Just Mumming Viroids 6 - some of us have time for JSing, some don't, but we're all grad grads!

[JuniDD]

Just shagging grad grads thread! Roll call below please...

Lol popz I blame getting drunk last week! There's no reason at all to think I am, except..dunno. I'll POAS in a week to put my mind at ease!

To be fair it's probably just dos we've been talking about if we're going to have another, because my tests on my kidneys came back ok, so the pre eclampsia didn't set off any kidney changes which I'm prone to because of my diabetes. So everything is ok after my pg with H, and we were careless and I'm probably just being silly is all

I wish my iPad wouldn't change cos to dos grr

I'm a bit obsessed with being pregnant again lately. What's that all about!?

I was a bit like that after my first. Am very much the opposite this time.

So bloody knackered - thought holidays were supposed to be restful. Someone forgot to tell the baby.

I keep falling off the Fred - must make more effort!

Hi zing!

Oh no, cym, I'm so sorry to hear that. Poor little mite. Hope she recovers quickly and you can take her home soon.

Hi ness! Hope you feel better soon.

zyla and popz at the "hogging baby" comments. Totally ignorant responses.
zyla, POAS?

tee I've found that the thought of dh being away / being left alone with baby is worse than the reality.

wil also at making up allergies! MILs = don't even get me started!!

pis how was the food festival? If it's the one I'm thinking of (local to you) then my brothers are there too!

pixie how are things? Recovering from c section OK?

Everything's really great here. I suddenly got better just over a week ago and I'm now able to look after E all on my own with no help from anyone else! I can't tell you all how relieved and happy I am
We've been going for walks in the pram, I took her into town, we've been playing on the floor (all stuff I couldn't physically do until now). Dh has gone back to work and crazy annoying MIL no longer has to come round to "help"!

Going to try out my sling today if E cooperates. I've got the Kari Me to try out. But I'm seriously thinking of getting a ring sling or a mei tei after recommendations from you viroids. Just need to convince dh!

Also, I'm thinking I might post my birth story here. It might help me to write it all out in one place. I'm also starting to wonder if I have a valid medical negligence claim. Me and dh are still suffering with PTSD (I'd say dh is worse - having night terrors and mood swings). I might post something on the Childbirth threads too. Would be good to see if anyone else has come across a similar situation. Will see if I get time later to write it all out.

Sorry for the essay must try harder to keep up more regularly!

Hi mini I'm so glad you're feeling better! Feel free to post your birth story if you think it'll help :)

popz I think you need a chat about babies with your DP!

I think H has hit the dreaded 16 week sleep regression a bit late! She's 22 weeks today, but 18 corrected and was up 5 times last night, also heard her awake several other times but she managed to put herself back to sleep. I hope she gets her head around things quickly and this doesn't become a habit!

Hello :)

mini I would love to read your birth story :) glad you are feeling better!

I want another baby!

Hi peeps

popz bursty love is the perfect expression!

mini I think we had similar births, I've been wondering similar re claim as I'm sure it was obvious from early on how it was going to play out. . I guess it's good sometimes mrj is a bit of a robot re emotions.

Sleep continues to be erratic here but she is so lovely during the day and nearly crawling so I forgive her.

Moar babies sounds rather exciting!! (but not for me)

I found writing mine out was really cathartic mini, and I don't think I had anywhere near as rough a time as you did. - so glad you're feeling better, it's funny how you almost have a switched flicked and start feeling a lot better a lot faster.
cym poor little love! Hope you're both okay xx

zyla ooh! A full circle JSr?!

Ah, mil and sil ...asking 'How long are you bfing for?' At least once a week.. I just am not comfortable leaving him with anyone. I don't know why they don't get it.

Thanks viroids - will get on the writing later today.

I'm so sorry you had a bad experience too juni. It's so horribly sad when something that was supposed to be such a special and exciting time gets turned into a nightmare. Even more sad when that bad experience then influences decisions on whether or not to try for a second child.
Have you ever looked into making a claim? Someone told me that if you want to do it, you need to make sure you do it within 3 years (apparently it becomes invalid after then). I haven't double-checked that so not sure if it's accurate, but thought I'd mention it as I had no idea.

Eeek, zyla, that sounds rough. Hope you've got a chilled out day planned.

popz - Also loving the "bursty love"! Perfect expression!

juni I'm already saying to a few people that the WHO recommends at least 2 years when people ask when I'm stopping! She's only 5 months fffs, leave us to it! :)

Fairly easy day at home yes, but we need to tidy, it's a tip and it makes me twitchy, so me and DH are tidying! Then he's off for the week so it'll be nice to be in.

Agree with the others Mini - I found writing the birth story quite cathartic. Mine didn't really go to plan and I was pretty shell shocked for a while, and again I don't think it was as rough as yours. Its also interesting to hear people's responses to it and have them reframe the experience for you. I felt like a total failure at birthing, but then telling people my experience they'd have a completely different opinion! I also had a "Birth Afterthoughts" session with a Senior midwife, which is like a debrief. Found that useful too - might be worth seeing if your trust offers anything similar. Did you manage to read/ copy your notes before they took them away? I love reading birth stories (sorry that sounds a bit voyeuristic!!)

I've already told DH we're starting on Minipopz v2 once I'm back at work in Jan Glad to hear the pregnancy cravings wear off eventually though, think he will draw the line at 3!!

I'm hoping the pg cravings don't reappear once I stop being exhausted all the time (if that ever happens). We don't have the money or energy for more than two although I'd quite like a boy...

Why why why are people so obsessed with how long you'll feed your baby for? Majorly weird.

I had an awful first birth - nowhere near as bad as yours though Mini. I was left pushing for far too long and will always have at the back of my mind a question about whether the birth has caused any lasting problems for MiniWil. However I will say that having a more positive experience the second time round has really helped my perception of the whole thing. Not that it was calm or peaceful or without incident, but it was just quick which was infinitely more bearable. Also I am proof that a horrid first birth doesn't mean your subsequent ones will be the same.

My hayfever is off the chart!

mini it is sad and a bit crap. It's a shame she took 3 years to get her as it forces my hand a bit on whether to try for a 2nd but not thinking about that now! I've not looked into a claim...I'm not sure it would be good for me mentally, as I've got so far and the flashbacks are far less intrusive etc. I'm not even sure the birth afterthoughts thing would be good.
I have a bit of a difficulty in choosing to sue the NHS although I can see why that's important or how would things improve. Anyhoodle, time heals and puts some distance between now and the event regardless!

Going on holiday tomorrow...her sleep can't get any worse!

Yay for holiday juni :)

wil I think the "And when are you planning on stopping breastfeeding?....." Has seemed to replace the judgements on her size. It's like people always need something to be sniffy about!

Ooh, we're going to the seaside tomorrow if it's not chucking it down! H has never been, it's at least 2 hours each way but she fights daytime naps so I doubt it'll hurt, kana like juni is saying!

I think sometimes people whether they are family or strangers just feel the need to say something whether it is to do with leaving them or breastfeeding or their weight, everyone has an opinion and they often think they are helping :)

Not the best birth here either!

Enjoy zyla. We were at the beach today. Where are you going on holiday juni?

Refreshingly today when I was asked how old she was, I pre-empted the comments with "she's quite small". And one of the ladies said "I'm a pediatric dietician, I've seen all shapes and sizes, she looks great". Ah why aren't all people pediatric dieticians?

I think the size comments are totally that cookie, people don't know what else to say. But I still think the bf question is weird. People wouldn't ask how long you plan to bottle feed for.

Mini sorry you had a rough time, I did with my first- back to back labour for 4 days- epidural given too late, couldn't push effectively because I was so exhausted- ended up with forceps and nearly an emcs. As you know I had an elcs this time. It was wonderful apart from throwing up on the midwife twice afterwards! It was a lot more calmer and a more enjoyable experience. If you do have another maybe think about that route? I was traumatised as I was repeatedly having internal examinations with no gas and air and someone tried popping my waters with their fingers. I was sexually abused as a child so couldn't face anyone going near me again (apart from DP). I didn't have one internal this time round and it was great
I'm recovering really well, I'm pretty much back to my normal self- it's a month on Wednesday, I've been hoovering, picking up DD and doing everything else and I've been completely fine.
The only thing that's affecting me is lack of sleep however that is rectifying itself as DP takes it in turns with me now so every other night I get a full 8-10 hours sleep. If it was my first I wouldn't be as bad but these kids don't sleep at the same time so there's no option of a nap ever! And I'm quite literally running after a 14 month old all day every day, plus trying to keep the house tidy. DP nearly got a smack in his chops the other day. He was banging on about how the house didn't need cleaning because it was clean/ tidy. So I said "oh I wonder why it's clean?! Probably because I bloody keep on top of it and clean regularly!!!"
I'm positive he must've grown up in a shit hole because he makes out I do too much cleaning as I clean the bathroom once a week and Hoover once a week plus I sweep every day in the kitchen and dining room but that's because DD would pick up old food from the day before and eat it otherwise! I don't see how doing the bathroom and hoovering once a week constitutes as me having OCD!

Cym I hope your little one is feeling better, let us know how he/ she is getting on x

That was a lovely comment wil

No one has asked me how long I'm feeding for yet. I'll probably say we'll think about weaning when she's heading to uni....

Everyone is pissing me off today :-/

Lol I get like that P, it's hard work trying to be nice to people some days. I usually get pissed off just trying to reverse out of my drive! DP likes the weekend as I don't turn the air blue when reversing as there aren't any dickheads parked directly opposite which cause me to have to mount the kerb just to get out

I'm sad to hear that bad birthing experiences are so common - that's awful. But it's good to hear that subsequent births don't necessarily pan out quite so badly wil and pixie, it's nice to hear that you can have a more positive experience second time round.

I hear what you're saying about suing the NHS juni. Also, I definitely don't want to get the anesthetist (during emcs) in trouble because she quite literally saved my life. I would hate if her career was affected by any investigations etc.

popz they have offered us a Birth Reflections thingy and I think we probably will go and do it. I think it would be helpful because I've got some questions I want to ask. A lot of the emcs and immediate aftercare is hazy for me because I was unconscious for about 12 hours.

Writing birth story now - will post in a bit.

oooo, holidays and beach outings sound lovely! So does the pediatric dietician - that was a lovely comment!

Sorry for pissed off-ness though pis. Anything in particular, or just general?

And pixie, I have the exact same problem getting our car out - wankers park opposite our driveway so I can't get out the bloody drive