March 2016: the one where Indomitable gives birth...

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I hope I haven't duplicated a new March thread in my sleep deprived state.. Went to reply and found thread was full!..

Nice weights!

When is the health visitor supposed to visit? I don't know when & where baby clinic is, I was planning on asking the HV when we were discharged from the midwives (a week ago - he's 17 days old).

I should ring the midwives and ask tomorrow.

Me, DS2's got some spots here too. And he's still peeling all over.

Sounds like bliss indom, I LOVE greys. Also, on the sore night-time legs thing...I'm hypermobile and used to get these 'growing pains' at night too. If that's what DS1 has I sympathise with him, it really is agony! I know you know him and he may well be putting it on a bit but I used to find it incredibly painful! My DD now has the same and I always give her calpol straight away and she goes back off pretty quickly then. I take the calpol to bed with me!

DS2 is in no kind of pattern at all day or night. Some nights are ok with 2-3 hour feeds and settled between, some are screamy. I'm doing surprisingly well at just 'going with it'.

Sorry I typed that hours ago but it only just posted.

Well done on the weight gain beaut and time. The HVs are supposed to see you between day 10-14 once your are discharged so you should chase them up.

Me all my babies have been spotty at 6 weeks. Nancy is a bit but not covered (yet!)

Indom my DS is a drama queen too and it is just like the boy who cried wolf. You have my sympathies!

Indom sounds great- am a big fan of Grey's!
Eleanor managed to sleep from 10-4 last night then settled about 5-7.30. It was lovely but unexpected! She's been quite sleepy today so am expecting last night to be a one off and she'll be up a lot tonight to make up for it.
MrsEls to carry on your game- you know you are sleep deprived when:

• you call your pets by your children's names (and visa versa)
• you put orange juice on your cereal instead of milk

Idom and Beaut another boy drama queen here. I've also had to do the cry wolf chat loads of times. I honestly don't know how ds would cope if he ever really hurts himself. Touch wood he won't.

Fab weight gain Time.

I caught up on a few Modern Family episodes today. I've never watched Greys but have heard it is excellent.

We had an ok night last night. E woke every three hours for food and then did lots of grunting in between and general pig like noises so none of us slept well. Today she has napped more than yesterday and has been smiling lots and really watching my face which has been so rewarding.

We also walked into our high st today in the sun which felt lovely. Long may the nice spring weather continue.

I have my health visitor coming tomorrow for our six week check. Idom our clinics seem to be at all the local children's centres. Do you have one near you?

You know you're sleep deprived when...

You pour apple cordial into a glass and top it up with milk instead of water .

Actually, I'm not even really sleep deprived. I have a genuine case of 'baby brain' (which I never believed in before). I think that now I have three I am constantly wondering where each one is/what they are doing and I can't concentrate on anything else. I keep stopping in the middle of conversations and forgetting what I was saying.

Eddy has decided that sleep is to be avoided at all costs today... His had about 50 minutes since waking up at 7.45 this morning. Only in the pram over a certain strech of bumpy pavement, even the magic sleepy dust slings haven't worked he just head butted and demaned to be fed! Lying next to him finally in dark quite bedroom hoping he'll properly drift off.

I love greys indom, would love to be allowed to sit and watch it. As it is I've only got half way through season 11 since Christmas in chunks of 15 minutes if I am lucky. Really noticed how difficult it is to find out what's going on and where since virgin took over. A simple google search used to show everything and info in the red book is out of date for the drop in clinics. My gps receptionist managed to track the info down in the end but it took her a while. Midwife had to chase the health visitor too to get hearing test booked in.

me eddy is spotty too but they are finally starting to clear. I think it must be hormonal as my skin is a dry spotty mess at the moment too.

time what lovely weight gain.

Jeebus, I really should have napped. I'm so tired now I could cry. doesn't help that DH is treating paternity leave like a jolly

Honestly, magpie, the noise he was making you'd think someone was amputating his leg. DH got up with him the first time, so when I was up with him next I didn't know if he'd had some calpol already. (DH slept through it, of course).

Purple - ironically when DS1 does actually hurt himself he doesn't put quite so much effort into the performance. Noise seems to be inversely proportional to actual damage.

Glad to hear that my DS isn't the only drama llama! (Even his teacher commented on it!)

Purple, our children's centre was taken over by a different charity on 1st April, and so far there seems to be no information at all on whether any local groups are on. I think there are groups in the other towns 20-30 miles away (and Big town), but the one here would be nice! Our health visitors are now run by Virgin, but can't find any info online either.

I'll ring the MLU tomorrow to see if they know what's up & what's on.

Ah, Dobby, being the same region, I expect I'll find the same issues with virgin here. bastard government selling off the NHS

I think I might have repeated myself a bit there, and got a bit confused. #sleepdeprivation

Wow - rory has just gone from 8-1 sleeping, typically i didjt go to sleep until half 10, and soke about 12 ish expecting him to be awake. Can't believe I could have got 5 hours - must take advantage of he's asleep that time tomorrow. I hope he does about get 5 hour stretch now but bet that's goo much to ask.
Went to our 1st mum and baby group today, then a nice stroll around the village where it was held - such a glorious day!

Great sleeping Q!

Really pleased to hear Calsis' and Nancy's weight gain Time and Beaut - they're really chunking up aren't they?!

I've woken to second leaky nappy in as many days. It's gone right through vest, sleepsuit and Woombie (and DH changed him at 11pm ish). Think we're going to have to move up to size 2s at least at night (or like someone else mentioned previously, maybe just getting pampers baby dry for nighttime). There's nothing worse than a full change at night pre feed. We'e been up 45 mins already and he's not finished feeding yet, snore!

Yesterday we had a particularly bad witching hour. Zach screamed for most of 7-9.30 and it would have been the majority of the afternoon had I not had him constantly in the sling except when he had boob in his mouth. He will not be put down in his Moses basket pretty much at all at the moment, he can be as asleep as poss (dropping arm test done etc) but as soon as you put him down he wakes and screams. He's sleeping fine in his cosleeper from 11/12pm until 6am ish (with a couple of wakes) but the daytime is exhausting. It doesn't help that DS1 has suddenly realised he has a sibling and that my attention is now shared (2.5 months after Zach came home) and is now behaving like a typical two year old....ignoring everything I say, running off, shouting in my face 'NO I WON'T' to everything I ask/say, over zealously kissing read head butting his brother, and generally being a bloody nightmare. Where has my gorgeous, well behaved boy gone? It makes me sad (and very tired!). Sorry, rant over! Just really feeling being a mum of two at the moment.

Just wondering if people are putting their babies to bed in their rooms yet or do you still have them downstairs with you in the evenings? I know with DS1 it was at about 6 weeks that we started trying to begin a routine where we would put him in our room after his bath etc. Zach is still very much in the living room on us for the evening, I want to start trying to get him upstairs But at the moment it seems completely unfeasible, just wk seeing what you're all doing?

missi we are also struggling with toddler tantrums and misbehaving at the moment. It's so tiring isn't it? As for bedtime routines, El is 5 weeks old and we don't have one yet. I think with DD1 if was maybe 8 weeks before we tried it? Basically when she started fussing and was unable to go to sleep on us downstairs. Will probably wait till then with E.

Up for third night feed, I can't actually remember the first one but I'm pretty sure there was one as I have a vague memory of struggling to stay awake during it! El has been very gassy tonight with lots of straining and farting and she did a massive poo at 2am but no leaks thankfully.

Hoping she sleeps now till at least half 6 but I've noticed as the night goes on she sleeps for shorter and shorter stretches so who knows. She's just settled in her cot at last so I should probably stop MNing and get some sleep!

wow I'm just finished the first night feed which means E slept from 11.30-4. It has to be a fluke but it was a lovely one!

Idom and Dobby- run by Virgin?? Crikey! I didn't know that had happened for some HV services. They run the trains I use to get to my parents and they aren't great at that. Idom does anyone else run baby groups in your area? I haven't made it to any yet but I'm quite spoilt for choice in London. I don't know why they all start at 10am though, I'm still struggling to be ready by then.

Missi sorry to hear that Z has been fussy. We had a day like that on Monday. It's hard with a sibling needing attention too. My ds was a total pickle at 2 and even though he didn't have a sibling would behave very similarly with lots of shouting and grumping.

We aren't starting a routine yet for bed but I think ds was about 12 weeks when we started putting him to bed before us.

Missi we have over zealous kissing/head butting here too! We will probably continue to keep J with us downstairs until he's in his own room. It's just easier that way but then I'm not really bothered about establishing a routine yet.

Hoping Q gets her 5 hour stretch and others sleeping well.

Had HV round for 6 week check and J is now 12lb. DP has done most the night shift tonight. He fed around midnight and is still asleep so doing well.

I put Cassidy to bed before us for the first time tonight, she settles fine in her Moses basket downstairs but wakes up when we transfer her upstairs so thought I'd try it to avoid that. She was a bit whingey so dh went up to change her nappy and she did a massive fart and a burp and then settled happily. We have no bedtime routine yet, I tend to bath her mid afternoon before ds comes home and don't give her a bath every day either,ds has quite sensitive skin which dries out quickly if he has daily baths so I'm a bit cautious with Cassidy.

missi the over zealous kissing and tantrums sound VERY familiar! To get DD to do anything takes about half an hour of persuasion. She's going to end up being yelled at a lot when DH is back at work and it's just me with 2 of them :( everything is a battle at the moment. I keep thinking maybe she needs more discipline, but I think what she actually needs is more support and understanding but it's SO hard!

Some good stretches of sleep, well done babies! 3 hours is still a v good stretch in the crisp household He's got a cold at the mo, so struggling with a blocked nose, poor thing. Have just snot suckered him.

purple I have no idea why all the playgroups start at 10am! There's is no way I'll be able to get us all out of the house in time. Wish there was an afternoon one...

Right better try to get the boy back to sleep...

I've started a sticker reward chart for DS1. He gets a sticker every time he does something for himself - things he could easily do before J arrived like taking himself to the toilet (suddenly he's scared of the bathroom) and getting dressed/ getting clothes from his bedroom (also now scared of his bedroom...in fact every room in the house!) If he gets 5 stickers he gets a reward of his choosing.

First reward was a trip to the park which we did yesterday. He has now suggested a trip to the pub! Which we were planning anyway to get food before his parents evening next week. Is it bad that I gently coerce him into choosing a trip to soft play that I'm planning anyway to avoid the rain on Friday?

Kudos to all those with 2+ children, baby Eloise and puppy who came into kitchen with his own poo in his mouth yesterday are more than enough here. And she is being easy - asleep from 12-5 last night for e.g. though we could do without the 7-10 crying/grousing. She settles well with a little finger to suck but that doesn't seem a great precedent and ties me/DH down to the sofa.

Well clearly in my excitement/sleepyness k lost the ability to spell/proofread and also became hugely self indulgent. My apologies.
Sadly no second long stretch, R slept 8-1, then 2-4:30 back to sleep at 5 and was then up for the day at 6:30.
purple up here Our local baby groups are ran at the church parish halls and are usually 12-2 or 1-3, and can take him to be weighed at a sure start centre any Wednesday - going to take him today as he was a month old yesterday so would like to know what he's measuring now.

missi I found moving up to size 2 stopped nighttime leaks - been in size 2 since he was a week old haha.

Morning all.

Good sleep there, Purple!

There are other groups, but these are aimed at older babies. I'm not sure there would be a lot of point going! There used to be a breastfeeding group that was a good place to meet people with small babies (run by children's centre), and the baby clinic/group where you're supposed to get them weighed (I think run by the HVs).

Yes, Missi, we had that kind of behaviour from DS1 at that age too, with no sibling added then. It's a difficult age.

I read about the leaky nappies when DS2 was feeding at 5ish. Thought that sounds like a right PITA, glad we've avoided it so far. Put him down, fell asleep, 10 minutes later he was grunting and griping. Yep, soaked through vest, sleepsuit, woombie & sheet. Will try the size 2 nappies tonight!

DS1 slept better (and thus was much more agreeable this morning), but we were up at 1:30, 3 & 5. I reckon I've had about 4 hours sleep in 3 batches.

And to join in the "you know you're sleep deprived when..." game: when my brain starts matrixing (seeing recognisable things in random patterns, like when people 'see Jesus' in their toast) and I see insects & other things (usually animals) out of the corner of my eye. It's not quite true hallucinations, but it is interesting!

Think we're going to move up into size 2s shortly. My little baby is growing up already!

rhu that's an excellent idea. I'm going to do a sticker chart for nappy changes for DD. I think she's almost ready for potty training but would be too much change for her the mo/too stressful for me!

We are just finishing up the last few of a packet of size 1s and then DS is going into size 2s as well, I've ordered some of the pampers baby dry ones for nighttime as well.

DS is a predictable little thing with night feeds at 2.30 and 5 last night. He doesn't seem to be showing any signs of wanting to go longer so I think we're in this for the foreseeable! He's 7 weeks tomorrow, my mum tells me I slept through at 7 weeks but it seems DS has not inherited this from me!

Missi we are still bringing the Moses basket downstairs in the evenings. It's only maybe 2 or 3 evenings out of 7 that DS will sleep in the evening, the others he will remain wide awake stubbornly until we are ready to go to bed anyway. The ones where he does sleep are bliss, it makes such a difference having a couple of hours of peace in the evening to eat dinner and watch TV without a grizzly baby. I almost think I'd rather keep going with the night feeds as long as I can get my evenings back!