Our babies are teething, screaming and generally not sleeping, but we're still JS-ing - it's Just Mumming 10!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 10th Just Mumming thread...following the trials and tribulations of our babies, following the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 43rd grads thread is here

The thread we have graduated from is HERE in its 56th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

The previous Just Mumming thread is HERE

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

I've got a tonne of TT bottles also if anyone wants them!!

Hooray for sleep jelly!

Possible pud but gx its not. I had loads of phantom periods before I actually got the real thing!!

Oh okay thanks Rpopz, maybe I am just angry! Ha ha.

Let's do a swap Jelly, I'll PM you. I think the general advice is to pump after the first morning feed. I usually get about 2.5oz after 20 mins. I hoping for more with the swing. I am having a bit of a supply issue at the mo though. Struggling to have enough on the nights where I do all the feeds and the massive oversupply on the alternate nights when we give her a bottle. So I might try pumping on the evenings that she has a bottle to even it out a bit as my boobs do not know whether they are coming or going! This will then hopefully increase supply for 'my' nights.

I also have a ton of TT bottles that we didn't touch.

Scary night for you snap! All ok now and calmed down?

What do you mean by phantom AF popz? I have had the odd cramp going on down there and I am a ball of moody sometimes (mainly at DH) so was wondering it it was related. Hope it's not for you though pud, that would be so unfair!

Did you have to wake the boy up cookie? Sounds like a good sleep!

Sounds like a sleeping victory there jelly! Hope it continues! One of the two girls in my NCT group that struggled with bottles said she just had to offer every day for months before the baby finally got it. She just kept doing it every afternoon, mostly refused, until she slowly came round. The other one still won't take a bottle though so it can go either way! With her though the baby sleep well at night so we just do things after baby bed time so she doesn't miss out completely. Plus, now we are all weaning you can buy a bit more time.

We have just got J down for a nap for the first time today. He's a terror and now has a cough that is keeping him up!

I would get PMT and that crampy full feeling like AF was about to arrive, but never actually get the bleeding. For a good few months that happened before I actually got a proper AF!

As if I tempted fate, I got blood on wiping today. But nothing since except a really weird feeling when weeing now - like something is in the way. She's coming back and I hate it! I wasn't her fan when TTC and I certainly don't want to see her now.

Eugh. Hope it's not AF Dulcet.

A takes a bottle. Which is just as well or she'd blooming starve. My nipples and her mouth are not a match made in heaven. I still offer so she doesn't reject the nipple but I mostly give her formula at the moment and express as often as I can. Yesterday my supply had gone from 1oz per session to 2oz per session so hoping if I keep it up then I can increase my supply. I don't really want to end up pumping in the middle of the night though, so just do it often (approx 4x) during the day.

I just get a bit precious about actually using it though. As I am so paranoid about wasting it.

Hi everyone! Can I pull up a chair?

Got a freshly cooked DD feeding away, born yesterday 1.43pm, 8lb2oz.

Already got latching issues and my nips are in shreds you would have thought I'd be more clued up second time around...

Bullocks. Just typed reply and lost it!

carrot have you spoken to a lactation consultant? Congrats on your little girl btw.

dulc gx it's not the witch.

Thanks jelly. She's less than a day old, so no. We are already home, but a MW is coming to visit today, so I'll ask then. I did have the same with DS, and it got better, but it's just bloody frustrating that I'm having same issues again.

Hi carrot congrats!

dulcet bad AF, tell her to leave you alone!

Morning!!!!! Congratulations carrot and honey!

Snap how terrifying and awful!!! How is he doing now?

Popz 'I did I baby!' is still my favourite birth announcement! You'd vanished for a few days beforehand too, so it was even more dramatic.

Jelly it's a good idea to get them used to occasional bottle earlier rather than later, so you have a bit of freedom. B took one early on but wouldn't take very much from it at first. Now though he hoofs it down. You can try a cup if they won't take a bottle. I find expressing in morning gives the most milk. I have him in same room while I'm expressing to help. Try the mam bottles again - it can take a few attempts for them to get the hang of it.

How's it going with the in laws cookie? So glad E is eating again! That tooth is probably the reason he was a bit off, bless him.

Pud on the nights when you give a bottle do you pump at same time feed would normally be? If not then that might be your problem.

Carrot how are you getting on? Nipple in shreds is quite normal at start! Might be worth asking to have her checked for tongue tie though if it's hurting. How'd your older wee one doing with the new arrival? How are you feeling?

Date night was good but we did sit in a pub cooing over pics of our baby. Saddos. It was fun though and I felt better about things. We had a nice bottle of Bordeaux, a massive curry and I had a glass of champagne. Yum

I've got to go to work today for a kit day. DM is here to look after B. He's still not sleeping in his cot very well after all the colds and our little weekend away. He's also got horrendous dribble rash under his chin which he scratches in his sleep and it wakes him up. Took him to clinic yesterday and they gave us cream to use on it. I'm dreading DM going because she lets me sleep the first half of the night while she looks after B, so I get s few hours sleep.

Ok - so my af hasn't come back yet and we want to start JSing again towards end of summer. I'm 36 this year and it look us 2 years to conceive B. I'm thinking I probably need to stop breastfeeding - to bring back af and also because I could do with a break before a 2nd pregnancy. Has anyone done this? I'm really sad at the thought of stopping bf but also relieved because it's been a long hard slog for us.

Just wasted 3oz of breast milk :( every time I put the teat in her mouth she pulled a disgusted face, spat out the milk and rooted for boob. It was only expressed yesterday and smells fine.

Glad date night went well la :) no advice on the bf'ing thing but good luck!

Welcome Carrot and congrats :-)

Hurray for a night out La

Oh and Jelly you probably need someone else to give her the bottle as she knows you have boobs.

My grandad tried purple and she did the same. I'll try again tomorrow (with smaller amounts...)

Thanks viroids.

DS is still with ILs, he stayed there overnight and they are bringing him back this afternoon. We are very intrigued how he'll react to the baby :)

La if you still want to BF why don't you try to night wean first and see if it works. I did when DS was 6,5m and got AF about 6-7 weeks later (wasn't intentional, it was out of desperation for him to sleep).

la mine came back at 11months after I cut down in bf a bit, it wasn't a lot..I dripped an afternoon feed and it seemed to start it off

La, my GP told me that if P goes 6 hours between night feeds then I would likely be fertile. She wanted me to know this in case we had sex. HA HA FUNNY JOKE DOCTOR LADY. Ahem.

Honey, I know it is a PITA but it is important to either feed or express at least once between midnight and 6am in order to build up supply. Definitely call one of the helplines and get someone in to help you ASAP. I was all British and 'not wanting to bother people' when I started feeding P, bit I am a div and ended up screaming when she latched on through pain - idiot. If I had my time again I would be all over the BFing support like a rash. When I eventually did get help P's latch improved massively.

Jelly I will send you that bottle ASAP. It might be worth leaving the room when someone else gives R a bottle. Have you tried warming it slightly too? And get some storage bags and store in 1oz portions. Wasted boob milk is the WORST but thinking positively the more you express the better your supply will be.

Hi Carrot, welcome and congratulations! Sympathies for the nipple pain - ouch? Can you access some help too? Tis all about the latch. And the lansinoh.

Poor P not happy this afternoon. She got quite bad dry skin/a slight rash all over. Not sure if that's what is bothering her or not but off to the docs tomorrow as olive oil/coconut oil/burst bees is making no difference. Going to try to get something for the constant vomming too.

Are you sure it's not a UTI dulce?

Congratulations and welcome carrot - Hope the boobing issues improve soon. Don't be too hard on yourself. You're both learning still. Hope there's a bf support worker nearby to give you a hand? Seems a bit mean to discharge you if you're not confident with feeding just yet x

La - if you've got enough ebm/ formula to enforce a 12 hour plus boob break then that should be enough to kick start AF. Also cutting down on night feeds is supposed to be the key.

Feel like death. I've caught minipopz's nursery lurg. And. WE MIGHT BE MOVING ON FRIDAY!! AAAAARRRGGGH.

Pud are you me? That's absolutely what it is... Couldn't be a bother! FGS one of my bridesmaids is a bloody midwife. Why have I not camped out on her doorstep?! Helpline wise... Do I just phone and someone will come out? I have the NCT number Before gave me... I'm not a member so will they help?

I'm not an NCT member either but they were the people I phoned when I had to stop feeding on the right. Not sure how it works about sending someone out as my friend's Mum is a LC so we just asked her in the end. Try calling them to see?

Cool, will do. BFF is coming over tomorrow so will also get her to help me.

A had a good go at it tonight but ended up latching properly only twice, got covered in breast milk from leaking boobs and frustrated. So DH popped some expressed milk in a bottle and fed her whilst I pumped off some more. Every time I got an ounce or so we topped up the bottle! Felt like a cow. It was all rather funny tbh... Her little fed up frown whilst breast milk dripped off her forehead and legs. Ha!

I love her little facial expressions so much. She does an excellent "Blue Steel"!

Why won't you sleep child?!?!?

I've camped out downstairs all night because dp was getting annoyed at her restlessness all night. I swear the child is nocturnal. Sleeps so well during the day and shyte at night

Thanks viroids. There's a boob group on Thursdays that I was planning to go to, but I'll be also looking to speak to someone today as we need to go back to hospital to do a newborn check because they discharged us without antenatal notes.

My left nipple has very visible bloody crack across it, and she's only a day old right one is very sore too. I just can't get a hang of "bringing baby onto breast", I sort of just shove a nipple in her mouth which they say not to do...

She won't settle in her crib either just like DS did so I'm functioning on very little sleep at the moment...

On a bright side DS was very fascinated by her, kept coming over and looking at her when she cried and gave her kisses and said "nice baby"

Aww carrot you poor thing. Cracked nipples on day 1 is not fair. Has your milk.come in yet? DS sounds super cute with her