October 2014 // thread 3 // Maybe we'll get some sleep soon.

[MundayCakes85]

Last thread is full so here's a shiny new one

Yup I'm up for the third time tonight, our stretches between feeds are reducing with each day boooooo! Dd is super snotty at night too, propped her Moses basket up a bit but it hasn't made much difference.

I'm up way earlier than normal having not got her to sleep until gone midnight, any then only on me. Boyfriend gave her a bottle at 11, then pushed off to bed leaving me with a screamer. Can hear him snoring right now. Grrr.

I reckon by the state of her frenzied eating that this is start of 6 week growth spurt. Might have to cancel dentist and book club todsy since I think I'll be sofa bound.

I've got a Motorola video monitor too, I sometimes use it if he's in his pram and I grab a shower - it's good.

He's had a feed and a nappy change and is now grunting and squirming loudly (wide awake) while DP does window rattling snores on the other side of me. Joy.

Out of interest, have any bednest users found a mobile that you can fit to it? LO is getting interested in his surroundings so it would be good to have something to distract him during these squirming sessions.

I'm trying to get the baby to sleep while DP crashes about the house like a drunk rhino 'helping'. He's on a roll after taking her out of her crib yesterday night when she was sleeping because she 'looked cute'.

I think belly asked about sterilising? I've kept mine in the fridge and even on the side until I need them but not sure what the recommended thing is?

Pumping and dumping I don't do either, I think there are differing opinions, but I generally just inhale have a wine when I start so that she's done by the time it works its way through. Or, I'll wait until she's finished and have one. I personally would only pump and dump if she's feeding less than 2 hours after the drink... but it's possible I'm verging on borderline alcoholic. kellymom.com/bf/can-i-breastfeed/lifestyle/alcohol/ That being said, my baby does sleep well at night

V has been awake for over 2 hours just put her down now hope I get 2 hours sleep before I have to get up with other kids.

Only need to pump and dump if you are uncomfy in the boobs with heavy drinking. Some wine is totally fine. Pumping won't get the alcohol out of your system and milk, doesn't work like that - it's like waiting for it to leave your blood so an hour per unit.
I pumped and dumper once with DS after a night of cocktails and shots but have fed him after just a couple of glasses of wine. The amount in breast milk is so so tiny. Think thy can't advise parents what is a moderate amount as women read that differently so health literature says don't drink (although various people of told me it's fine)

After our wind issues at 2, R slept til

1. But of a record for us!

I'm starting to wonder if baby will only fall asleep in me? It could be a coincidence that every time I put him in the Moses basket he starts crying

Thanks Rudy re Motorola. It's that or the Baby Ping which hooks up to iPhone/ iPad etc.

Good luck with the pram Pregnant I'd have felt sick when I opened the boot. Let's hope people are kind and handed it in.
E had a couple of green poos before bed last night so trying to just completely empty 1 boob per feed, like block feeding.
She seems better now. I found a white lump/ spot inside her belly button. Any ideas what that's about? Gave it a clean and doesn't seem to hurt her.

Thanks re pumping and dumping, had forgotten I had asked! Any nightlight recommendations? Up screaming til 3 but then slept til 7...!

We didn't have a great night lots if evening feeding and we struggled to put him down. He woke earlier than normal and fed as normal, puked and choked. Bless him it frightened him and is a fair bit! Poor bean
how long does your lo's feed for now? He's still on the boob for at least an hour with all the extra mid feed burping!

I hope you don't mind me asking a question? I know you're all well past the 1 week mark but I'm a bit worried and can see this thread is active:

I think I may have over fed my 7 day old baby. I'm a bit worried now, what are the risks?

This morning she took 4.5oz of expressed Breast milk with a burp in the middle. But was still rooting after that so topped her up with another 2oz of FF. She's now sound asleep. Do you think I over fed her? It's more than double what the book says which is 3oz of FF, it doesn't say whether there's a maximum for Breast milk from a bottle. I just feed her on demand and today that's what she demanded. What's the worst that could happen now? I guess the worst is that she'll just be sick in her crib if over full?

Pip takes half an hour per boob. I don't always offer the second one.

belly all babies are different, the book isn't going to know exactly what your baby wants or needs. She will tell you when she is full

Hi all :) my dd is 6 weeks now, have lurked on here quite a bit but haven't posted since since the earlier antenatal group so hope you don't mind me joining!
I also use a moterola monitor - mine isn't as clear as some I have seen but it does the job! Someone mentioned about routine, we have tried to get her in a night routine from early days (2weeks) and she quickly settled into it. Bath at 7 followed by feed and into the crib. At first she would only go down if already fast asleep in my arms but now will go down a bit sleepy and doze off after half an hour or so. She then wakes 3/4 hourly overnight.
Does anyone do a dream feed? It sounds great as then would get a longer stretch of sleep once I go to bed but she won't take it - any tips?!
bellyrub I'm no expert but I would so that if she's asleep she's satisfied with the feed. As you say the worst thing that would ha open would be that she may be sick (perhaps put her head to the side rather than straight up just in case). I would imagine that she'll be fine though - if bf you wouldn't know how much she'd had!

rudy yes I have a mamas and papas basic mobile which screws onto either end. www.mamasandpapas.com/product-nellie-splash-cot-mobile/7560n5600/type-i/
Funnily enough I just moved it to his bednest this morning as he was contentedly gazing at things. It's been attached and unused to his big cot...

Interesting to hear about routines. I'm a bit reluctant about putting M down early in the evening at the moment as it is his best time, happy and sociable from 5-9pm plus DH races home from work to see him at 6.30pm so would be a shame to put him down so soon. Hopefully by Xmas he will be in an established routine. At the moment he's asleep by 10.30 and the last couple of nights woke at 3 and then 6-7 but I know this can change radically!

R feeds the most from 7 to 8.30 so can't imagine us getting him down before then and am secretly savouring this newborn stage too.

belly worst that will happen is that she's sick. All babies are different and hungry at different times so the books are only a guide. Other times your baby will do what the book says, other times she won't. Think we (and people like gina ford) have to remember babies aren't made from same factory!

I have a question. Ada is five weeks today and in the last week or so she's been having much more awake time- usually most of the morning and then a chunk of the early evening. During this time she seems to cycle from being cheerful and alert to a bit restless and shouty. When she gets like that my default is to offer her a feed. She usually has a small one and then is calm again. I can't work out if this is okay or if it's just me being lazy- as in, it's easier than finding another way of cheering her up/dealing with her being all wiggly-shouty. And if she really isn't hungry she won't take the breast. It's just it means she's having lots of frequent sort feeds for that time. I mean, it is the easiest way, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong, right? Gah. When I just get on with things I'm fine. It's when I try and think that disaster strikes.

Two of my friends are trying routines at 3 and 4 weeks old. I've been letting my baby eat, sleep and play as he feels like it - but now I'm wondering if I shouldn't be trying to get him into a routine too? Surely he's too little?

As for going down at night: he feeds around 6, 9, 12, 3 and he doesn't always sleep between 6-9 or he'll sleep in my arms or on my chest after his 9pm feed (wakes up as soon as I put him in his Moses basket)
Am I doing something wrong?

Tatty my boy is 4 weeks and I'm noticing that too with him, although I don't think I always offer a small feed, I try dummy or moving him about until we can get to his next feed.

Thank you for the reasurrance. Looking forward to returning to the Breast as I think I'd rather not know.

Tatty I used to live in Lesotho, babies there are in the sling with constant access to the breast so they always help themselves to wee snacks. I don't think I ever heard a baby cry as a result. Its our western notion of baby cries for a massive feed as long as possible from the last one because its convenient for us, that's out of sync with how we are designed. I can totally see the logic for the western system but offering a boob isn't lazy its the natural source of comfort and bonding. I've always fed on demand or if grizzly and (horrors!!! ) fed to sleep - I figure its worked wonders for millenna so why fight it!

I have no idea if you're doing anything wrong, but that's pretty much what I'm doing. We don't need a routine at this point. It's not like we've anywhere to be. And we're settling into a bit of a pattern naturally, which seems okay to me. Thoughts of routines make me feel inadequate so I don't think about them.

My hv said not to bother with a routine until 7+ weeks, so I haven't. My sil had my nephews sleeping through the night by 6 weeks - she did Gina Ford. I don't want to do that, but we'll try a proper bedtime routine starting in a few weeks. We've sort of started doing bedtime in a half arsed sort of way, but she's still crying between 6 and 9pm a bit - getting less, but still happening - so not much point.

I had a sad moment about how fast she's growing the other day, wondering if our plan just to have one child is the right thing.