July 2006.....and they all roll over......

[xmasstocking]

Ladies, thought I would do the new thread as the other one is taking forever to load up.

kz - absolutely agree about path of least resistance. DS had always been pretty good at night sleeping. He's now down to one night feed, which he is hungry for (about 2am), the other times he woke he wouldn't really take the boob, too het up. He's such a sociable little soul and really doesn't seem to want to miss anything during the day.

Thanks kz - it works best when I chill out a bit, think I understand why people say xmas is stressful now, too much change and I don't like it

beadmum - should be okay to put her in the seat now, it aort of supports him. he can't sit that well yet, forgot to make it clear when \i was boasting about his sitting that he has his hands down to prop himself up

maewest - I find that aswell thatLeo gets so over tired with no naps that he doesn't settle. Talking about bowel movements you should see Leo's since he started weaning

bloss - Leo was wearing a babygrow of Mirren's (faded pink LOL!) which fits him perfectly, I was looking through photos today and found a photo of dd wearing the same one age 11 months - it was roomier on her!

kbaby - maybe he likes the feeling of snuggling under something at night? Well done at your cooking,
MarriedtotheMob(I everytime I type that) - how to you prop sophie up? i put a v shaped pillow behind leo but he falls forward!

Sleep - Sefton looks such a dude

Also wondering how koshka is xx

Leo is asleep so early tonight. he had such a long feed, then woke up a tiny bit. I took the opportunity to put him in his cot, and straight away he turned hid face to snuggle into the t-shirt of mine that is in his cot and went fast asleep. Quickest so far!

Sorry about the typing but I am trying to drink tea and eat cake at th same time

cross posted

KZ - hooray for the lack of pukiness I'm staying away from that thread I had a quick look and then decided to leave it!

Congrats on tumble drier - they are great

Wallace-I put a cushion under each side of the v so it lifts the sides slightly. She does fall forward occasionally and headbuts (sp?) her toys (and yells loudly) but is getting much better at balancing. She does fall backwards and then nods off with over exertion of trying to sit up-bless!

I have dry clothes and only took 60 minutes-hip, hip, hurrah! Will wait for the electric bill.

Bed time now.

HC
xxx

Maewest - (((hugs))))We used to have such problems with daytime naps. DH or I ended up sitting for ages cuddling him to sleep, then as soon as we put him in his cot he'd wake up screaming. It was becoming a complete nightmare so we decided to take a different tack. We now put him in his cot when he starts showing tiredness signs. He usually starts crying/screaming, but we've found if we leave him (and go back every few minutes if needs be) he eventually settles himself. If I do need to go back to him I always pick him up - my theory being that if it doesn't stop him crying then he just needs to be left to settle himself. We've been doing this since just after Xmas and the length of crying is getting less and less. Today he's had three naps with about two minutes of crying in total - yeah!! Sorry if you've already tried this approach - I'm too lazy to go back through all the posts I'm afraid

KZ - so pleased to hear Roshi has had a puke free day. Here's hoping it's the start of better times for you all. I've been reading THAT thread - most enlightening. Will that girl never give up? Mind you, I was surprised to learn that the NCT counsellors have to train for 3 years!

Sleep - I've been doing the organic veg thing too. at £5 though! Tesco also do them for around 2 quid (still expensive!). I figure that as I'm weaning him early I'd better do the very best I can for him. Don't think I'll stick with organic when he's older because of the expense, except what I grow myself! I've been roughly following the weaning plan given by Her and it's working really well. He's had pear, apple, carrot, sweet potato and courgette so far.

MarriedToTheMob (love the name) - LOL at your excitement at the tumble drier. I was just the same - it was a life changing moment for us.

I don't mind getting housey stuff for Xmas as it's been so long since I've been able to afford stuff for me I've forgotten what it's like to have it! My Xmas pressie (suggested by me) was a hand held blender if you please!

We've been using a bath support for Aidan. The little devil keeps trying to sit up now though, and he's working out how to shuffle himself over the end. I used to be able to just nip over to the airing cupboard (still in the bathroom) but I daren't leave him for a moment now! Think we'll have to upgrade to a bath seat soon.

Sorry to the people I haven't mentioned - I can't keep up with all the posts! All the piccies are lovely though, as always!

MarriedtotheMob - I'll try that with the cushions

KZ - it's funny what they get attached to, Roshi will probably still be sleeping with a scrap of her grobag when she's 10 When are you off to Oz?

twinkle - you sound like the weaning is going well, you are so good doing organic, it never even occured to me, I've just been giving Leo mainly what we're having

We also hav a bit of trouble with daytime naps. He takes them in his pram, but it can take a while to get him to sleep.

Pissed off with dh this morning. I had a bad night, Leo fed so much (probably because I kept falling asleep with him in the bed so he didn't go back in his cot) so when Leo woke at 6:30 this morning full of beans I suggested to dh that he should get up with him and let me sleep. Dh replied that he had to go straight to work (setting up business so erratic hours). I wouldn't mind, but he is still in bed In fact now I think about it he did exactly the same last time I asked for a lie in! He doesn't mind getting up with the big kids, because then he just comes back to bed after bunging them in front of the TV, but can't to that with Leo yet...

Sorry you had a bad night Wallace. My DH has gone back to work today after nearly 3 weeks off, and part of me is a bit relieved. He seemed to think that he was on holiday or something . I did prod him out of bed to sort out the boy's morning poo (6.30 on the dot) a few times but the grunts and groans that elicited. He did have the grace to look a bit shamefaced when he was moaning about having to get up early for work when I pointed out that I never get a lie at the mo. I've found that I have to be quite firm about asking him to take DS for a few hrs, as he has an annoying habit of bringing him in to me and asking whether he needs a nappy change etc...

This morning I have changed and fed the boy and left him to it whilst I had my shower. Have the monitor on and there have been whines and squeaks (lots of yawns), but no crying, so am sitting here in my towel eating cereal while I check my messages. Twinkle, have tried that whole going in to soothe him bit, but what tends to happen is that I go in, he catches sight of me and grins, wriggles about like a mad thing then crumples up as he sees me leave the room .

Ooh, and I have been reading THAT thread too.

a "lie in" that should be...

all gone quiet upstairs, but now I have to sit downstairs in my towel as all my pants are upstairs, rats!

ceebee- I love that pic too!
Glad the meetup went well, from next week we have 3 groups to go to; Monkey Music, a local stay (friendly bunch) and the libraries rhyme time.

kbaby- I love your photos, Zack likes his Whoozit too. Zack isn't babbling yet although we have lots of meditation type noises

festive- I have worked in pre-schools based in nurseries and the parents definitely find it harder than the babies. I bet there was so much going on that Emma was occupied all the time. I hope it gets easier for you, do you have any other options if this doesn't work out?
I'd love to see the latest pics of Emma, I remember the last ones well she is very pretty, I always think there is a connection too. I wish I'd known at the time of labour I think it would have been really comforting

sleep- That is outrageous! Try your small local grocers, I got Zack 2 weeks worth of food for £1.81!! Not all of it was organic tho

pretty- is Junior any better?

mae- Now I'm not the best example but Zack's better nights are definitley when he has half his naps in his cot [fed asleep] If all his sleeps are taken whilst out and about he is worse than ever.
I don't post as often as I am well aware all I talk about is our lack of sleep

wallace- Zack has just fallen asleep cuddling my jumper!! Yay!! All by himself in his cot. I did have to remove it from his head, will have to find something smaller and lighter.

KZ- so gald Roshi is picking up, you never know you might see the bottom of your laundry basket now!

I'm going to have to back-track on the weaning as something seems to have upset Zacks tum. I do admit to not going as slowly as recommended, he was doing so well I think I got carried away. Oh well, its all trial and error.
With that and having no daddy around to occupy him my little monkey has been fairly demanding and grumpy!
Zack had such a lovely Xmas, DP spent all the time with him and really enjoyed having Zack to himself alot that I do think he was spoilt a little! Oh well a couple of weeks should see us back to normal.

Better get in the bath for a quick dip before Zack is awake again!

wallace- he is still sleeping That's 90 mins now!! I tried this a few weeks ago and it didn't work, I'm soooo glad you mentioned it again.
Does your LO sleep with your t-shirt at night? I think I'd be worried about him tangling himself or becoming smothered.

LOL at maewest trapped downstairs with just a towel - hope noone comes to the door

dh didn't get up until almost 9 grrrrr

us - Hooray! leo does sleep with my t-shirt all night, it is sort of bunched up into a ball. sometimes he does pull it over his face before he goes to sleep. Very funny to watch as he goes into panic arms in air making little "uh" noises, poor thing has no idea how to get it off! It is a thin cotton t-shirt so I don't worry too much

Hi again,

KZ - so glad things are better for Roshi

I was also wondering how Koshka is. Also - we haven't heard from Kiwikat in months.

I went to Asda yesterday and they were £1.20 or so for 2 organic sweet potatoes - what a difference! I am boycotting Fresh and Expensive from no won.

Sefton is 6 months tomorrow! I can't believe it. I remember being given 6-9 months clothes when he was born and thinking it is AGES away before he will fit into them!! awwww, my baby is all grown up

Yesterday he did a roll for hte first time too! Now I have to keep an eye on him all the time though.

I got my 3rd bounty pack yesterday and the booklet in there was quite good - we tried some of their sleeping suggestions last night and it was a bit better. Strange though because he is really good at settling himself to sleep - he happily chats and plays for ages until he drops off.

Having said that - he is waking up so gotta dash
x

morning ladies!

i think junior is on the mend!! we had a slightly better night. junior kept sleeping and waking between 8-10.30pm and i let him stay up for an hour so i could watch last bit of desperate housewives in peace

after 11.30 i put him to sleep and he woke again for a feed and went back to sleep and when he woke again i put him bed with us by which time dd had joined us! but slept till 9am after that.

he is in a better mood this morning, he's sitting in dds bouncer, he wasnt enjoying it yesterday but seems happy today like his old self!!

wallace- sorry for the bad night {{{hugs}}} if i want dp to get up and sort the kids out i just go under the covers and start moaning about having to get up all the time and he gets up after that even if he has work in few hours.

kz- really you had a non puke day hope it stays like that!!

well have to go and get some pics developed for dps grandmother who is going back to jamaica tomorrow, have a lovely day everyone

and also im so happy, all my favourite programmes are back on!!! desperate housewives, er, prison break starts on 15th!! and celebrity bb! dp and i will be fighting for the remote!!

Morning girlies

Think I have opened my mouth and said toooooo much this morning. Was getting DD1 ready for nursery and she was messing as usual so I told her to put her trainers, cardi and coat on. She said she couldn't wear the coat as it was too big. Now MIL has been saying this from the day I bought it 1.5 years ago so I know where the comment came from. Anyway, I told DD1 that she was only saying that because mad Grandma X had said it and she is completely mad. DD1 said not to say that as she is her favourite Grandma who likes DD1 going round. I told her both Grandmas like her going round but Grandma X is obsessed with her and lets her do what she likes which is wrong. Now I feel really bad and worried as DD1 will tell her now as she repeats everything. I know I shouldn't have said it but am so pissed of with the PIL it just came out. They need to get a life and stop using DD1 as a substitute child! MIL told DD1 that she would cry when she went to school and she no doubt will! MIL and SIL told DD1 that her new watch was hurting her and now she won't wear it. They said the same about new slippers once so she wouldn't wear them so they went and bought some new ones. Girls, it is driving me mad-what is a girl to do about it (apart from upping roots and going to live in Spain).

To cheer myself up I have re enrolled on the Baby swim class without my friends as they didn't want to go again. I have done something I want to do today so have moved a step closer to being....doh, can't think of the word.

Got that off my chest, I know I should post it on another thread but some aren't as friendly as you lot.

I too hope kosh and Nuria, and all others are OK.

Tatty bye

HC
xxx

kayzed-what a day you have all had! Was it warm enough to sit outside or were they indoor pigeons lol

Since weaning Sophie she doesn't want milk so only has a bit in the morning and a touch at night. She is full after her food-

Well, tea is in the oven and I'm serving it at 6-30 so if DH doesn't get home-tough! It was 7-45pm last night so how am I supposed to keep DD1 up that late!

Saw my friend this afternoon who has 2 DD's who are both 10 months older than my 2. Anyway, he won't have the snip and she won't take the pill so it's condoms all the way but quite clearly this wasn't the case the other night and she hasn't taken the MAP like she had to when DD2 was 6 weeks old Will watch this space

Must go so bye for now.

HC
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HC - how frustrating for you - you mut be an angel to keep your mouth shut most of the time anyway despite the provocation you get so don't stres about it

KZ - Have to agree with HC - what country are you in?? There is no way it is warm enough to sit outside here! Glad Roshi is on the mend and eating again.

Josh had his first 'settling in' session this morning - he went for an hour and I decided to leave him (came home and took down all the decorations) - went back and they said he had been great - happy, smiley etc! 2 hours tomorrow (including a feed) so fingers crossed it will be as good. I am worried about his naps though as he usually falls asleep with me holding him which he is not going to do at nursery so I am worried his sleeping pattern is going to go to pot and he will stop sleeping through. If he is tired enough he can fall asleep by himself but it is very hit and miss at the moment.

Funny thing is that he woke up at midnight last night screaming inconsolably for about 10 minutes - he eventually calmed down and went back to sleep but I have no idea what that was all about - he has never ever woken up screaming before so any ideas anyone?? Dh was not impressed and grumbled about getting up this morning even though I was the one who got up at midnight and sorted Josh out whilst Dh stayed in bed - grrrr!!

evening girls. I love 6.30pm. Been hard work today as DS didn't have his hour's kip as we were messing about at my mum's and it has really made a difference in how tired I am....he was a good boy all the way through bless him, but took more persuasion to be a good boy iyswim and being Mrs Calm and Cajole is a hard act to keep up. I've said it before and I'll say it again, 6.30pm is a fantastic time for kids to go to bed. And whoever invented Jaffa Cakes deserves an OBE, discovered DS1 loves them this afternoon....

KZ, what an ANNOYING day. Bless DS wanting a scone at a cafe. How very cosmopolitan of him. I bet he wouldn't be fobbed off with a Jaffa Cake in the double buggy. Glad Rosh is on the mend.

Tobes loves apple and hates carrot I have discovered so far. Trying to be as lasissez faire about him eating as I can as it is still so early, but he didn't eat much tea yesterday and woke up in the night for milk, so to me now him eating = unbroken nights and it's hard not to try and insist he eats...Took him to the HV clinic today, he weighs 19-11 at 21.5 weeks She said it wouldn't have been hard work not to wean him before 6 months and that made me feel a bit better as I was worried about giving him solids at 20 weeks. Still trying to get as much milk down him as I can, she said between 20-30 ounces is recommended. HC, does Soph really not fancy it any more? that happened to my friend, as soon as she weaned her DS he refeused milk forever more...I introduced porridge for breakfast today, I think I'll leave lunch until another month's time. Now he is eating, every day I am in a rigid time consuming cycle, of:

Toby = milk
DS1 = milk
Toby and DS1 = breakfast
Toby = milk
DS1 = drink and snack
DS1 = Lunch
Toby = Milk
DS1 = drink and snack
Toby = tea
DS1 = tea
Toby = mik
DS1 = milk

I mean WTF? I'm never going to get out the frigging door again!! Thank god I don't cook for me or DH!

right off to slob out, and drink diet coke - on the wagon for january and it is boooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiing....

Love Bloss

xx

Totally agree about 6.30 bedtime - feel like I 'clock off' for a few hours