Mugabe Nights: sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your (sleep deprived) pain!

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New thread ladies!
Buenos are still free, the bar tab is still open and you can leave your healthy living resolutions at the door!

Buy it fatty !

Dozy- pm'd you!

Sorry for the naff nights guys!

Fatty- Defo buy the pram mine was a £50 eBay bargain and I love it and is good as new!

So I'm going to sack off the personal trainer already after 1 session! 1. It's too expensive, 2. It's a 40 minute journey to that gym 3. Looking at my diary with mine and dh's shifts when I'm back at work I'll barely manage 1 session a week which clearly won't do anything! And finally I can't fucking walk after the first session!!! I don't mean I'm a bit sore I LITERALLY can't walk- can't put my heels to the ground unless I've been stretching trying to stand up for a good 10 minutes so I'm having to walk round the house on my tiptoes- if I didn't have to carry DS I would actually be crawling! I would actually rather go through labour again it's that painful- would be over quicker too!!! I've tried hot bath, heat patch, tiger balm, ibuprofen gel, freeze spray and paracetamol and I literally manage to hobble for a while then sit down and when I stand back up its excruciating and heels stuck up again!!! So yes instead I've found a very local gym at £20 a month and opens at 6am so I will actually fit it in plenty!

DS has woke up a snot monster today praying it doesn't disturb his sleep too much tonight- only had to get up 3 times last night although 1 too 1 hour 15 to resettle and my legs omg!!!

Crafty- we will still be here and now you've delurked feel free to post ocasionnaly should you want!

Effin- welcome back!

He's coming tomorrow with the pram! Now to buy a buggy board for DD

effin I have bf 5 DC so far who all co-slept and stopped feeding by 12 months, sleeping through - I assume (hopefully) that babyloves no. 6 will be no different and won't still be feeding all night age 3

giraffes great to know I am not the only one that doesn't like Aldi and Lidl - I quite like Morrisons too and Sainsburys with M&S for treats 😄

crafty hi🤗 - now you've posted no excuses to be shy - welcome - everyone is lovely here and very supportive

tindel good luck with the weaning workshop - I hate the mess with blw so have tried babyloves with some purées - gave her some pear at lunchtime which she loved and ate way more than I anticipated - she has been asleep in her Moses basket ever since - may need to force feed her pears before bedtime?!!?

coconut yeah to another non-Aldi lover!!

fatty have you tried your DD with a buggy board? I bought one when I had babyloves for toddler but she hates it - refuses to get on it now

Went to Mumafit again today - really enjoying it - bought a 10 class pass to ensure I keep going back - the only trouble is that I can't stop eating once I get home

loves I haven't yet, but she hates being in the pram now so it has to be a buggy board as I can't carry her if she gets tired.

lily that sounds horrendous - I admit I don't really do exercise, but it would have to be chiselling kilos off me to even attempt that!

Congrats on the pram fatty - I like good second hand bargains. Am eyeing up a jumperoo on gumtree. Tried J in my friend's and he seemed quite keen.

Weaning workshop was good - very blw focused. J had a meltdown towards the end, which set me off slightly. Ended up having a long chat with the nursery nurse running the session about sleep. She reckoned we are doing the right things, but suggested trying swaddling. Might give it a go tonight - I'm at my dance class and seeing as DH knocked over a pouch of expressed milk and wiped out half our stash, I think he needs all the help he can get!

Ooh Tindel no. Expressed milk is like gold dust. gutting. Enjoy dance class.

So pleased you got the pram Fatty. Nothing is more exciting than a bargain.

Crafty stay and chat. The more the merrier!!!

Big news from us - DS had a 1 hour nap in his cot today. Think the key to it is not to try. Just plonked him in there whilst I packed the nappy bag for us to go for a walk and he fell asleep. He was in his coat but our flat is not that warm so figured would be ok. An hour is a massive nap for him!!!

Effin welcome back. Sorry to hear you've been having a tough time but great to see you back at the bar. We are there a lot at the minute too.

Cause we're disorganised rebels we did pancakes today. DS seemed to like.

Cant remember who said it but YES to tired baby wanting boob/not boob/dummy/boob again/spit up/boob. Just go to sleep already. Speaking of which currently trying to feed DS to sleep so best go.

Laters magubeans

fatty, I obviously meant buy it, not but it! When will I learn to preview?

Impressed with your Ds for eating hummus everything. Ds has loved every thing I've given him (fruit & veg), but when I put a but if hummus on my finger for him to lick, he did not make a happy face.

I'm not laughing at you not being able to walk lily, I promise 😉

Not done a good job of keeping up today. After a bit of a slow start we ended up having a really busy one.
Food and sleep becon.
Hopefully the bar won't be too busy tonight.

Evening all!

Don't panic crafty, effin et al Mugabe Nights is the bar that never sleeps there will always be someone here to chat to!

fatty buy the pram! I got a second hand Bugaboo for about £50 once and it was the best thing I could have done, plus as someone else has already said you can always sell it on again.

lily poor you, its bad enough being in pain without having actually paid for the privilege! £20 gym membership sounds much better.

frolic hope your busy day was a fun one

joskar when grumpy 1 grew out of her high chair (which I presume is the point you are at as you are asking about the Hauck) we got one of these www.mothercare.com/Baby-Polar-Gear-On-The-Go-Booster-Seat--Elephants/799323,default,pd.html for her and it was brilliant. Much sturdier than most of the pocket high chair type things and was a great transition from high chair to normal dining room chair. Its still going strong for grumpy 2 also.

What's everyone doing for Valentines Day?? Please god let there be sleep involved...

Lily - I'm so grrrrr at your trainer. There's no way you should be feeling this bad. You did tell them your just grown an actual human baby right?! Glad you're sacking it off! The £20 gym sounds like a plan Stan!

Had my lovely friend fly up from south of the wall. Her one year old is the same friggin height as mini mzzzf - wtf?! My first (extended) play date I've had at my house, and the first time I've been out with another mum and baby! 😁 What can I say, I'm a slow burner!

mzzzf there's not much difference between my 2 year old and my 6 month old DD is a tidge
slow if money allowed I would have bought the bugaboo donkey this time round. Unfortunately I'm skint so my mum bought my pram and I couldn't ask her to spend so much on one, as she doesn't have a lot of money either.

Thanks for advice and reassurance giraffes and loves I don't really want to do sleep training, and while things seem to be very slowly becoming less shit I probably won't bother. But when the anxiety monkeys are flying I can believe that I must have it all sorted right now or we'll be doing this for ever. loves did you just wait until yours grew out of it or did you refuse feeds or otherwise try to persuade your dc's to sleep longer at some point?

Nice barge in on the pram Fatty!

lily surely the point of a personal trainer is to target exercise at an appropriate level, not to actually kill you?! I went to amazing small group personal training before ds was born - first time in my life I've really loved exercising and learning how to use my body better - but very sadly she died. Although we weren't mates she had such a deep impact on me, I really miss her.

Blw today involved smacking toast + humus into the table, followed by banging toast and baked sweet potato, and then smacking spoons of blueberry yogurt so it sprayed everywhere. Not sure anything was ingested, but it looked fun (and meant I got to eat the yummy yogurt)

Tindel- glad the chat with the nursery nurse went well, sleep is such a vital thing it's easy to start thinking your doing something wrong when your missing out on it yourself, nice to be reassured!

Kbro- yesssss with the cot nap and what a long one! DS literally is a 30 minute napper to the second! I think your onto something with the not trying though- early hours of this morning I waited till DS stopped moaning and kicking and then left him to it- staring at the lights of the monitor camera and he fell asleep himself (slightly irritating when I'd spent over an hour rocking/stroking/patting!) and he's just done it again now at bedtime wow!!! That is a major first for him!!

Frolic- hope your busy day was a good one- laugh away at me someone may as well be laughing- although DH was too last night when he filmed me trying to stand up taking about 10 minutes and then pushing me over again!!! Bastard!

Everything- another hummus fan here which in pleased with as we love it too!

Mzzf yeah he knew I was post natal but he's an old school friend and also knows I'm used to training so I think got carried away, I think the extreme pain is from 1 particular exercise we did that I think targeted a part of my calves I have never worked in my life before because the pain is in 1 specific area and my thighs and everything else are fine despite having lifted quite heavily on them too. But you are right in saying it's ridiculous to be in such pain and I don't even know why I thought I'd try a PT- Ive done it myself before diet and exercise for my wedding I know what works for me so in going to go back to exactly that! That was the other thing I didn't like he was an advocate for 16:8 intermittent fasting but I can't cope without breakfast and eating 2 hourly Elisha realistic with a baby or even at work in my job! Anyway just dispatched DH to mcds for a naughty naughty tea to celebrate sacking the pt!! Hahaha! I'll start again on Monday now I know what my plan is!

Fatty yay for the pram! I love the buzz a bargain gives you!

Effin so sad about your pt. Blw sounds fun especially the yoghurt eating!

Hoping DS has another good night as although S L O W L Y improving legs are still ouchy, he's a cold and a tooth cutting though sink won't hold my breath!!!

Dd1 has refused to go in a highchair since she was one. Mostly she sits on our laps or an ordinary chair but her nose just touches the table top so it's not great. At first she was in a box thing Dh made her (a home made little helper thing) but now dd2 is in there on her bumbo (seriously, it's a health and safety nightmare in this house!). Anyway I bought the hauck. Dd1 and Dh made it up this evening and she loves it. Dd2 will go in the Antilop when I can be arsed with weaning

I know it seems like if you are doing something now it will always be that way but truly it isn't the case. Bairns change so, so much at this stage. It's pretty much guaranteed that everything they are doing right now will be totally different to what they'll be doing in a year. Or six months even. Anything that doesn't work for you in the future you just change. You don't need it all sorted now. Do what works for now and change it if and when you need. Nothing is set in stone.

loves what do you do with the kids when you go to a class? I really struggle with this. I do Pilates on a Friday morning but it means Dh taking the morning off.

Anyone watch the Good Wife?

Sorry had a crazy day so sorry for not responding to those who have pm'd me today. I'm a cap person to be administered but I'll try my best 😂

Still feEling overwhelmed by life as a mum and a grown up. Had a good cry again this evening. Hoping things start improving soon because I was absolutely loving motherhood to begin with but right now I'm thinking what the hell was i thinking being desperate for one, it's too hard. A part of me always thought I'd be a great mum where as the other part of me thought I'd be a terrible mum.because I prefer being looked after than doing the looking after if u know what I mean. So at the moment I'm in the I'm a crap mum frame of mind. I know I'm not but that's just how I feel at the moment.

Crafty penguin don't just lurk :) you should join in 😊😊

dozy trust me, we've all been there! DS1 is seven and sometimes I think "this shits too hard, why did I do this and why on earth did I have more?!"
It will be OK. As you said, you know you're not a crap mum. If you were, you wouldn't worry about being a crap mum!

, and for you dozy - know how you feel. A particularly charming ex told me I'd be a terrible mum because I'm too neurotic and selfish and I hear them say that every so often. You are a fab mum. The hard bits make it harder to enjoy at times, but it will pass and you will enjoy it again.

Only one visit to the bar last night! Yay! The result was being up for the day at 5:45. Anything before 6am is very wrong IMO. In the process of trying to get him back to sleep we have mastered lying down feeding for the first time. Woohoo! The extra head control developed by now really helps.

Valentine's Day won't be celebrated chez frolic slow. I try to live by the principal that you should show love and appreciation every day. apart from when he's being a soak wanker

Those anxiety monkeys are cunts effin. They made me but some fenugreek last week. It definitely resulted in more milk, but Ds never slept any better and I ended up awake with engorged boobies. Don't listen to them!

Very envious of your maccy d's lily. I don't pass much now I'm not working. I could murder a sausage and egg mcmuffin right about now.
I hope the legs are better today.

dozy 💐💐
My friends keep telling me that 3-6 months are the worst bit. You're out if that newborn high and baby is struggling with teething, mobility etc. I can't say that I've enjoyed the past few months anywhere near like I did the first 3. Hopefully things will start to feel more fun soon. Ds is certainly in a better mood now he can roll to where he wants to go.
And it is bloody lovely to be the one being looked after. It's a big change to be responsible for a little human ALL THE TIME. We get a day off from every other job we've had.
Don't be too hard on yourself missus - you are rocking this mum stuff and the transition shock is totally normal.

That's probably why he's an ex tindel. Twat.

Yes, yes to joining in an posting rather than just lurking.

First nap if the day has commenced. Zzzz's to catch for me too I think.
Happy Friday mugabeans 🙂

Morning Mugabeans - we have a sprinkling of snow this morning☃🌨

dozy it is very hard being a mother but you're doing great. Everyone has a moment when they wonder if they're doing things right - I struggle with the teenage years now as never done it before - learning every day - but the good moments more than make up for it

joskar the classes I go to are called Mumafit and you take the DC with you. The girl that takes them was a fitness instructor for 15 years then had children and realised it was a struggle for mums to go and exercise with children so set up these classes - it's amazing - the DC just sit and watch / join in. It's only 30 mins of really intense exercise so not too long and you can even exercise holding baby. Everyone's in the same boat so no tutting if DC making a noise etc - the noise of music drowns them out anyway. I've been going for a month now and really enjoying it

lily hope you are more mobile today!

effin I gradually started refusing feeds in the night but wait until they are taking in more food during the daytime. It's definately a comfort thing during the night but I hate them crying and it's easier just to snuggle in with a boob - I know it's not forever so it suits me fine but know it's not for everyone.

It's started snowing again - hope it stops very soon as getting my nails done at 10am and hate taking car out in bad weather!!

Hi all,
I posted here months ago but just been lurking since as have found the past few months very difficult! It really is reassuring to hear that others feel the same. I feel like we are beginning to slowly turn a corner finally so wondered if I could join in?

Fatty glad you got the pram, I've bought a few second hand things and it's perfect as often can resell on later for the same you bought it for!

Slowwife not sure about Valentine's Day yet, thinking maybe just going out for a quick lunch-anyone else got exciting plans?

Dozy I know exactly how you feel and I think so many mummies feel this way but just don't express it. I think the first 6 months are the worst so hopefully better for us all now on 😀

Frolic we have been up since early this morning too, yawn.

Love wow snow I'm very jealous, just icy here. I do love snow. Mumafit sounds like such a great class! Enjoy getting your nails done!

You're doing a great job Dozy, you've had your mountain to climb with the BF and even without that it's bloody hard work. I think we all have moments of doubt and just knowing you're not alone can help. Hope you're feeling more positive now

For Valentine's DP bought me a posh new notebook - and gave it to me already as it arrived from Amazon with some other stuff and he couldn't be bothered to wrap it, oh the romance

Kbro is it possible Aiden napped so well because he was in a coat (i.e warmer than usual). We're big rule breakers on the baby sleeping temperature thing, Alex likes to be toasty.

Oh gawd I need to start exercising but I have zero motivation and even less time.

Welcome back Effin! I did wonder where my project nap buddy had gone. Good to see you again.

Also welcome to the lurkers, please do post - the more the merrier.

Hope everyone is having a fab Friday. I did an early shift at work and now heading to see my friend with a 3 week old to dispense my oh-so wise words. In her eyes I'm a pro at this baby thing 😂

Happy Friday all! J is currently fast asleep on me in the sling after music class.

frolic feeding lying down has been a lifesaver for us, it's currently how I get J to sleep at night. And yes, ex is an ex for many reasons and twatty behaviour.

loves hope you got your nails done. I'm not really a manicure person, but I must get round to booking a massage at some point - I could really do with some pampering

Happy Friday and happy 6 months to DS. Bloody hell - how????

Clstow I was thinking that too. DH never feels the cold and has got me used to it too. Wonder if upping the heating a bit may help.

Dozy and tindel have some drinks in the bar on my tab. It is one hell of a roller coaster this motherhood malarkey. But as I saw on another thread remember 'you are awesome, your doing great and this too shall pass'.

Loves the fitness class sounds great. Wish there was something like that near me.

Valentines- me and DH have a date night on Saturday. Less for valentines, more because my friends mum is visiting so can have her kids meaning friend has offered to have mine. Pre DS I used to baby sit for her a fair bit and she has been desperate to return the favour. Been a bit reluctant cause DS is such a pain in the arse tricky in the evenings but she promises me she doesn't mind so we are going out for dinner. Not a massive valentines person but a box arrived yesterday - v big and apparently it is my present. Now spending all day on Amazon trying to find a present. Kind is assumed we'd just do the dinner as presents. Oops.

Thinking of trying DS with some fish this weekend. Exciting.

Nearly weekend o clock everyone. We've rocked another week.

Kbro we have that weaning set! Lily hope you feel better soon! Loves enjoy the pampering. I was meant to get a massage before we were all felled by hand foot and mouth! AF came today as well!

Have a good weekend all!