October 2014.. Thread 7.. Teeth, tantrums & tickles

[STIGZ]

Hope this works ?

Worst night to date here. Seems we have a cold added to the mix... snot in eyebrows when she woke up.

I have no idea how to start sorting this sleep stuff out. I can't go on like this. She's totally fine in the day, 8pm arrives and it's like a switch flicks and she is unable to do anything alone, and becomes starving hungry. Urgh.

goats maybe once she is on solids and on the move much more you will see an improvment ?

That's 5 weeks away - can't do another 5 weeks of this.

I'm assuming that since she's eating every time she wakes up, she's just very hungry. Therefore assuming that my milk isn't enough for her - but my hv tells me that you always have the amount of milk they need, and prior supply adjustments have happened within a day or so, not 3 weeks.

Tonight I'm going to bed at 7 with earplugs in and boyfriend can deal with her until 11 - he can do formula and we'll see if that makes a difference. Mostly though it's about me getting some sleep.

travel cot with vibration in the mattress

Our bouncy chair has vibration, but I took the batteries out of it many years ago and have never used it with DD. I don't believe it makes any difference to sleeping (the foot bouncing of the bouncy chair does that) and I would become very worried about developing some sort of dependency on vibrating to sleep.

*since she's eating every time she wakes up, she's just very hungry

Are you sure it's not comfort sucking?

I hope your night with earplugs and formula helps tonight. Sleep deprivation is horrible.

Even if it is comfort sucking, what can you do about it? She sleeps in my bed right next to me - can reach out and touch me at any point. Apart from having her sleep ON me, she can't get any closer/more comfort.

The problem is that all things you need to do to help or change things, involve being capable of thought in the night, which at the moment isn't an option.

goats try and take it one day at a time. If you think about the whole picture of bringing up baby too much it's very daunting. I too am pinning my hopes on weaning (and then crawling) to sort out the sleep situation. Unfortunately the second the baby is ill then everything goes out of the window anyway. You can do this and you may find that she is ready to be weaned a little earlier than 5 weeks, although I know you're wanting to hold off because of allergies. It really won't be like this forever, I know that doesn't help when you're in the middle of it! I remember first time round being a bit pissed off that no one had told me how hard it would be!!

The boyfriend dealing till 11 will make a huge difference. We did that every night for about a month and sort of still am but I'm going to bed at 8.30 now rather than 7 as the sleep has improved a little bit.

Usually A sleeps 8-2/3 now anyway but knowing it definitely isn't my problem till 11 means I sleep loads better in the first bit of the night.

I had really low expectations - up to recently I've been a bit surprised that while it was hard work and unfair regards difference in input between parents, it was manageable. If I've had even a 3 hour stretch of sleep then it feels manageable. Without that though it's awful.

I completely get that. I didn't get a 3 hour stretch for about the first 8 weeks and ended up literally suicidal. That's when I was ebf so husband couldn't really help. Now I know I can always get that stretch even if it's 7-11.

My new arrangement with my husband is clearly delineated times of responsibility. This has really helped as I know where I stand and can look forward to my time off/ plan things better. So 5-6 he always has him now and I can cook, which I enjoy.

Last week we moved Babywing into his own room because he had started to sleep through. It didn't sleep through in his room and woke at least once if not twice in the night usually just for a cuddle. So last night I'd had enough of being up and down so put him back in with us. He slept through I'm going to have him sleeping at the end of my bed when he's 15 aren't I??

He didn't not it!!!!!

Goats we had a massive growth spurt at 5 months - feeding every 2-3 hours for 3 weeks - and now she's back to sleeping through or one wake up. It sounds like she's trying to up your supply - adding more formula will maybe allow DP to share nights but it means your supply won't increase so much? I'd get him to give the formula in the middle of the night maybe just to share the load for a week - if he can't without whinging he needs to grow a pair.

Haha Buttwing E stopped sleeping through when she went in her own room 2 1/2 weeks ago. The other night I fell asleep on the floor whilst shushing her! Give it time, and definitely try to give him his own room by the age of 15!!
Goats no suggestions except your boyfriend doesn't smell like dinner so may resettle better for him. I hope things get easier- I'm so impressed you're still BFing after your initial feelings, you're doing a great job.

Yellow - a 3 week growth spurt at 5 months? sounds like Heidi just now with her 2-3 wake ups in the night and more frequent day feeds, glad it's a "thing"

We're 3 weeks exactly into this. Surely my supply would have upped itself hy now? In the past supply stuff has changed within a day or two.

goats do you think it might be teething related ? #clutchingatstraws

Stigz I'm pretty sure my DD is teething now as well as having a cold. Suddenly wingey, red cheeked and gnawing everything. Tried to get some calpol down her but most of it gets dribbled out again.

igotaa my dd is the same just now, she keeps trying to bite my nose & chin, Ashton & parsons teething powders are quite good, i notice a diffrence in her mood when i havnt given her them.

Thanks for that stigz, I'll look out for those. In the middle of house move hell so could do with baby being happy!

Goats not necessarily - this growth spurt for us was a biggy (it happened at 6 months with my son as he was a later mover) as they're preparing for movement and language, especially if you're supplementing it could take her a while to up your supply. Is she doing that kinda furious / busy / industrious feeding they do in a growth spurt? Or is it the lazy, sooking but not really drinking feeds that might suggest comfort feeding? (and possibly teething?)

I expressed 200ml in 10 minutes last night after I'd fed her. I don't think supply is an issue.

Boyfriend fed her a mixture of expressed and formula last night - she took 350ml between 7 and 10. I think perhaps normally she's just snacking because after that she didn't eat until 2. She was awake and yelling due to rivers of snot, but not hungry.

certainly no supply issue there - it takes me about 40 mins to express a meagre 50 ml! Not that I bother very often.

I hope it gets better for you soon goats. I have no idea what the solution is as we're in constant waking hell here too. Dd has come into our bed to feed and sleep the last two nights, which I'm not happy about at all, but it's the only way I can face dealing with her if I've just spent about half an hour settling her only the hour previous.
I do remember dd1 got gradually better from 19/20 weeks (see how the date is stuck in my mind!) But I do doubt that dd2 will be as obliging.

stigz and sazzle - how are solids going? Probably too early to see if there's much of a change on the reflux front?

Also had super leaky boobs between 11 and 2 when she wasn't hungry.

I've got to go to work this afternoon.... zzzz.

Wow that's impressive expressing! I don't do it very often anymore and I seem to get less each time.
Just been to the doctors about E's eczema- poor bugger pulls off her mittens and scratches her head red raw. Any ideas how to keep the mittens on?

green my lo has been teething bad the last couple of days so has been barely touching her milk, didnt bother offering solids monday & tues but tried her with bannana porrige this morning and she demolished it, but i have noticed a diffrence in hiccups etc as she is not taking as much milk, so I'm hoping i can reduce the amount of milk she takes at lunchtime & teatime when solids are established and just give her a 7/8 ounce bottle in the morning and the same before bed. Will begin baby led weaning in 3 weeks when she is 6 months old.