Welcome back embolio

Oh beaut that sounds really upsetting, hope your DH is in touch soon. Can you not speak to his mum/family to shame him into facing his responsibilities? Even if he's not willing to come back and make a go of it, he shouldn't be able to just ignore the fact he has four kids and rent to pay.

Jealous of all of you with long stretches of sleep! Had our usual wakes last night every 2-3 hours and E hasn't been able to settle in her cot due to her cold so we've been co sleeping. DP got up with DD1 at 6am and let me lie in until E woke up at 8. Normally that would have me feeling awesome but I'm full of cold today (and so is E) so i feel like crap. I've got her 6 week check today which should be interesting.

Sorry to those of you stressed about vaccinations. Its unpleasant but hopefully won't be as bad as you fear! DD1 was fine with her jabs but we didn't have the meningitis one back then and like you I've heard stories of babies being very unsettled. We havent got our jabs booked in yet because I was waiting to hear from the vaccine study that we were invited to. they rang me yesterday but I wasn't in a position to chat so they are going to ring back tomorrow. Apparently (according to the letter we got) with the introduction of the men b jab they are looking at how best to time all the other jabs, so if we take part in this study it will mean having the same jabs but at slightly different times.

Think we are heading for the 6 week growth spurt in this house - E was on the boob constantly yesterday evening which isn't like her and she also wanted both sides in the night which isn't like her either. Or could just be her having this cold, who knows!

Hello embolio ☺️

Congrats on the sleep guys! G seems to have no real rhyme or reason but my let down seems to be in cahoots with him so I'll just go with it.

beaut The others, Dobby especially, have got in there with lots of brill advice. I'm glad you had a bit of a zen evening in all the fucked up chaos, though I'm sorry your wee one didn't sleep. Are you close with any of his family? Have they heard anything from him? I'm only in Leeds so a little train ride away if you need some muscle only half joking, I want to punch the nobber

magpie just a small comedy name, what would you go for? Baldrick? Leeds Rhinos Forever? 😁

Just going to go to a baby group for the first time. He's slept since his 8am post breakfast snack (after being wide awake from 5, bloody skylights) so will probably just eat for the entire sesh. Ho hum.

Beaut well done for getting through the day yesterday and I'm glad the consultant was lovely. Everyone has given fab advice about the rent situation as well. Make sure he pays his way he cannot leave you financially unstable as well.

Magpie I registered E alone and was so tempted to give her my maiden name and married name double barrelled just to annoy dh

E is becoming very hard to feed in the night. She is hungry but grunts and groans and fusses. She is more clicky on the teat at night too so I'm definitely going to ask at clinic next week. I don't know if it's my position holding her in the bed? I was thinking maybe I should start bringing her down to the sofa again because she feeds nicely there with my arm propped up on a cushion but then she fed well out and about yesterday and I didn't have the cushion then. I think it's wind related and maybe because she is tired her latch is worse in the middle of the night? Any ideas?

C is 1 month old today :)

Had him at the baby clinic on Tuesday - he's up to 4.54kg - 10 lbs on the nail. He was 3.39kg (7lb 8oz) at birth and dropped to 3kg after 3 days so a good gain, and it's no wonder considering how much time he spends on my boobs! He's got a bit of a rash going on at the moment on his chest though - treating it with Hydramol and Oilatum in his bath. Doesn't seem to bother him much though.

Thinking of you Beaut. Worrying about the rent being paid is really not what you need. If he doesn't pay I recommend you follow the other advice re housing benefit etc but contact your landlord and explain the situation. Landlords are often understanding for a while as long as they're kept in the loop.

DS and I were about to go out but he is in the middle of doing a poo actually I'm glad he's doing it now so I can change him at home before we go rather than trying to clean him up in a public toilet!

TriJo is hydramol prescription? DS has a rash on his legs, I think it might he eczema. I thought I'd leave it for a few days and have been putting a bit of sudocrem on it but will take him to the doctor if it doesn't clear up soon. The worst of his baby acne on his face seems to be clearing up a bit finally which is a relief!

I'm not sure if it's prescription only but the HV wrote a prescription for us for that and the Oilatum.

Last night was horrendous.
Calais finally fell asleep at 10pm after screaming from 6-10. Woke at 11:30 and screamed until 3am then was awake at 5:30.
My mil took her for three hours today so I could sleep thank god but she said she either slept or screamed. She's never happy :( and I don't know what to do. She's fed,clean,warm,burped etc but I just can't make her happy she just cries all the sodding time and I have no idea why.
My poor oh only got three hours sleep lats night to as even in the spare room he just heard her crying and crying.
I'm at breaking point. I've tried gripe water,infacol and infant gaviscon and nothing helps her. It's been like this for weeks. Every feed involves an hour of screaming because she's had a blocked nose for a month and saline drops make fuck all difference.
Sorry for the rant just so fed up
Also re jabs c was fine after hers. Very sleepy and loss of appetite but she wasn't grizzly or clingy and was fine left in her carry cot. It doesn't have to be bad
Beaut- hope things get sorted. You don't need the extra worry about money on top or raising four little ones.

time you just have to keep doing what you are doing, it seems like Calais likes to exercise her vocal cords! The newborn stage really is the hardest, it will get better slowly but surely and she it does you genuinely forget how awful it was.

Cassidy had her jabs today, she spat out most of the rotavirus one and gagged loads, only cried briefly for the jabs then spat out most of the Calpol when we got home. I guess it must be hard when they have only ever tasted milk to suddenly have new tastes. Has fed and slept since we got home so hopefully will carry on like this.

Thanks . Surely eight plus hours a day of screaming is not normal though ? I know babies fuss and cry but even my mil said it seems to be getting very extreme now and something else may be up. I'm just fed up of every feed being a screaming match.

Calais projectiled vomited over the nurse when she had rota virus one. So they re done it as everyone got soaked lol. Bless her hope she stays settled for you.

I was thinking that to it must be strange when they never taste anything else

Also as she was born prem we are still conpelelty in the new born stage 10.5 weeks on from birth and it's not getting any better

Also how do I co sleep safely. I wake up to her every noise anyway but how do I make sure I don't roll on to her or my duvet doesn't go over her head

Beem trying since 5:45 to feed and she's projectiled across the room :(. I have scales at home and she's had no weight gain since Monday either. Screaming and crying at the bottle again.
I'm lost. Every feed shouldn't be like this surely not :(

Time DD (DC1) cried all the time. Looking back, she was very, very tired as she was awake for quite long periods of time. For DC2 and 3, I was much more aware of the fact that babies don't just go to sleep when they are tired (although they bloody should!!!). Ted is 8 weeks old, and cannot be awake for longer than 30 minutes before he gets grumpy and then it's harder to get him off to sleep. This is about enough time for a nappy change, a feed and then a few minutes interaction. I will do anything to get him to sleep at that point - for us the sling works like a charm, but for DS1 it was the pram. For DD, I fed her lying down for almost every feed and let her sleep on the bed (couldn't do this now I have 3 though)! We also used white noise for her (a hairdryer track from iTunes).

Ted rarely cries if he has these short awake times as he isn't getting overtired and he sleeps well at night because of this. It's really surprising how little time they should be awake at this age and I read somewhere that if they yawn it's a bit too late and it can be harder to get them off as they are overtired.

RE: cosleeping. We have a co-sleeper cot for the first long feed, but he then ends up in bed after that. I have the pillows well away from his head and I only have the duvet up to my waist. I wear a long-sleeved top to keep warm. I have baby on my side of the bed and the cot stops him rolling out, but we had a bed guard for the other two. I love co-sleeping and we all get much more sleep because of it.

Time sorry you are going through it. There is a helpline I always see advertised www.cry-sis.org.uk in baby books. I have no idea how it works or if it is good but it's for families with babies who cry a lot. Might be worth a try for advice?

Me when ds was about 6 months he had eczema and the practise nurse prescribed Epaderm which can be brought over the counter too. It did work and I liked the fact that it was grease based rather than a cream, so it didn't dry instantly iyswim? I'm not sure how if it can be used on babies of this age but you could check with the pharmacist?

MrsE glad the jabs weren't too bad. Am crossing fingers for you that you have a settled night. What is this rota one?? I've never heard of it?