November 2014: The one that needs baby-proofing!

[ladydolly]

And maybe ends with 1st birthdays!!

Ark congratulations!

Haha thanks Strawberry.

I'm thinking maybe I should kind of partition the living room off and totally baby proof one bit? Any of you using playpens?

It's so hard cause I'm still in my grans house so there's so much stuff that's no way baby appropriate that I can't do anything about

Babies at this age need 14-15hrs sleep in 24hrs 3.5hrs over 2 naps and 11hrs ish at night. Not all conform though :)

My monkey has no real nap pattern other than 3 naps of around 45mins each one at 9ish, one at 12ish and another at 3ish but can be varied by an hr dependant on wake time and what we are doing as all naps happen in car seat or pushchair through school runs really.

Meal times wise

Wake up 6-7am - boob (if lucky back to bed for an hr or so)

7/8am - breakfast porridge barely eaten
8.30/9am half piece toast chewed
10.30ish snack of fruit pouch or rice cakes (actually if awake and moaning food gets offered since stopping boob in day)
11.30 - lunch usually some mush n finger foods (sometimes later if napping)
1.30/2 - snack usually pot of hm custard n fruit using ebm
3.30/4 - tea time mush followed by pudding
5.30- finger foods with us
6.45- boob for 30-60mins feeds to sleep

I just did an actual hollow laugh at the idea of DD sleeping 11 hours overnight. So I'd be popular with your expert too! In fact DD has slept about 75 minutes total all day and is now fighting bed time like a champ. I am so tired though that I am now in that slightly stoned feeling, zen place where I just don't give a shit!

twiglet you're not alone. Dd is on the sofa in her pjs after I gave up trying to settle her down while she was laughing her head off at me

Twiglet we are still up at night my first was text book from a few mths old 45mins nap morning and afternoon with 2hrs at lunch and sleeping 11hrs at night from 15weeks guess wasn't going to happen a second time although I know the silent reflux and cow's milk protein intolerance has played a part and bloody tongue tie.

I forgot in his routine he also has a quick breast feed at 5pm

Thanks for the info thisis, I'm not so worried about daytime naps its nights that I need to sort out. She slept better than normal last night, though she wouldn't go to sleep until after 10pm but i think that was because she spent 6 hours in the car and then was overexcited by seeing her cousin and uncle and we are in a strange place. She woke at 1, 2, 4 and then up at 7. I got woken up by dh coming to bed at 1 and then he snored so I was up and down until I fed her at 4 then I think I passed out for a couple of hours so I'm exhausted as usual! I think there are a few things that make her sleep better - lots of stimulation during the day, not having too many layers on if its hot, going to bed after 9 and not being in her own cot at home!

I am FURIOUS. Dp is having some machine delivered and they were supposed to be here at 6, They have JUST rocked up and started shouting at each other trying to reverse up the drive and waking poor dd up in the process. Pair of idiots.

We usually get a morning nap and an afternoon nap which can really vary in length. He will skmetimes go in his cot but I often end up jn bed with him (sneaky mummy nap) or under him. If he falls asleep walking in buggy I have to keep walking. As soon as I stop he wakes up. We are very very very slowly moving towards him sleeping through a bit more. Last night for example he went down at 8 and was up at 9 and 3. Woke up at 7. And the night before he slept from 8 till 6. I usually feed him to sleep but he will be rocked or walked to sleep in the buggy. Boob is just easier! X

Ark might have actually killed them.

Imagine. 20 mumsnetters in court backing her up for being totally justified. 'No one wakes up our sleeping babies'

Oh god I was so cross, probably made worse by the fact that she went down at 7:30 and woke up at 8 crying hysterically and wouldn't settle so we had her back in the lounge with us to calm down and get sleepy again so she had been back in her bed all of 10 mins when they woke her up. I called them some really nasty names!

yay!!! I'm back - was having real problems re-setting my password . Have briefly read the posts I've missed - Twig if I've learnt one thing, it's that every baby is different and there's definitely not a one-size-fits-all thing. Oh, and actually I've learnt another: so-called "experts" can be absolutely bloody useless too .

Think DD is just waking up from 1st (30 min) nap, so will share our naps times / feeding times later - but just as a quick one, DD currently having tea anytime between 3.30-4.30pm so WAY too "early" according to the HV you saw.... but it works for us!

Oh, sorry, meant to address previous post to thisis, not twig!

So, DD actually still asleep...will see how far I get typing this out before she wakes up...Our daily "routine" (roughly!):
5.45 - 6.15: DD wakes up. BF around 6.30
7.15-7.45 - breakfast: readybrek / yoghurt & fruit / toast
8.15 - 8.45 - 1st nap. Generally tends to be 30 mins, but could be an hour
10ish - 2nd BF
11ish - 2nd nap. Again, could be 30 mins or an hour
12ish - lunch. Meat / fish and veg mixture with either yoghurt or fruit
2ish - 3rd BF
2.30 -3ish. may have 3rd nap
3.30 - 4.30ish. Tea. Meat / fish and veg mix
5.50 - bedtime routine starts with 4th BF. Then bath, story and into bed for 6.30pm.

So this is SO not what your HV "advises" thisis

That sounds great that routine. At least all your bfs aren't immediately before bed! Ds is on 2 naps. The first tends to be 45 mins and the second 1.5hrs but I'll almost always have to help him into the second bit of sleep. We have 4 daytime bfs and overnight can be anything from 1 to 4. He eats better some days than others. If I've only fed him back to sleep at say 5 or 6 I won't feed him in bed once we're all awake for the day as he wouldn't eat any breakfast. From waking from morning nap to the start of afternoon nap is anywhere up to 4 hrs but that is definitely the limit.

Good point Strawberry I had wondered the same about getting him too dependent on the cot.

Ark we use a travel cot as a baby jail. Sometimes he'll sit and play happily in it and others he protests loudly. I think he is a bit bored with it but it's the safest place to put him when I'm getting lunch ready or doing other stuff around the house when I can't be with him all the time.

And I'm surprised you didn't kill them! Definitely with Ladydolly on the court thing

east 3.5hrs is much more like what he does during the day. It is so refreshing reading all your routines and what works for you. They are all so different.

Twiglet how was last night in the end? DS doesn't sleep through (I just didn't tell her that), just wakes less and has dropped his 3am feed. I still have to get up to him when he wakes up and shouts, usually a couple of times at least between 11 and 6.

Haven't, MrsA and cat thank you! Loving all the useful info on routines and feeding!

DP has just taken DS off to PILs for a couple of hours because I'm riding at 11.30 (hooray!!). All week I've been really feeling the need for some me time, and now I've got it I a) don't know what to do with myself apart from MNing and b) I'm so much of a control freak I'm fretting about him. Can't win.

I'm a bit thick regarding teeth. I really thought once I had felt the roughness on the gum line that it'd be up the next day.

Instead it seems the same but we've had two days of a very irritable baby. He doesn't want to play with his toys, he wants to be picked up, then immediately wants to be put down, then he zooms over to the oven/TV/bottom step of stairs and we have to chase him...then he whines and won't be distracted by anything else....

He is going through a Wonder Week - Leap 7 - so that might be part of it. But today myself and DH are strung out. We're "tag team"ing it so that we each don't go mad.

He's also boredboredbored with all his toys and with our kitchen/living room area. But its pissing down. We're going to have to go for a drive this afternoon, aren't we?

By the way, what utter bollocks is this?!:

^These are examples of what your baby might do after this leap:

Answers simple questions. For example, if you ask, "How big are you?," he will raise his arms
Says "hum" if your baby wants another bite
Points at things, people, or animals if you ask your baby to
Puts together a simple puzzle of three pieces
Understands that you have to talk into the mouthpiece of a phone
Stacks rings onto the ring pyramid
Points where to go
Repeats a game
Tries to persuade you to help him with things he really could have done without you
Imitates two or more gestures that you make, one after another (for example, the gestures of “Itsy bitsy spider”)
Tries to put on his sock by himself but does not succeed^

HAHAHAHA!!!

Lawks annarose - I reckon DD is seriously behind then according to that!

How long is this leap?? 3 years?!

I struggle with some of those myself let alone dd doing them.

anna That list is clearly either written by someone who hasn't had kids or an idiot. Or both.

Anna sounds like a long leap to be doing all that!!!

Ds2 at just 9mths does copy us he copies waving and does it to us and if we don't copy gets really cross at us, if we call ds1 he mimics a shouting noise so much so he does a particular shout now for his brother.

Doing a 3 piece puzzle well eat one maybe put it together ha ha equally attempted to put a sock on if that includes trying to eat it again we have that Sussed (hasn't worn socks all summer anyway)

She Can Actually Sleep!!! Last night she woke up briefly within a hour of being put to bed, then that was it until 6.30am! I got up at 5 because she was crying but she was asleep when I went in. I was beginning to think this would never happen. DD1, who always sleeps through, ruined it a bit by waking me up at 4am to tell me her pillowcase was too itchy
Who knows if it will last but I feel a lot more human today than I have for a long time.