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October 2014 // thread 3 // Maybe we'll get some sleep soon.

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MundayCakes85 · 14/11/2014 09:48

Last thread is full so here's a shiny new one Grin

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YellowWellies · 20/11/2014 23:18

Ninja puker Grin Grin Grin Grin

Happytimes31 · 20/11/2014 23:25

Thanks goats how old is she? In the midst of our nightly crying phase Sad

ExcitedCJ · 21/11/2014 00:04

Helen you are right to feel very strongly about someone suggesting you move when breastfeeding. Especially when that someone is in a position where they really should be supporting you. She would not have suggested a mother that was bottle feeding needed to move. This is illegal according to the breastfeeding equality act. I have a copy stored on my phone in the event I may need to read it to someone!
FB group Breast Friends UK is a great closed & private group that can give advice/support on any breastfeeding topic.

ExcitedCJ · 21/11/2014 00:12

I am sure Yellow has been keeping you advised, however a lot of the 'colic' stuff that you guys are referring to sounds like it could be silent reflux?
My DS had the same kind of symptoms and as my DD had very severe silent reflux when she was a baby I knew what to look for. My DS is on 10mg of Losec a day & I have a totally different baby. Relaxed & calm without the evening madness.
Also if you are breastfeeding it could be hyperlactation, this is also worth looking in to.
Then again, it could just be colic.
HTH. Xx

Me23 · 21/11/2014 01:30

Poor v was screaming all day today also bringing up milk a lot she was so uncomfortable and bar the school rub she didn't nap at all, I'm now convinced it must be reflux we need medication poor thing can't go in like this and I can't cope with constant crying. We have our six week check tomorrow I hope gp prescribes something other than gaviscon. As from what I've read it rarely works

pebble82 · 21/11/2014 01:39

DD has never been sick so I doubt it's reflux for us

Happytimes31 · 21/11/2014 01:39

me sound awful poor you. I think (hope) mine is just reflux as he happily sleeps flat in the day of in buggy cot or in Moses basket slightly raised and the crying at night seems to be quite quickly soothed these days ( hope I haven't jinxed that) so I think it is wind/colic/the poo practising thing that wakes him up.

mrsb87 · 21/11/2014 02:35

happy we swaddled til this week (6 weeks) as it was getting a bit of a battle keeping his arms in so we gave up. He's now in a grobag too and is a lot happier for it!

ExcitedCJ · 21/11/2014 02:47

Me according to my GP the guidelines for infant reflux changed recently & the recommendation is to now prescribe Losec straight away. If your GP doesn't perhaps you can quietly insist? It makes quite the difference if that is what it is.

Sorehead · 21/11/2014 03:49

Think our issues here are wind related too because when he's showing signs of discomfort I can hear his stomach bubbling. Happy to be told otherwise though- DS is my first and I know there are some of you with a lot more experience with these things (and probably with better knowledge of reflux/CMPI than a lot of GPs!)

Hope all having a good night.

Happytimes31 · 21/11/2014 05:54

Thanks mrs 5 weeks here and have had a much better night tonight so hope not swaddling was the reason!

YellowWellies · 21/11/2014 06:23

CJ I've been thinking the same. Trapped wind doesn't tend to result in hours of crying more just acute periods of it and it stops when baby burps or farts. Extended crying can make them take in air too so a baby can sound like wind is the issue when its only a secondary factor.

Pebble if its silent reflux then they don't puke.

Anyone facing extended hard to console crying ought to consider it. Unless you relish spending the next 4 months to a year in an increasingly difficult battle to soothe or distract them for hours on end on an evening. A lady on my last thread was driving 70 miles a night and walking untold miles when baby was 'colicky', a week on Losec (omeprazole) and she had her evenings back and a baby happily asleep from 7pm. Her mother almost sounded cross when baby was cured of 'colic' as "they didn't have reflux in my day". Jonas was a great sleeper after he'd cried himself to exhaustion on an evening but had awful painful reflux so good nighttime sleep doesn't mean it isn't. If there's a family history of 'difficult' babies, colic, eczema, asthma, food intolerances - then even more so you should consider it.

Untreated reflux can lead to long term damage both mental - PND, attachment disorders and physical - increased risk of bowel cancer, ulcerative colitis and allergies (including asthma and eczema). There's a reason our generation have high rates of those conditions!

CJ do you have a link to the advice change recommending Losec? Lil is on ranitidine and doing great (she's just done 5 hours 50!) but Jonas got to the point where only omeprazole would work and it would be great not to have to argue with our surgeries crap GP (the only one who has on the day appointments free!) should the need arise. Smile

ohthegoats · 21/11/2014 08:01

This is quite unusual shouting - normally her shout level I'd just call normal baby frustration, and she's easy soothed or distracted. I think the last few days have been about growth. She just wants to be on me the whole time, so I'm going to sling up and get on with it.

STIGZ · 21/11/2014 08:27

Off out early doors to get baba's hip scan done and found that someone has crashed into my not even one year old carAngry ... Great to start to my morning after a shitty night, my patience is on thin ice today. DP is so so precious about the car so he is bloody livid and on a short fuse as it is because he is tired. Very tense in the stigz household Sad i feel a volcano is about erupt Hmm

fedupofrainydays · 21/11/2014 08:49

Assume they didn't leave a note stigz? That sucks whatever though

YellowWellies · 21/11/2014 09:03

Goats I'm not sure what you mean by "shout" in a baby? Is it grumbling or actual crying? You're her Mum you know best if she is upset. My toddler has a normal shout level - fairly constant. [grin But Lil is either quiet or crying. By extended crying I'm meaning crying / shouting for over 30 minutes.

YellowWellies · 21/11/2014 09:09

Mad dream this morning. I dreamt I bollocked DH for putting Lil to sleep in the bath because it was too deep. Sleeping in the bath was fiiiiiine.... Hmm Grin

ohthegoats · 21/11/2014 09:10

Just got on scales with her - she's put on a pound since this time last week. Considering at last week's '5 week' weigh-in she'd only put on a pound since birth, I'd say thst yep, this week's shouting and eating has been about growth. Turning into a proper little baby now, sort of chunky looking. Cute.

YellowWellies · 21/11/2014 09:30

Wow! Sounds like a growth spurt Smile

mrsb87 · 21/11/2014 09:40

On the weird dream subject I also had a bit of a strange one. After the 'are you dtd' thread on Facebook I dreamt dh and I had decided to give it a go and they'd stitched me up after birth! he couldn't get in! lol. What's even stranger is the fact that I had a C-section so no stitched down there anyway!

tattyblue · 21/11/2014 09:41

My baby shouts- it's not crying, but a loud one off "aaa" noise that seems to be a demand either for attention or food. If I ignore it, or fail to guess right what it is she wants, then she cries.

YellowWellies · 21/11/2014 09:45

Tatty ahhh I call that grumbling! Lil does the same grumbles and cries if untended. Jonas just went from 0 to hysteria so before Lil I've never understood "shout" / grumblinh in the context of a baby.

tattyblue · 21/11/2014 09:53

It very much feels like the sort of noise I want to make when the man is paying attention to the internet instead of me.

In other news, in one cataclysmic nappy change, the infant managed to douse me liberally in three (3) types of bodily fluid. If that's not bonding, I don't know what is.

ohthegoats · 21/11/2014 10:17

I've had two poonami nappies this morning already - I'm glad it happened though, cos it was building up and we're going swimming this morning. I'd put 4 swim nappies in the bag just in case!

Sorehead · 21/11/2014 10:48

yellow- we've only had a couple of days of this so far (two bad evenings and yesterday) but going to keep an eye on things and if it continues will go back to docs. What do I say though? If I say extended periods of crying won't the GP just say colic? The arching back has now disappeared and the GP said the grunting type noises at night were just normal baby noises- the only reason she listened about it being reflux was the arching back. I know when it mentioned the crying to HV on Weds, she said colic. I just want my happy baby back and am willing to try/ do anything to help him. Interestingly, he can be distracted and soothed during his crying periods but it's hard work and only generally short lived.

STIGZ- sorry to hear about your car. Could you ask your neighbours if any of them saw anything? My MiL had the police get in contact after she'd damaged someone's car and driven off (she didn't notice she'd done it apparently, or she would have stopped Hmm)

Hope the hip scan goes ok!

Loving hearing about the strange dreams! I've had a couple which I remember right after waking up to feed DS but forget when getting up in the morning. One was about a lion though (after having a one sided conversation with DS about the lion on his nappy)

goats- have fun swimming