April 2015 - The babies are arriving thick and fast

[TheBooMonster]

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Wineandchoccy I'm the same last few nights I've left her upstairs for an hour before we came up to bed... But in my defence our monitor is playing up. Need to return it and get a better more reliable one. It keeps losing connection which isn't very reassuring although our house isn't huge so sure we would hear screaming I don't want it to get to that!

New bedtime is going ok but new wake up time 3am is less good! Left her for 20min to see if she would settle as she wasn't screaming just fussing on with occasional short cry, but I got bored of waiting and thought it was unlikely so changed and feeding now. Her eyes are closed again and she's mainly comfort sucking after only 8 min feed so doesn't seem like she was starving. Hmm.

Still getting more evening feeds here too Boo - I've finished 3 series of call the midwife only one left then I need a new box set!

Well after wearing the carpet out checking dd out she has slept for 6 hours, she is having a mammoth feed now so hopefully she goes down again with no trouble.

There is a music and sensory class at 9.30 if we are up and ready followed by a NCT bumps and babies class. They are both held in the local arts centre which has a lovely cafe and does amazing cake so that is the main reason for wanting to go

I watched OBEM for the 1st time since dd was born yesterday I bawled my eyes out

After 2 nights of refusing to go down between 7 pm and 3:30 am I gave in and gave DD a formula top up at tea time and she was down soon after 11. Sadly I think she just couldn't sleep because she wasn't full the past couple of nights. Stupidly tonight I couldn't drop off... think I too may have been overtired! So 5 hours for her and 3 for me so far!

Going somewhere for cake sounds good to me wine. We're going for a walk later specifically for good ice cream!

No real routine here still. Last night we did bath, massage, feed to sleep, cuddle, womb sounds and eventually down! She doesn't go down day or night without some serious cuddling that is removed very gradually - something we really need to work on!

We don't either FiRaffe I suppose we could try but my gut tells me he won't sleep until he's happy/full/whatever happens that makes him put downable. I'd love to have a bit of evening time but I don't want to be up and down to him art evening either. It does happen in time and if he's like my others it'll be a few more weeks.

3am isn't bad if you're putting her down earlier PenguinPoser!

Last night was 10.35 before he went to sleep so a bit later but still similar time waking. Last few nights it's been 4.30 he feeds about 10mins, I change him, feed again and back down by 5ish, then he sleeps again until 8ish or I wake him . He then feeds chats, feeds and sleeps. The rest of the day depends where we are what we're doing or what he fancies it seems!

Ahhhh I just got a huge smile! Made me so happy then instantly thought 'don't be too awake please go back to sleep after more milk!', horrible mummy!!!

I know that feeling cinnamon!

DS is currently refusing to go back in his basket but is asleep on me which is a change from the hourly feeds of other mornings. Keep thinking we need some black out something but we have floor to ceiling windows in our room so will be difficult.

So far luckily daylight doesn't seem to have made any different to him FiRaffe as it's totally light when he's up at 4.30 and he goes back down reasonably easily. Today took until 5.20 but not too bad and he's still sleeping now. I'd be refreshed if my alarm didn't go off at 6.15!

Hmm so today I tried not waking Sam before the school run and he wasn't a happy baby on the way home! So I suppose waking him and feeding him when he's not asking is preferable to that?

I don't envy your alarm! DH turns his off quite quickly but often i'm just going to sleep after feeding.

Sorry cross posted. It does seem easier sometimes to feed them before going somewhere even if they aren't convinced

If I feed when he hasn't asked for it he invariably voms it back up. Whereas when he has asked for it, he only voms sometimes

Oh dear smogs! I often get the point where if I try to feed before we go out he'll only take a little bit but then want more, more often while we're out!
Off to baby group now... no idea what it is this week but just good to get us out of the house, especially on a lovely day like today.

Argh, DS would not go down for longer than 15/20 mins at a time last night. He was also being sick after every feed and really ratty. It was hell. Fortunately DH is not at work today so he took him from 7.30 and has given him ebm so I could get some sleep. Apparently he slept for 2 hours or so on DH and has had a bottle without being sick in between shorter sleeps. I have no idea what to do with him!

Considering giving a formula feed last thing at night to see if he goes down for a longer sleep. Any formula recommendations?

He's 6 weeks and we have no routine yet. There is no way he would just drop off to sleep if I put him down awake at set times! The only 'pattern' is that he doesn't sleep for longer than 2/2.5 hours at a time, though is more likely to sleep for longer on someone rather than if put down

Lost my message. I think I might give up on MN and stick to Fb group.

Gist of the message was sympathy for you Fi , big well done for slogging on with it. Expressing will be fine. Try doing at least a bit of hand expressing too if poss as offers the mix of pumping/milking that mimics baby and keeps hormones going. But for 2 days wouldn't need to worry about that.

We went to our first Under5s group today, and were outside - yay sunshine!!

Yesterday I fell over , down steps, with DD in the babybjorn. I have two grazed and bruised knees. Feel very silly and was very shaken. She was fine, didn't notice! but that moment going flying with my arms suddenly around her only thinking of her, as of course you do, its scary!

Hope you're okay Moomin!

No idea on formula jet pack but could you express for a bottle before bed then give him boob if he wants more. It'll make sure he is full!

Moomin that's my fear too falling over when holding dd/walking down stairs etc. would just want to protect her!

Jetpackplease sorry can't advise about formula but sorry you're having a rough time it sounds like you're exhausted. Like Fi said you could always try expressed milk? Don't worry about lack of routine it's early days yet!

Cinnamon I know what you mean about the smiles but they do make it worthwhile . I think dd will be laughing soon I'm sure she almost did today!

Currently trying to get her down to bed so we can tidy the house a bit... Friends coming for BBQ tomorrow evening on account of the good weather forecast!

Sorry to hear that jetpackplease! Hope your formula makes a difference. Things definitely improved for us at around 6 weeks. And we don't have a routine at the moment either, don't worry about that.

I fell over with ds2 when he was 4-5months old MoominMama22, holding him not in a sling and I turned myself to make sure I hit the ground and he was surrounded by my body. I hope you're ok and yours not too achy the next day!

Enjoy your bbq PenguinPoser! Laughs are fantastic!

Glad you're both ok Moomin. Scary.

Ds wide awake this evening and fighting the boob as ever. He just wouldn't latch and was thrashing around and crying when putting him to the boob despite rooting. So DH is giving him a bottle of ebm and I've expressed to keep up supply. I'm now in bed and DH will bring him up when he's asleep. Then I imagine I have another shitty sleepless night ahead

Got infant gaviscon from GP today. Now terrified it will make ds constipated but will try it for a few days to see if it helps.

Could definitely be worth a try jetpackplease- it doesn't always cause constipation especially if breastfeeding. But if so you can stop it. Sounds like you need to try anything that could give you a break the fussiness will improve. DD used to do that thrashing etc all the time. Fussy evenings are common and it diesnt mean there's anything wrong with your supply etc. it's so hard though and that's probably no help when you're in the middle of it. You need tea and cake.

I've woken with a sore throat

I agree with PenguinPoser, all three of mine have had varying times they were not happy in the evening jetpackplease. Sam feeds on and off rarely being happily settled between from 6/7-10 every night. He does pull off and thrash as the boob despite clearly wanting it but usually for me a big burp and he'll feed again. I was interested to read an article someone posted about reflux being over diagnosed and actually it's often babies being babies that someone posted on fb, but on the other hand if it is the problem life will get easier for you all. I understand your worries I didn't take gaviscon in pregnancy for fear of constipation. Really hope you get some improvement soon however you manage it!

It took me ages to get up for this feed, he was actually crying by the time I got to him as I was dreaming about an unhappy baby and it didn't register in my brain for a while that the crying was real!!!!

Oh no PenguinPoser, hope it just means you've been sleeping with your mouth open

Hope you've had some sleep jetpack. As the ladies have said, it's worth trying and you can always stop things.

Sorry to hear about the throat Penguin. Hope it's temporary and you aren't coming down with something.

We were supposed to have a picnic today but guess I will be going for lunch with my friends inside from this rain!!! Hope you all have a nice day

Thanks ladies.

Penguin, hope you're not coming down with something.

Enjoy your lunch Fi.

Cinnamon I often find I'm half asleep dreaming about a crying baby only to wake up fully and realise it's ds wanting attention

So he had 2 doses of gaviscon yesterday. He still had a v fussy evening but I do think he was arching and kicking a bit less and it was mainly his hands getting in the way that was the problem. The night started terribly with him waking at 12.30 after being down for 30 mins, small feed and then he started screaming, sounding like fear. It was like nothing I've heard before from him and DH came running in from the spare room. Took a while to settle him. Terrified me. He woke again a couple of hours later and was v fussy - like trying to feed an angry octopus. The he slept from 5 - 8, which is unheard of! He's just had a tiny feed and gone back to sleep I would expect him to be starving but maybe he'll wake up properly ravenous in a bit...

I know have a coil, phew!

Off to hospital once I've fed Sam for ultrasound of his spine. Not really sure what to expect this time, won't be with our regular doctors.

Yuck to the sore throat penguin. And good luck with the feeding jet

Thanks all for the well wishes about my fall, or our fall I should say! It seems I've hurt myself more than I realised and can barely get up the stairs. Our stairs are so steep they scare me when holding her anyway. I've been changing her on a mat on the floor downstairs but that kills my bruised scraped knees. Just a constant reminder of what an idiot I was.

Supposed to be going for jabs, shit, now..but I have baby attached to boob like a limpit!!!
Better tear her off and jump in the car!!