April 2015 - The babies are arriving thick and fast

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Moomin if DS is awake unless he's feeding or having a cuddle, he tends to be quite cross! He's 6 wks. He has periods of time when he will pay attention to mobile/ stuff hanging from playmat arches but he can also have a good old shout when put down. He sleeps a lot of the time although I couldn't tell you how many hours.

We are trying a new thing this evening and have put DS upstairs in his Moses basket and I can't tell you all how relaxing it is to sit down with DH for an hour or so without passing him between us and trying to assuage his evening rages/ colic/ whatever the hell it is! I'm sure we'll pay for it later tonight but at the end of the day he has to start going to bed around 7pm at some point. I had a friend over today whose DD is 8 wks and she told me she has been putting her to bed at same time as her DS (who is 2.5) and I just thought why not give it a go...

I feel bad we have literally no routine, at all . I thought I wouldn't even attempt one until she was 6wks... Now she is somehow 8 wks and still we are just muddling through and she goes down about 10pm or later if she puts up a fight. I thought we would at least be trying bath,cuddle and bed at 7 by now. Never happens.

About 30 mins at a time MoominMama22, it's getting longer all the time though. Unless you count feeding them it's longer but just awake and looking around, babbling or hitting toys in his bouncy chair/gym is 30mins 3 maybe 4 times a day. We have the same grumpy evenings and you will find it improves around 12weeks or my other two did anyway

DS is 7 weeks now. Our first few weeks feeding were fine but now it's just agony a lot of the time. I think the worst part is people just not really knowing what it is or if there is a fix. I almost screamed louder than him earlier when I was feeding him and had to switch sides! Oh well, we fight on.

Does anyone know if I pumped for a couple of days when he would normally feed and give him a bottle instead for a while, would my supply be affected? It hurts less to pump and I wonder if healing would be helped and it would give us a chance.

We have around 30 mins too that he will be happily in his play gym, with some of that as tummy time. He scooted himself forward about 10cm yesterday during tummy time, uh oh!

Sounds good with the put down smogs. We still don't have a routine but things are getting more predictable. Hope it is successful for you

Moomin throw yourself a bone! When DD was born me and DH didn't have a clue I think she must have been at least 12 wks before we realised that we had option of putting her to bed earlier.

Anyway so this first go has worked quite well - he's done 8pm-2am. I'm quite surprised as having fed him for nearly 30 mins around 7-730pm he did what felt like a big fat vom - I didn't have high hopes for him having a nice full tummy. He did grumble a bit thought the monitor between 9-10pm but DH assured me fine to ignore him and continue watching new BBC drama the syndicate, so I did and grumbles never amounted to anything.

FiRaffe I don't really know about expressing/ supply but I'm sure someone more knowledgable will be along soon. You poor thing with the pain though - you must get it sorted for both of your sakes

I hope I can smogs especially as I think leap 2 has just hit!!!

Fi I'm not really sure about pumping and supply... Logic tells me if you pump everything that baby takes in then supply should be maintained but I'm not 100% sure. I know someone in FB group is almost exclusively pumping and has a great supply so it's definitely possible.

Dad grumbled a bit after bedtime last night too smogs. Didn't amount to anything much and she went until shortly after 3 which isn't bad. I'm still feeling v tired though.

Moomin my DD is 11.5 weeks now. She has quite a bit of alert happy time but it varies from day to day - yesterday she was more grumpy. Sometimes she can have 30min on playmat- or just kicking around on the changing mat with us talking to her and pulling faces! That's when we get the most smiles. She can stay awake for several hours though but often yawning and grumpy so would be better off asleep!

The pump won't be as efficient FiRaffe do supply may decrease but it's only two days and you should be pretty well established now and it will come back up again. If it saves your bf then it's better than plodding on definitely just be aware you'll probably have to pump more often than he's feeding.

Moomin, Leah was happy and awake most of Monday but Tuesday she was awake but really upset but I have no idea. Just lots of sad cries. Think she was over tired as I'd get her to nod off for a bit but then wake again. GGRRR! Don't think we have a proper routine but Im starting to see a pattern. She normally takes a big feed at 8pm ish and is settled by 10pm ish so we tend to get her changed at about 7pm ish and take her through to the bedroom. She has just slept for 6 hours straight! She did 5 hours yesterday! Woo! She has chewed my nipples for last couple of days but it's working.

Aww, Fi. Im really sorry you are still in pain. I only expressed for one day as I was scared it'd decrease my milk but doing that and using only nipple shields for a day was enough for me to recover and it not to hurt as much.

Im starting to learn that Leah will normally grumble for 10-15 mins after being put down so tack is to leave her and see if she settles. It seems to work and only occasionally does it turn into a cry.

My dad is coming to take me for a drive today. Yay!

Hope you're all having okay nights. Been a rough one here and the last feed has me in tears. Going to post on the infant feeding board I think and see if anyone can suggest anything.

Thank you all for your support

firaffe I hope somebody can help you but if not I would go to your GP because you sound in a lot of pain

Fi - so sorry you're still in pain. I know your
GP thought it was nipple ischaemia/raynauds type thing, if they're sure of that diagnosis then this might be the point that it could be worth trying medication to see if it helps. Nifedipine would be the one of choice probably and is safe enough to take when feeding I think. Does your nipple change colour? Typically with raynauds it would go through stages of being white, purple etc before returning to normal? Please consider going back to the
GP as if tbey are confident in this diagnosis then they should be willing to treat you, and if not they should reconsider the diagnosis.

Fi expressing for a couple of days will be fine. I expressed exclusively for 5 weeks and have been able to re-establish breastfeeding and I have plenty of milk. The lactation consultant I saw said that often ladies who express have enough milk for twins! It's just quite demanding keeping up with expressing and feeding as it takes twice as long!

Thanks ladies like. Might keep expressing and see how it goes, but I will go back if it doesn't improve. I feel like I'm spending all my life at the doctors for one reason or another.

Argh no idea why my phone likes adding like at the end of sentences! Apologies

Anyone noticed a kind of pavlov's dogs effect on their baby? Sam stops crying as soon as he hears my bra hook click to drop the cup, makes me smile!

Hehe cinnamon - the other day I was in bed still and dd was crying for food - I propped myself up and took my top off - she was with DH then she looked to the side saw boob and stopped crying and started smacking her lips was so cute!

Yes cinnamon! The excitement and anticipation on his face at clip time is hilarious.

Fi sorry you're still in pain

We still don't have a routine here, Evie sleeps ok on the floor with me, and fabulously in a relatives Moses basket whilst we were down there but won't sleep in her crib which is a pain. She feeds pretty much all evening which makes for a grumpy mummy. I have now finished 4 seasons of sanctuary, 5 seasons of castle and 2 of grey's anatomy just from being trapped for evening feeds.

I get quiet for a few seconds when I lie him on the breastfeeding pillow. He isn't patient enough to wait though and the click isn't enough. Sometimes you'll show him the boob and he continues crying.... boys!!!

We have done a routine for the 1st time tonight bath, massage, feed and in her crib upstairs which has meant I have been up and down the stairs lots of times checking her even though the monitor is on

Wine all I can say is second time round you won't be going up and down those stairs!

Wow wine, putting me to shame (I think our 2 are the same age). I just have no idea how to fit everything in at the mo, especially being screamed at all the time!
We seem to go through to bed about 8, but it still takes 2 hours to get him quiet and fed enough to even think about going down. We've just about got into the change of vest routine!