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vroc81 · 30/03/2016 23:17

I hope I haven't duplicated a new March thread in my sleep deprived state.. Went to reply and found thread was full!..

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1frenchfoodie · 25/04/2016 09:57

marmite even if you have the source of the wind identified (latch) why not see if infacol can ease the symptoms while you work on latch. It was a godsend for us while we sorted latch issues (essentially one boob has crazy fast flow that makes her come off and gulp, I now express a little before feeding that side). Hope you get your wedding dress and the wedding you want.

Timetogrowup2016 · 25/04/2016 10:30

Well the gaviscon has helped in that she's not throwing up her feeds anymore but she still looks uncomfortable when feeding sometimes and screams but I think some of it is trapped wind. We will see how it goes but I am terrified of it bunging her up.
Had an ok night c fed 140ml at 10. Went down at 11 until 2 then fed just 60ml. Went down at 3:30 until 5 and then had a further 60ml. She went down at 6 then fed at 8 and has had about 70ml.
Anyone using a dummy how often do you use it?
Also I second trying the infacol.
Ffaux- I hope seren and you are ok. Reflux is horrible. Fingers crossed they grow out of it soon

vroc81 · 25/04/2016 10:53

I've also been lurking but not posting the last few days, hope everyone with windy snotty or sick babies are doing ok.

Rhu hope J is ok following his cake eating!

Marmite R is also going three hours at night, you could set your watch by her! DH is waking her (and me) at midnight to do a feed while I pump before he goes to bed, to save me feeding holding her up then pumping, which I do at 3am when she wakes, by the time I've done all that it's nearly half 4 and she's awake again at 6.. and that's her up for the day!

I've just about given up trying to put her on my boob, I'm pumping and bottle feeding but it just wasn't getting anywhere to mean I could stop the pumping and something needed to give timewise or I was going to go insane.. She has one formula feed at 8pm which gives us until midnight and gets me one feed ahead pumping for the top ups the following day.

Here's this mornings smile, we have a beautiful collection of babies on this thread!

March 2016: the one where Indomitable gives birth...
March 2016: the one where Indomitable gives birth...
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Me624 · 25/04/2016 14:59

Gorgeous smiles vroc!

Time when I first gave DS a dummy I swore it would only be for "emergencies" but now I shove it in him all the time! If we're out and I don't want him disturbing everyone with noise I shove it in him as soon as he starts crying. At home I'll try and settle him other ways first but I do give it to him quite a lot - it really calms him down. He usually has it when I'm trying to get him off for a nap too. Funnily enough he doesn't often need it at night - he will usually settle without it after night feeds.

RhubarbAndMustard · 25/04/2016 15:29

J is totally fine following his cake eating Grin.

Time we use the dummy a lot with J. I think this time round I'm just much more relaxed about everything and going with the 'whatever works' approach.

I hope all the reflux issues get sorted soon. J has finished his box of Gaviscon and doesn't seem too bad now.

ffauxlivia · 25/04/2016 16:32

time we use a dummy a lot! I read that reflux babies especially like to suck all the time as it eases their symptoms; if I don't give it to her she just sucks her hands or clothes or anything near her!

vroc gorgeous pics, she looks so cheeky in the second one!

Seren is 6 weeks tomorrow but I don't think we've seen any real smiles yet, I'm desperate to know that she's happy some of the time as she spends so much of her awake time crying or angry!

Timetogrowup2016 · 25/04/2016 17:20

Thank you.
She wouldn't take a dummy before just gagged on it but she will take a Dr browns one. They are wonderful.

IndomitabIe · 25/04/2016 18:47

I survived my first solo day!

Updates here have already been covered: like Me on the lapsed dummy ethic, like Rhu on the gaviscon (he seemed not to need it at all, till I tried to go 24 hours without. Think we'll stick to having it twice a day while that seems enough to take the edge off - he's also a super-windy gulper as I have a ginormo-let down & enough milk for quints). And like ffaux with the sucking anything! I figure it'll be easier to deal with a dummy habit than it will a thumb/finger sucking habit.

DS2 has been sleeping pretty well so far, so I'm forever grateful, but could do with a couple more hours! Was hoping to nap today, but of course he was wide awake (and requiring carrying/feeding/burping all day) until after we picked DS1 up (but will only sleep when held, of course).

Maybe he'll let me go to bed early?!

I didn't achieve much today, but got DS1 fed, homework done and entertained without TV. I need a parenting sticker...

Purpleprickles · 25/04/2016 20:39

Well done Idom sounds like you deserve a glass of Wine or nice cup of Brew

E has a dummy and it helps a lot. Not really in the night though either Me more in the day and now when she is tired but fighting sleep.

We have had a very lazy day today but we got soaked dropping ds to football club and collecting him.

magpiedreams · 26/04/2016 07:53

Another lurker of late here. Hope lots had good nights. We did not but that seems to the new normal! DS2 has taken against the crib again and is generally unsettled.

After reading about lots of dummy success I decided to give it a go but he won't entertain the idea and spits and squirms like I'm putting barbed wire in his mouth! Any tips?! Never used a dummy before, I can't believe it's THAT complicated hit what am I doing wrong?!

I'm attempting a haircut with DS2 in tow today. FX he sleeps or I might get some kind of weird half haircut...

Ohwoolballs · 26/04/2016 10:44

Morning all mamas.

G has a hearing test today (tried 3 times when he was born but it just wasn't happening.) I could have sworn it was 9:40 so had wrestled him in the car seat, double checked the letter and its 1:40. Then I take him out the car seat (still having a meltdown) and have to boob him again. Time for another brew.

indom my first day alone I brushed my teeth at noon and only rinsed my tea mug for repeated tea breaks. That was all I got done!

magpie same dummy issues! We got one in the bottle set and tried a few times and G gives us the mega stink eye and screams harder. Might pick one up with a funky patten or animal on it, that might be the problem! clutching straws

Righto, off to sort out all the stuff that G doesn't fit in any more! sobsobsob

QforCucumber · 26/04/2016 11:29

Ref dummy - we found at first that Rory wouldn't take his he would just scream around it or spit it out, started trying it when he was settled - or asleep with his mouth open. He would push it out of his mouth a few times but them tuck his tongue around it and suck I think they just need to get the hang of it, now you have to hold it in place for 15/30 seconds while he tries to push it out but then he starts to suck and it's fine. Spits it out when he falls asleep though.
I had to use one otherwise he would happily just sit playing on the boob all day long.

dottiek · 26/04/2016 12:55

Hi

A lurker and very occasional poster here. I do read every day but just don't post.

Re dummies, my dad wouldn't take 'normal' dummies, she gagged on them or spat them out. We have had success with Nuk and Nuby dummies though. They are shaped differently so think this is why. I have attached a picture of what the teat is like. I think Dr Brown ones might be this shape too?

The only place I have found Nuk and also the Nuby ones sold is larger boots stores.

HTH

Dottie

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dottiek · 26/04/2016 12:56

Haha I meant DD not Dad Blush

IndomitabIe · 26/04/2016 13:44

Sometimes DS2 screams around the dummy, but sometimes it's the only thing that'll soothe him. He won't comfort suck at the boob (he gets angry at the milk when he doesn't want it) so the dummy works then.

Mind you, he screams. You know if a baby cries you're supposed to feed it/change it/hold it and one of these things works. It doesn't work on DS2. He starts to grizzle and I have the audacity to offer a boob which sends him entirely over the edge and we have an hour of screaming. Not just crying, but full on high pitched screaming. And there is no calming him. Nothing works. DS1 was like this. I thought it was the reflux, but apparently not (DS2 is already on the gaviscon).

We didn't sleep very well last night. I think I got a total of 3 hours in several blocks. After the school run we went back to bed to try to top up. I think I managed 10 minutes before the screamathon resumed. Sad I am shit at babies. I make angry, unpleasant children. Why did I think this one might be different?

What can I do with him?

IndomitabIe · 26/04/2016 13:47

Sometimes DS2 screams around the dummy, but sometimes it's the only thing that'll soothe him. He won't comfort suck at the boob (he gets angry at the milk when he doesn't want it) so the dummy works then.

Mind you, he screams. You know if a baby cries you're supposed to feed it/change it/hold it and one of these things works. It doesn't work on DS2. He starts to grizzle and I have the audacity to offer a boob which sends him entirely over the edge and we have an hour of screaming. Not just crying, but full on high pitched screaming. And there is no calming him. Nothing works. DS1 was like this. I thought it was the reflux, but apparently not (DS2 is already on the gaviscon).

We didn't sleep very well last night. I think I got a total of 3 hours in several blocks. After the school run we went back to bed to try to top up. I think I managed 10 minutes before the screamathon resumed. Sad I am shit at babies. I make angry, unpleasant children. Why did I think this one might be different?

What can I do with him?

IndomitabIe · 26/04/2016 14:12

Phew, he wore himself out enough to feed. The app told me if didn't post, but it evidently did.

Do you think my childminder would take a 4 week old? I'm not cut out for this. (semi lighthearted statement).

marmiteandcheeseplease · 26/04/2016 14:32

Sorry to hear about lack of sleep and screaming DS2 indom. Could be linked to pain from gassiness if you have a strong let down? One of my latch issues with E is I also have fast letdown which causes her to slip off the nipple as she can't cope with the flow. Yesterday I made sure to do baby massage and bicycle kicks with E's legs to free up some of the trapped wind. We had a much better nights sleep and she would actually settle between feeds. She's also had about five mega poos since yesterday so its helped clear her out after 5 days of nothing.

E has also caught DD1s cold so now have a snotty as well as a Sicky baby, sometimes at the same time which is gross.

Have achieved nothing today other than hanging some washing up in the garden and I'm just out for a walk with E in the sling and it's started raining! Undoing my one achievement of the day

IndomitabIe · 26/04/2016 14:40

Wind might have something to do with it. I've tried the bicycle kick thing and massaging his tummy, but no results. He wouldn't burp overnight either, despite lots of effort on my part (he just fell asleep on my shoulder).

Does anyone know if I can use gaviscon and infacol together?

IndomitabIe · 26/04/2016 14:41

Or, if I use infacol with the night feeds (I don't give gaviscon overnight - I can hardly see straight to feed him let alone mixing up and spooning in gaviscon), and gaviscon in the day time?

QforCucumber · 26/04/2016 14:56

indom we give both,
, gp said its fine to give both in 1 feed but to not do then at the same time so I give infacol before every feed and gaviscon once on a morning and once on an evening - the gaviscon I give when swapping sides. Use a calpol syringe to feed it and he just licks at the syringe, he is supposed to have 2 syringes worth but anything more than one full one seems to work ok so I don't force the rest.

IndomitabIe · 26/04/2016 16:30

Ah, thanks Q. We use the calpol syringe too, or a weaning spoon if the syringe is in the steriliser.
He seems to burp well during the day, but struggles overnight. I'll try giving infacol tonight. Hopefully that'll be the golden combination.

IndomitabIe · 26/04/2016 16:30

Actually, infacol says it takes a few days to work, doesn't it? Maybe I should give it every feed...

Purpleprickles · 26/04/2016 16:53

Indom I'm clutching at straws here trying to be helpful but have you tried the tiger in the tree hold for wind? It's the one when they lay on your forearm and basically hang. Of an evening it is the only real hold that settles E and works well for tummy ache.

IndomitabIe · 26/04/2016 18:43

Thanks Purple, we have been trying that, but it's only as effective as anything else (sporadic & momentary). He calmed down for school run time and then has mainly slept since DS1's been home (so no nap for me!).

He's had a couple of infacol doses now thanks to Q, hopefully the infacol/gaviscon combo will do the trick.

DH has brought loads of chocolate home with him. It won't help me with feeling like a wobbly lump, but it'll help with the short-term issues!

Hopefully he's got his colicky-screeching session out of the way for today and we can have a peaceful evening.

Hope everyone else is doing ok.