Mugabe Nights: sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your (sleep deprived) pain!

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New thread ladies!
Buenos are still free, the bar tab is still open and you can leave your healthy living resolutions at the door!

Cows milk is fine in food. Otherwise how could they have cheese? Everybody loves cheese!

fatty i love that...i for one could not function without cheese. just wanted to add some to his porridge to up his poor milk intake. hope ur feeling better. slo work is horrible i just want to be at home with my little squidge all day long..but its sort of bearable looking for something slightly less stressful tho. slo hope you get everything sorted with grumpy 1.

Kbb you can just add BM or formula before six months

Yo!
Just popping in quickly. The cold hasn't really developed much. We ended up having quite a productive day. I do feel very run down at the moment - a combination of a year of hyperemesis, poor diet, womb infections, bf'ing, poor sleep etc, etc, etc.

Ds slept well upstairs all evening. We've been watching making a murderer. I think we're slowly reclaiming our evenings. We have a video monitor, and I'm facinated at how many times he stirs. This is where thumb sucking comes in very handy. I was majorly against it to start with, but I'm pretty glad of it now 👍🏻

Can't remember who said what.
A sleep consultant does sound like a bit of a waste of money. But, babies need to learn to sleep, and if you can pay someone to help guide you with teaching them, and you can afford it, I can't see it being a terrible thing. Each to their own. Snake oil made me lol.

Brilliantly link kbro. Very funny. Barry white noise has totally tickled me.

Gorgeous pic fanby.

Good luck with the school loves. She is lucky to have you on her side.

I hope everyone else is ok. I've left my glasses downstairs, so replying is one-eyed and taxing.

Yippee for Friday night 🙂

Evening all.

I'm ordering a round of White Russians at the bar, who's in? Then I think we could do with a pamper so I've booked a dozen places at the beach spa

Slow hope you get a happy resolution on your dd with school. I'm both excited and very sad that mine will start in September, where did my baby go? Where did my sweet little 2yo go?

I'm up as baby giraffe and I have a cold, so blocked noses and sore throats. I've given her calpol as my throat was in dire need of paracetamol so I'm guessing she felt pretty crap too. She's also had some nighttime pooey nappies so maybe her digestion has gone haywire too, even I got pooed on which is a rare treat these days vs the newborn phase.

Frolic you poor thing. I was commenting to dh about my concerns that I feel quite weak physically recently and sometimes when I wake up my joints ache or when I stand up I'm a bit wobbly at first. He told me I'm just getting old I think pregnancy/babies can be physically exhausting though.

kbro Sleep consultant?! I'd like to see one, I'm definitely short of it. Seriously though, I think you're doing a great job and babies can take time to adjust to sleeping for longer periods. It's all up and down, I'm not a fan of cry it out/controlled crying but if you feel at the end of your tether then it's better to do that than lose the plot iyswim. My dd1 was a crap sleeper as a baby but now she's age 4 she sleeps the whole night, though she's never slept as much as the 'experts' recommend.

My favourite paediatrician/child expert is Dr Sears, he always has really reassuring and kind advice: www.askdrsears.com/topics/health-concerns/sleep-problems/31-ways-get-your-baby-sleep-and-stay-asleep

Arrrggghhhhh!! You know that thing, when someone tries to help you, but they end up making it worse?
Dh always askes if I want him to pick Ds up when he wakes in the night. Very lovely, but not a good idea as Ds is used to mainly co-sleeping with just me. Ds woke at 4:30 and as I was sorting out my pillows to feed, dh got up and lifted him out of the crib. Cue lots of excitement from Ds, who was impossible to re-settle and is now up for the day.
I really don't want to be angry with dh, because he was only trying to help. But for fuck sakes!
I can't decide weather this means I should make him sleep with us more often ban him from the bedroom completely 😜

Get well soon giraffes and baby. Being ill is shit.
I definitely feel like I'm too old and that pregnancy / having a baby has broken me.

giraffes we also have colds here. ds must have atleast 1 a month. i think he must be getting used to them now as this once hasn't seemed to bother him much. magrat we use anti reflux milk so its a bit too thick to mix with anything.

Got a poorly baba although she seems happy enough. Had a red lump on her ear, thought she'd been lying on it funny but it was still there later in in the day so rang the doctors. Luckily the squeezed me in at the end of the day. She had a temp of 39 when he checked it and I'd not even realised! So she's in antibiotics and regular calpol as I can't get her temp down. Was 39 again this morning and 38 post calpol and stripped off to just her nappy. He said it was soft tissue infection on her ear but he wants me to ring back in Monday and leave a note to let him know how she's been over the weekend because he's worried about her! Thought that was a but unusual. I've never had to report back before. Not met him before so perhaps he's just a nice caring doctor. They are few and far between in gp surgeries.

Question about wet nappies. How often do u change your child's bum? As piper doesn't poo regularly I'm perhaps more aware of her wee but in the day shes hardly that wet at all so I can actually leave a nappy on all day. Even the reusable I had on yesterday wasn't full when I changed it. Overnight she wees me because she has 2 bottles, one at 7pm and one at 10 pm. The rest of the time she feeds off me. Perhaps she's not feeding enough from me. She feeds really well first thing in the morning but that still wearing her nighttime nappy, then I change her for the day and unless she's poos I haven't needed to change her till her bedtime nappy. I'm thinking that part from the morning feed she mustnt be taking much from me in the day. It's not like I ignore her crying or anything, she's perfectly happy. Maybe I just need to try to feed her more often in the day even though she's not crying for it. She's very inquisitive so she must get distracted in the daytime where there's more interesting things going on.

Sorry this has been a bit of 'me me me' post.

Oh no dozy. I hope Piper is better very soon. Poor lamb and poor you.
We get through quite a few nappies in the day. Every 4ish hours for disposables and every 3ish for cloth. If I forget he often gets soaked through.
When he wee'd on me in massage last week, I was really surprised how much there was.

Ah I see kbro sorry! Dozy I usually get five to six wet nappies a day but the morning one is always heavy. Then I just change either before a feed or a nap. But DH is Ff so might be different to bf. Oh I hate colds. Took DS to he gp last week as I was worried but he thought it was viral. Seems better now but still sniffly. And I've just started sneezing... Aww DS is just staring and bashing his elephant. Deh! He's just started watching the cat lately which I think has got the cat a bit concerned! We went in the proper seat bit of the pushchair the other day. How fast is time going?!

Bashing his elephant has got to be the dirtiest phrase I've ever heard!! 😁

Yay for DHs being here and a little lie in on Saturday! Poor Mr Frolic though, he got it so so so wrong bless him.

Ladies you/we are all a bit broken as the beautiful pregnancy hormones are only just leaving our bodies now to be replaced with....pain! Such fun!! Not specifically super pain but it can vary from mild ouch to needing painkillers.

Balls have to go! Back later x

Argh, yes yes to feeling broken. My back and wrists often ache from holding DS and feeding. I also feel run down all of the time at the moment due to poor sleep.

Last night was not great. Up every 90 mins. Night before was the same, But also got a three hour stretch from 4am. How can it be so variable? Just refused Nap and couldn't keep trying to settle upstairs when home alone with DD, so we came back down. Might need to try for sling nap but sometimes you just don't want them on you 24/7. Sleep still driving me crazy.

Am wondering whether to try weaning earlier. Was going to wait another three weeks ish. Might just get the high chair out and let him play with a spoon and stuff for now. Get him a bit involved with meals.

Dozy DS still HATES weeing in his nappy, so we change him about every 2h. If I were leaving him until his nappy was full to overflowing I guess we'd only need to change him maybe 2 or 3 times. But he's grumpy if he's wet, and fusses at the breast and whines while playing.

Magrat DS is obsessed with the cats lately, too. He keeps smiling at the big old ex feral one, clearly desperate to make friends. Suspect he may be about to learn the devastating lesson that not everyone will love him. :(

Very jealous of all the ladies getting a weekend lie in. DP goes to the pub with workmates on a Friday and somehow magically sleeps through DS waking up on Saturday. :(

First night for DS in "baby prison" (a cot with four sides) went okay. I had trouble putting him in without waking him at first because it was right beside the bed, but it was fine once I moved it so I could stand. DS was contentedly playing with the bars when he woke up instead of trying to throw up on me, definitely an improvement. I think he might self settle better with me out of reach.

Quick reply to dozy. We get through 5-6 (cloth)nappies in a 24 hour period. We don't change overnight any more so that one goes from 7pm-7am with extra boosters and is full to bursting. During the day I change her every 3 hours or so (like frolic) and they are always wet but not overflowing. If I stretch her out to 4 hours between changes I occasionally get leakage .

Oh dozy hope piper is on the mend soon. But that does sound like you have found yourself a nice gp there.

Wet nappies wise DS is not in the least bit sensitive to wet nappies so we could go a while without changing. Cloth nappies need changed about every 2 hours but disposable can go along time before leaking. Maybe 5 hours (although unless we are out and about and I forget then I change every 3 hours) I do sometimes also worry about whether he is getting enough milk from me as he doesn't leak often.

My current worry is ds hasn't had a poo since Monday. He seems to be getting more and more uncomfortable. Tried to give him some cooled boiled water last night but he was not interested at all. Will try the Orange tip today.

Huge thanks for the support about the sleep trainer. DH has agreed to drop it about the sleep trainer and agreed to just need to keep on keepin on with him. Slow my DH is exactly like that. Likes to 'fix' everything and I think is struggling with the fact DS can't be tinkered with and fixed easily. Giraffes that peice is v nice and reassuring.

Slow I am v shocked children so young are put in sets. It seems mad. Besides which a year is a long time in a 4 year olds life. How on earth can they know where is child will be a 3,4,8 months? Not that I would ever do it but there was a v interesting interview nadia swahla (totally not spelt like that) about why she home educates. She was saying much the same. Her child was showing signs of stress and unhappiness due to pressure in class. Having an August baby I'll fight to keep DS back a year if I feel he is not ready to start when he has only just turned 4.

Swimming today. Please DS do not have a weeks worth of poo in the water. Please!!

Afternoon! Another crappy night here but Ds2 has a blocked nose and a cough that is waking him up so I can't get too cross. I got dh up at 7.45 and went back to bed. I woke up naturally at 10.30 it was great to wake up with a baby screaming or ds1 telling me too.

Dosy sorry to hear piper is unwell. Hope she's better soon. Good to know there are still some caring GPs around though.

Bashing his elephant!

You lot! Totally didn't mean it like that!! Just got my hair cut and found out my hairdresser is 31 weeks Pregnant! How unobservant am I!! To be fair she has a really little bump. Eek just put DS's cot in his own room as we all keep waking each other up. Pleased to get room back but sob! Not at all sure how tonight will go...

Good luck tonight maGra!

Dozy that sounds like a minimal amount of weeing. Mini mzzzf is ff but in the morning her nappy is bulging and super full if I've not changed overnight. And during the day I do about 4-5changes. I don't wait until totally full to change in the day but I don't do it after every wee either. Hope she gets over her little infection soon!
Will do more later as currently cooking (another dirty!) dinner for DH and I. But soon I'll be on bedtime duty again! X

Hey hey, how is everyone? I'm enjoying having a night in on my own as DP is out with his friends and I'm nackered after a busy few days with work and a friend's birthday meal out last night. The reason I'm enjoying it so much is we now have Sky which means a bazillion channels to chose from - weird coincidence that it's been installed just in time for DP's parental leave hey?!

Can't remember who said it but I agree that MzzF should write a Mummy blog. I'm often laughing (in a good way) at the things you say, you've got an ace turn of phrase.

Glad you're making progress with the school Slow, hope the meeting goes well on Monday.

Frolic a 4:30 start is not ideal - your DH owes you a lie in tomorrow!

Hope baby giraffes, Peachy and Piper are feeling better.

Dozy Your GP sounds amazing by the way, definitely a keeper. I change DS about every 3 hours in the day, and if he wakes overnight I have to change him too or his nappy leaks by morning. He's FF now though, and I think FF babies are supposed to wee more than BF.

to elephant bashing Magrat! We've been clicking the pushchair up to the seated position so DS can see out more when he's out and about, I feel the same wondering where the time has gone!

Hope you have a better night Rra.

Unrequited love at such a young age Siani? Hope the feral cat falls for your DS's charms in the end.

How did the swimming go Kbro? Did the pool turn yellow?! Just to throw my two-cents in about the sleep consultant - I know two people who've used them, and both say it saved their sanity as their babies started sleeping after. However, both also admitted they weren't told anything they couldn't read/research themselves and it was just having someone to tell them what to do that ultimately made the difference. Sounds like you're not going down that route anyway, but just wanted to chuck that in to the mix.

Hope Mugabes is quiet tonight, fingers crossed for lots of sleepy babies.

First night in cot in own room went well until this morning. Got up to feed him and he wouldn't resettle about 6. Despite DH saying he was going to let me lie in, he wouldn't get up. Insisting we should just ignore him so we shift his bedtime. Erm that's not how it works. So no lie in for me. Had a massive go but he's just asleep up there. I know I just shouldn't expect the help. So annoyed though. Harumph.

Magrat I'd be FURIOUS with him!! I've been known to just dump the baby into bed with DP if he has said he'll take him in the morning. If it's so easy to convince a baby to lie in, he can obviously handle it.

Morning all

Dozy I change nappies every three hours or so during the day, unless there's a poo. I'm just going on to size 4 as overnight size 3+ is getting very heavy. I use the Pampers Baby Dry which seem great. Maybe worth checking with the HV? As long as you're well hydrated she should be receiving enough breast milk, plus she has the bottles I think?

mzzf that's interesting about the pregnancy hormones, I'm definitely broken (but I'm sure a two went holiday with lots of sleep and a spa in the Caribbean would fix me ;-)

raa I haven't found weaning improves sleep unfortunately. I've started as only a week until six months old! But once they can have some 'heavier' food after six months maybe that will help...now she likes sweet potato, carrot, asparagus and today I'm going to try her on avocado.

magrat poor you! I'm still waiting for my break too, got pil coming for lunch today so hopefully some time around 5pm once they've gone I'll get half an hour with my book who would've thought a few years ago that having half an hour with a book in bed would be such a precious and rare commodity haha.

Does anyone else with older ones find they misbehave for their dad but behave well during the week with mum? My four year old is terribly behaved with dh at the weekends but during the week she's an angel...very strange behaviour.

Hello! I'm back from yesterday's 4am start hell. I tried to go to bed at 8 last night, but Ds was so over tired and bonkers that he woke every 20 minutes until midnight, then every 2 hours 😴 Dh made up for yesterday's 'help' by taking him so I could have a lie in this morning.

Funny for you mentioning babies looking at cats. Ds is currently obsessed with frolicdog. He watches her all the time, talking away. When she comes into a room, she gets the biggest smile of all. It's clear that he now recognises the sound of her feet and can anticipate where she will appear from. Lovely developmental stuff. She is still very weary of getting close to him.

Lol at elephant bashing 🐘

Interesting stuff about the hormones mzzf. I am feeling like a 90 year old at the moment. Sore, stiff and most definitely broken.

I used the calpol syringe thing to get water into Ds kbro.

Kill him magrat - your defence is rock solid.

Right, happy Sunday augmums. We're off in search of some nice shops and good food.

Quick question - DS still hasn't pooed. Am supposed to be off out for a few hours with some friends this afternoon. As I am shit at expressing he always has formula when am away. Do you think is ok to give him formula on a weeks worth of poo?? Am stressing about this now. He normally goes every day.

Sorry very me me me post.

No idea about the formula kbro. But lying on his back, playing with his socks / feet is a good position for getting Ds going. Might be worth a try? Ds has just done 2 days worth of whippy poo into my hand as I was changing him after lying like that for 5 mins 💩