August 2015. It's all about food consumption and late nights at Bar Mugabe Nights

[Dozygirl]

New thread for us fast talkers

Crap night here. 1am 3.30 and now. Think it's the snuffles. Bloody Marys and bacon rolls on me. It's going to be a long day. Off to sneak in some more sleep before ds1 wakes up for the day

Thanks fanby I made it out of th chair but now I'm back in the chair after baby woke to soil her nappy and then feed again. I think I'll write off tonight and accept there's no sleep to be had

Happy Monday morning Mugabeans. fatty I too am now reading this in Mr Bloom style - lol @ Colin the runner bean!

rrra so happy you are home - snuggle up and take care X

lily sorry for your rubbish day - here's to a new week and everything being better

slow like you, delighted baby sucking thumb as helps her drop of to sleep on her own but trying to get 3 other DCs to stop sucking theirs!!

frolic and random hope the snuffles are better today

everything sympathise with you being up in night - every 2 hours for us - I get up at 5am on school days and am mega tired this morning - meanwhile DD has been sound asleep for last 3 hours!!

What is the Splash about Snug? I take toddler swimming on a Monday morning and pool have been really good, letting me wheel pram into the side of pool to keep an eye on baby. Lifeguard said last week I could take baby in too as toddler is confident on her own ( has arm rings on but I don't need to hold onto her) so was thinking of giving it go this morning. Hopefully toddler will keep behaving - don't want to be managing a wriggling baby and a naughty toddler in the water - really nice at pool though so I am sure someone will help!

I have this one. Bit big but will last as she grows. U could maybe get a baby seat ring thing to put baby in so u can concentrate more on toddler. I like swim lessons that teach them how to swim without arm bands.

Am truly rubbish at responding to everyone - sorry but thanks for the anti lurgy wishes. Can't retain what's on the previous page for long enough to respond - on phone!

So glad you're home rrra!

Stupidly got to the point where mini is 'sleeping' through not needing attention - wakes up and self settles but I struggle due to my own lurgy and listening to her. Set her alarm off in the night due to wriggling into a corner of the basket and so I failed to sleep properly after that although the cause was obvious when I looked under the mattress - baby at one end and sensor pad at other.

I seem to have created a naturally warm baby. After substantial vom on 2nd 1 tog bag in 3 days (washing fail!) I dressed her in 2 vests plus sleep suit and she wouldn't settle at all. While feeding realised she felt too warm so went for footless suit assuming she'd want more once she'd cooled down and she slept to 7am in 17.6 degrees. Obviously close fitting layers are warmer than the cotton bag as she's been fine in long sleeve vest plus 1 tog bag at that temp all week.

Seems crazy to me - not sure I'm ever going to need the full on pram suit unless it snows at this rate - will be fine in the fleecy suits!

Hope you all have good days with a chance to rest!

My friend is OK. She's still upset but she's bound to be. She has a scan later today just to double check on baby

I think we have well and truly hit sleep regression. He will only sleep on me....so glad the sling is coming in the next couple of days!

Ds slept all night despite being a little snot bag . He's got a really pitiful look about him, but seems to be handling his first cold really well. I've got a blinder of a sore throat. Dh is off and is doing a grand job of looking after us so far.

Cross fingers you don't come down with anything slow.

I know what you mean with the thinking about your 'old life' lily. It's a massive transition. I saw an old friend in a shop the other day and hid from her. She was a friend that I would only see a few times a year at parties and festivals. We always got on famously and were more often than not the ones who would be buying triple vodkas and causing mischief at 3am. She looked so lovely and thin and pretty that I felt I couldn't face her in my big fat, frumpy state! Totally ridiculous as I know she would have loved to see Ds and would never judge me for how I look.

giraffes I'm a bit shit at remembering to pump. But since Ds has started to sleep most of the night, I find the morning to be a good time to milk. I only use one boob per feed so the other one is pretty engorged after the night so I do that one. I've never had a problem if he's hungry soon after.

That splash and snug looks fab dozy. Apparently our local pool is quite cold so I will have a look for one.

It's funny how different they all are random. Ds really likes to be warm an snuggly. He seems really happy with a hat on or something on his head.

Glad your friend is ok fatty.

Right, I better make the most of dh being home and get some sorting done. They are collecting baby stuff for refugees locally so I'm going to sort out some of the clothes we've been given for Ds.

Happy Monday augmums! I hope you all have a great day with the lurgy banished and plenty of naps

Thanks for the tip on the star snug - I ordered mine on Friday and it arrived today, I love it! So easy to put on for pram and car seat trips, hooray!

Ahh giraffes! She looks so snuggly! I recognise the play gym too, molly has it got it off ebay for a bargain fiver x

Hello everyone, happy Monday! J has been a right grump half the day and I have been driving myself mad working out what was wrong. Turns out he wanted to lie on his back, rather than have cuddles with me, so have put him on his playmat and he's perfectly happy ...

Hi all Sorry to have been off thread had a busy few days! Glad everything seems well rraa. We had the play gym thing today as well but I couldn't leave the room otherwise he'd cry. We just had the second round of jabs though so I think that's why. DS has now decided to up the amount of feeds but lowercase amount per feed. U was getting so stressed trying to make him take the last bits so now I'm just going with it. He still has the same amount over the whole day. He's started to teeth so I wonder if the sucking is hurting??

I managed to make my mincemeat this week and DS's personalised santa stocking has arrived so am feeling festive! Got a stew in the oven and we're all snuggled up!

Hope you all had good days so far!

Lowercase?! Lower the! I wonder about phones sometimes!

Homemade mincemeat - get in MaGra!

Hope everyone has just been snuggled in and bunkered down today. My sis has come up to visit

• hooray! But I'm sat in the dark upstairs getting DD to bed - boo!

Also DH and I had a realisation today that we are mega skint. Moving, baby and generally not keeping rack has knocked us for six So they'll be a lot of beans and lentils eaten and no Christmas presents for each other.
Also do you think it's cheeky if I buy Christmas presents in the sales?! As I'm not seeing my family until January so could actually save myself a mint!!!
DH and I are used to having a disposable income but with me not earning and the money-monster that is mini mzzzf being born we've hit zero. Neither one of us had our head in the game really as we were both busy 'babying'. Fuck! I feel so responsible for not working and earning money but I've just made us spunk money going to a wedding..
Wonder if I can sell my pubes to make money. Since we've not dtd since she was born, (well since June really!) I'm once again rocking an Afro (must make myself laugh or I'll cry over £'s!)

We'll definitely be fine and it's nothing awfully serious but like you guys mentioned before it's not like how life was pre DD, not like it AT ALL!!
I've always been fat and frumpy so no change there!! I'm a sort of wellies and no make-up kinda girl. And most of the time it looks like I've brushed my hair with a toffee apple But what is getting to me is the c-section overhang/pouch thing. I know it'll take months and months for all the swelling and oedema to go down but FFS! At least it's working as a awesome drug free contraceptive!

DD went through the 'lay me down solo and let me play' phase. Got quite grizzy as I recall until she was let loose on the play gym!

I can believe mini mzzzf is 15 weeks - almost 4 bloody months!!!

Thanks Fanby. The playmat is an old one we had from dd1 but glad you got a bargain, this time round I've picked up a few second hand items it's great!

Magrat hope baby is feeling better soon, teething can make them very clingy especially combined with vaccinations.

Mzzf waiting til January to get presents sounds sensible to me! It's dd1 birthday in January, I always buy her presents in the sales. I hear you on the section overhang, mines improved slightly over time but still rubbish. I have lots of scars from other surgery too, I look like I've had a fight with a crocodile! Combined with the post pregnancy boobs with nipples facing south I don't feel very attractive these days, certainly won't be dtd anytime soon, too tired and not in the mood anyway.

Night all, catch you in the bar.

Hey there Mugabeans, it's been a beautiful day here today. Went for a long walk with the pram to get some fresh air and to see a friend for coffee. Feel much better for it, the combination of sunshine and fresh air definitely got the endorphins going.

giraffes love the colour of your star snug, baby giraffe looks mega snuggly in it! Unless I express in the early hours of the morning I don't tend to get much worth keeping. At 4am, however I can fill a 5oz freezer bag in about 10 minutes. If I am leaving DH with a bottle I tend to leave him 5oz's which he then splits over two bottles to reduce wastage. Not been doing much of this recently though as grumpy 2 has turned into a bottle refuser and as I am not going back to work this time I have decided to ditch the pump and not force the issue. I'll crack out the cup feeding after Christmas instead.

frolic glad to hear that DS hasn't been losing sleep over his cold. Good news. The bad nights sleep you had last week could just have been him coming down with the lurgy. Grumpy 1 always sleeps badly and is a bit more clingy just before she actually presents with an illness (usually just at the point I have got really exasperated with her and then of course I feel really bad )

lily oh no! escaping hound disaster sounds like a nightmare. No need for DH to snap at you either. Do these men not realise that sometimes their job is simply to listen to us rant! Especially when we haven't spoken to another adult all day! Hope today has been better for you.

Dozy very jealous of your cat time. I feel very sorry for our poor cat at the moment. She is just getting hoiked around the place all the time and no-one is really paying her any attention. It does mean that she is bringing us all sorts of unwanted presents in order to get us to love her again, which isn't helping her cause tbh!

random hope you are feeling better soon. Its rubbish looking after smalls with the lurgy.

mzzzf sorry to hear about your skintness, and just in time for Christmas too. Rubbish. At least this year you can get away without getting mini-Mzzzf any presents, and hell yeah to buying presents in the January sales, I do this EVERY year for my in-laws who we never see until several weeks after Chrimbo.

I agree with everyone who is reflecting nostalgically at their pre-baby lives. I do look wistfully at my career sometimes and wonder how it went so tits up. Especially when I see people I used to work with updating their Linked In status to exciting looking new jobs.

I don't intend to sound maudlin - I completely own all the decisions we made around not staying in London and deciding to have a parent at home for a few years while the dwarfs are little. I also genuinely believe that women can have it all, just not all at the same time and therefore I'll pick it up again in the future.

But it still makes me a bit sad sometimes...

Evening all! We are winning the war on snot. Ds hasn't fed much today but has been pretty jolly in general.

What a cutie giraffes!

We get that a bit now as well tindel. He wants to kick his legs and wave his arms without me in the way.

You are good making your mincemeat already magrat. I usually do everything from scratch, but have decided to give myself a year off this year. (Apart from making the sloe gin of course!) we're hoping someone will invite us for Christmas so we can have a break from hosting and an excuse to stay home next year when Ds understands a bit more.
We are off Christmas shopping at the end of the week, so I'll hopefully start to feel a bit more festive then.

Totally not rude to buy presents in the sale mzzf! I do that every year for folks I won't see until January.
We are also skint. I'm flying through the maternity leave savings. We've decided to keep burying our heads in the sand, enjoy Christmas and then be super frugal from January onwards. I'm sure I'll save us a fortune on cake and chocolate by starting a new year diet
I hear you as well on the c-section pouch contraceptive device! That, along with leaky boob smell, extra layers of fat and on-going issues with piles do not make me feel in the slightest bit sexy!
15 weeks? Fuck! Where is the time going. We almost at 3 months and it feels like it's gone so quickly.

Thsnks slow, I will remember that in future about a bad night signalling the start of something. I was expecting him to be up all of last night, but he just lay ther snoring. He's had 2 mega naps today as well. I just hope all the sleep is helping him fight the bugs away.
I absolutely agree with you about us being able to have it all, just not at the same time. I Already know that when I go back to work I'll be worrying about not giving 100% there or at home.

Good night all, may there be plenty of sleep.

Hello all,

We're back home after a lovely couple of days by the sea. It's the best thing about visiting the in laws!

It wasn't raining there either although Manchester is under water as usual now we're back!

I will catch up with the thread tomorrow but for now here is DS wrapped up against the cold in his Tatty Teddy snowsuit.

Sending sleepy thoughts to our mini-Mugabeans (makes me think of mung beans!)

Night off tonight for me
School photos in the morning, then HV is out and my dad is meant to be found and I've got shopping and the sling coming tomorrow so a busy day!

mzzzf im always skint! You will survive. I had one year when DS1 was small where I was struggling to feed myself and keep the house warm. I chose to keep the house warm and scrounge what I could off my mum. That was when I first moved In to my house. DS1 was 14 months old. I spent £40 on his Christmas that year (a present and some clothes). He doesn't remember, and was more interested in the box anyway! Luckily my family are good and I was able to have meals at my mums and she bought DS extra presents for Christmas.

Mugabe Augmums. Just popping by for a quick g&t, hopefully back to bed fairly swiftly.

Really good news that you're home Rra, what a scary few days for you.

What gorgeous pics Nolonger and Giraffes, snuggly babies just too cute. I feel like it's been so mild this year I've only had cause to use DS's pramsuit once. Not complaining though as I don't know what I'd do without my long walks each day.

Sounds like most of us are feeling a bit down for one reason or another. I had a tough day yesterday where I just felt really touched out, DS being clingy and after a week of doing at least 1 nap per day in his Moses Basket he was back to only napping in sling. Hope it's a one off rather than a new phase - nothing lasts for long with these babies though eh?

Buying crimbo presents in Jan sounds like an ace idea. Before I can think about xmas shopping I've got mine and DP's anniversary to think about. Any ideas for presents? I'm struggling a bit this year...

ClStow it's mine and dps anniversary next weekend end too. We only tend to get each other a token gift as it's near Christmas. Normally we go for a weekend away somewhere which I think we could do with really but we're just having a date night on the Saturday.

Slow my cat also upped the unwanted gifts giving. Was so kind of him but he's eased off recently. Maybe the bad weather has put him off venturing outside for long enough to catch something.

I'm not liking the weather where I am. I want to go for walks but it's bitterly cold and I'm too fat for my coats so I can't do any of them up.

Love the star snug giraffes. I wanted that colour. Is that the medium? I'm still trying to win a small on ebay but having no luck. Don't want to pay much for it though and they're going for over 10 quid at the moment.

Cute pic no longer. Love the bear suit. I've yet to dress dd in a snow suit. I just put a blanket over her if we go anywhere and I'm normally in the car so I don't put anything thick on her because of the car seat straps being too loose.

I'm hating the mum tum too. I look ok stood up but sitting down is another matter. The bulge is horrible. Weightloss just isn't happening. I could.pretend it's because I'm one of those people that store fat because I'm breastfeeding but really it's because I can't stop eating. I've not even been counting my weiggtwatchers points so that's not helping. I really thought that by having the incentive of getting my money back by loosing 10lbs in 8 weeks would help me really stick to the diet but it's not. I think I have till next week to lose it but if it's this week I'm screwed. I have a 30th bday party to go to first weekend in December and I'm dreading it because I have nothing to wear. And Xmas is coming up which involves lots of eating. It's all hopeless. I could on and on about this but I hate talking about it anyway. I've struggled since I was 18 with weight. It's an ongoing battle that I feel I'll never win.

I should be asleep right now seeing as piper is asleep but never mind. She woke up at 3:45 which isn't like her so I fed her til 5 and she's dropped off but I'm wide awake. Normally I'm falling asleep while feeding her.

Crappola night for mini mzzzf. Took bloody ages to settle in her cot. With DH getting irate with me and her because she only wanted me and was screaming at him - I can't bloody help it love!!!
Then she was up at 3,4,5 and then 5.35 so I took her in bed with me where she slept soundly until 6.30am. Probably not the best habit to get into but man I needed to lay down.
I am fucking irked at DH. So not only did he come up to bed later and get up before me but the only baby job he's done is sterilise the bottles. He's not reconstructed them, filled the milk powder pots, or filled the milk machine. He's left nappies around from when he changed her yesterday evening and didn't even get the dogs out for their wee this morning. What the hell does he do in the time before he leaves?! I know there's a lot of poogling going on but FFS man there's stuff to do.

I'm also mildly angry at him because despite him grumbling at me re money it turns out he's been having lots of lunches at work that cost around a fiver a time, despite me having all the sandwich stuff ready here for him to use. Grrrrrrr!

It's always the little things that count isn't it?! Both positively and negatively.

Anyway - Nutella for breakfast - HELL YEAH!!!!

dozy thanks yes it's the medium sized one. She's average size for her 15 weeks, it's big but I fold up the visor part of the hood a bit. I paid the £25 for a new one as wanted it quickly and she'll use it all winter as I don't plan to get any snow suits.

mzzf I hear you on your dh complaints! I have a melt down every so often which seems to result in a lot being done this morning he sorted the cats out and was moving stuff to the loft which has needed to be done for ages. I know what you mean about lunches too, I've always taken packed lunches to work, whereas dh buys lunches but then complains he doesn't like them

clstow how about about booking a weekend away for the spring as an anniversary present?

mzzf I had a similarly crappy night - spent the best part of 4 hours trying to persuade J to sleep. It then involved us going to bed and he then slept from 11 until 230, refused to settle for ages. DH ended up settling him while I just sobbed in frustration. I don't know how to get him to sleep during the day other than in the sling and he gets so overtired and grouchy. I kind of bank on him having some sleep at night. Got a music class and his first swimming lesson today, so hoping that will tire him out more

Also, my DH refuses point blank to take in a lunch. I tried pointing out how much he was spending, but he's not fussed. I even offered to make one up for him (I usually took my lunch in when I was working), but he likes the excuse to get away from his desk. His choice, I suppose...

Sorry to hear about the bad nights - mine is usually pretty good about sleeping when she needs to but if she won't the only solution is to put her in the sling and go for a walk more or less as long as the desired nap. She might squeal a bit but consistently drops off after 10 minutes. In this mood just having her in the sling around the house doesn't get her to sleep but she doesn't yell... Alternatively if too dark/wet for a walk the car works to break the not sleeping/overstimulated wind up mess.

I also find fireworks on you tube quite reliable as an anti grump device and less tedious for the adults than the baby sensory videos!

Tindel - hope the swimming goes well - just need to get over snots and get the nappy/ costume situation sussed (and make sure the legs will go tight enough). Enjoy you music class!

Fortunately DH always makes sandwiches - he's always out and about in the depths of the countryside so no guarantee of being able to acquire anything if he doesn't!